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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-457796</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey is there any way that a boot can be removedand how much will you charge for it i got bbot last night they closed till monday and need my car can you help me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey is there any way that a boot can be removedand how much will you charge for it i got bbot last night they closed till monday and need my car can you help me</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-380563</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know! Since we do not like people parking here too long then let&#039;s making them park even LONGER by putting on a boot in which the owner of the car has to pay a fee to remove it.      That way they can hog up the parking space while making us lose money since other customers could&#039;ve used that spot.

What a genius plan!!  :)  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know! Since we do not like people parking here too long then let&#8217;s making them park even LONGER by putting on a boot in which the owner of the car has to pay a fee to remove it.      That way they can hog up the parking space while making us lose money since other customers could&#8217;ve used that spot.</p>
<p>What a genius plan!!  :)  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Trent</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-371678</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 15:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This article is great, but many commeents assume its a legitimate city government putting on the boot. Many cities, Chicago for example, allow private companies to boot your ccar.

&quot;For example, my son went to a Dunkin Donuts in Chicago, and while they were making his sandwich, he walked across the street, and looked in some store windows. As soon as he “crossed the street” a guy from Global Parking Management, Inc. put a boot in his car. He wanted $115.00 to take the boot off. Really, time stamp from Dunkin Donuts says 9:37 pm. Documentation by the guy putting on the boot said he put it on at 9:38 pm.

&quot;I drove over, called the Chicsgo police, and my wife who is a lawyer. Two cars responded, but they said they “scam’ people this way 10-15 times per day and its legal. They said it was a “civil issue”. My wife concurred, so I had to pay the $115.00 and then if I want to sue in small claims court to get it back.

&quot;It was a total scam. The company puts up video cameras to watch the lot and the guy sitting in Dunkin Donuts had a “Time Synched” audio device around his neck. I paid the $115.00.

&quot;I later found out this copany does this at dozens of lots, and because they post a warning sign , you have to pay the $115.00 and then try to get it back!!!

&quot;I love this post. I think I’ll put a couple of inexpensive tools in the trunks of my threed cars and next time they can watch me take off the boot, and sue me in “small claims court” for the $115.00.

&quot;The police said if I could remove it, but damged it the company could sue for damage to the boot, but it was a civil matter, so I could legally remove the boot.

&quot;God Bless You, Every one for this post!!!&quot;

It&#039;s not a &quot;civil&quot; matter for some private individual to attach anything beyond a pamphlet under your wiper to your car. It is criminal tampering with a motor vehicle, extortion, and unlawful restraint (you couldn&#039;t leave in your car), which is the next thing to kidnapping. The cops lied to you as they don&#039;t want to deal with this crap all day long. 
Go back and swear out a criminal complaint against the person who attached the boot, along with his/her employer. When (s)he is picked up by the police, cuffed and taken to jail, (s)he&#039;ll sing a different tune.
This is assuming the lot was for Dunkin Donuts customers, even if the lot was managed by someone else. If it was for Dunkin Donuts customers, you have a good case for a lawsuit against DD. If the lot was not for DD customers but was a regular pay lot, too bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This article is great, but many commeents assume its a legitimate city government putting on the boot. Many cities, Chicago for example, allow private companies to boot your ccar.</p>
<p>&#8220;For example, my son went to a Dunkin Donuts in Chicago, and while they were making his sandwich, he walked across the street, and looked in some store windows. As soon as he “crossed the street” a guy from Global Parking Management, Inc. put a boot in his car. He wanted $115.00 to take the boot off. Really, time stamp from Dunkin Donuts says 9:37 pm. Documentation by the guy putting on the boot said he put it on at 9:38 pm.</p>
<p>&#8220;I drove over, called the Chicsgo police, and my wife who is a lawyer. Two cars responded, but they said they “scam’ people this way 10-15 times per day and its legal. They said it was a “civil issue”. My wife concurred, so I had to pay the $115.00 and then if I want to sue in small claims court to get it back.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was a total scam. The company puts up video cameras to watch the lot and the guy sitting in Dunkin Donuts had a “Time Synched” audio device around his neck. I paid the $115.00.</p>
<p>&#8220;I later found out this copany does this at dozens of lots, and because they post a warning sign , you have to pay the $115.00 and then try to get it back!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;I love this post. I think I’ll put a couple of inexpensive tools in the trunks of my threed cars and next time they can watch me take off the boot, and sue me in “small claims court” for the $115.00.</p>
<p>&#8220;The police said if I could remove it, but damged it the company could sue for damage to the boot, but it was a civil matter, so I could legally remove the boot.</p>
<p>&#8220;God Bless You, Every one for this post!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a &#8220;civil&#8221; matter for some private individual to attach anything beyond a pamphlet under your wiper to your car. It is criminal tampering with a motor vehicle, extortion, and unlawful restraint (you couldn&#8217;t leave in your car), which is the next thing to kidnapping. The cops lied to you as they don&#8217;t want to deal with this crap all day long.<br />
Go back and swear out a criminal complaint against the person who attached the boot, along with his/her employer. When (s)he is picked up by the police, cuffed and taken to jail, (s)he&#8217;ll sing a different tune.<br />
This is assuming the lot was for Dunkin Donuts customers, even if the lot was managed by someone else. If it was for Dunkin Donuts customers, you have a good case for a lawsuit against DD. If the lot was not for DD customers but was a regular pay lot, too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-160746</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deflate the tire then slide the front cap over the deflated rubber, unhook the back of the boot, throw it on to the side walk and drive away laughing like a maniac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deflate the tire then slide the front cap over the deflated rubber, unhook the back of the boot, throw it on to the side walk and drive away laughing like a maniac.</p>
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		<title>By: BooterLife</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-100238</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HOA&#039;s now booting cars parked on private driveways to raise revenue. Claim tires touched grass. Booters divide Naples Florida Community. See the whole store at wwwnewbridgewaterbaycom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOA&#8217;s now booting cars parked on private driveways to raise revenue. Claim tires touched grass. Booters divide Naples Florida Community. See the whole store at wwwnewbridgewaterbaycom</p>
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		<title>By: Front Hub Assembly</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-82934</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As i work to porn industries, and i run an adult site your article on front hub assembly is quite useful! Keep Going!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As i work to porn industries, and i run an adult site your article on front hub assembly is quite useful! Keep Going!</p>
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		<title>By: Da Champ iz here</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-72650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Da Champ iz here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Parking boots are public property.
The parking-control officers who attach them to your wheels intend for them to stay there until you&#039;ve paid off your fines. Removing the boot without authorization, or damaging it in any way, is a crime.

Nevertheless, in cities like Denver and Boston, where the boot has been a part of life for years, the contraptions occasionally disappear. In some cities, more than 10 percent of the boot stock has vanished or been rendered inoperable.

That came as no surprise to the mechanical experts who examined our boot. The boot, they say, is nowhere near as tough as it looks. Anyone with less than $30 worth of basic hand tools and enough dexterity to screw in a light bulb can probably break the boot&#039;s grip on a car wheel in about ten minutes.

The boot is designed to intimidate, our experts say; its toughest parts are the ones that would be the most obvious targets for boot-busting vandals -- the lock mechanism, for example. With a special tamper-resistant padlock surrounded by a box made of quarter-inch carbon steel plates, the lock will stand up to just about anything short of a low-yield nuclear device. So our bootbusters ignored the lock and looked for other less-obvious places where the boot could be attacked. It took them no time to discover several major weak points in the boot&#039;s protective armor.

Deflating the tire.
If the boot is going to work properly, it must be properly installed, and that&#039;s not an easy process -- especially in the dark, when you have a long night of boot-installing ahead. If the installation is even a bit sloppy (that is, if the jaws that attach the boot to the wheel are a little bit loose), it&#039;s often possible to remove the boot by letting the air out of the tire and simply sliding the whole thing off.

This is by far the simplest strategy. It doesn&#039;t always work -- conscientious installer can prevent it almost every time, and some car wheels don&#039;t leave enough room for the process anyway. But veterans of boot-happy cities have told us they&#039;ve removed dozens of boots this way, quickly, quietly, and easily.

The hubcap plate.
A key element to the boot&#039;s effectiveness is its ability to prevent car-owners from getting access to the lug nuts on the booted wheel. Once the lug nuts are accessible, the wheel can be removed and replaced with a spare tire, and the car can be driven away.

If the boot is properly installed, the plate will be tightly secured over the hubcaps, making it impossible event to imagine loosening the lug nuts. But the plate is one of the more flimsy parts of the boot; it&#039;s attached by a half-inch swivel pin that is spot-welded to the frame. As our boot-busting experts explained, spot welds that hold together two pieces of metal of different thicknesses are inherently weak. There are several such welds on the boot, and this one is especially vulnerable.

With a common battery-powered drill and a 15-cent grinding wheel or &quot;cut-off tool&quot;, one of our experts was able to grind away most of the weld on the pin in about two minutes. With a five-dollar cold chisel and a standard hammer, he did the same job even faster.

Once the weld is broken, a quick blow with a hammer forced the pin out, releasing the plate from the boot frame and making it easy to change the tire and drive away, leaving the old, boot-laden tire behind (or safely stowed in the trunk as a souvenir).

The jaw-to-frame pins.
The main frame of the boot -- the &quot;arm&quot; -- fit into a pair of metal pins on the wheel-clamp, or &quot;jaw&quot;. The pins are a central element of the boot&#039;s structure. They&#039;re also one of its weakest links.

The pins are only about an inch long. when the boot is installed, they appear to be connected to each other through some sort of thick, central rod. In fact, they&#039;re just stuck into holes drilled in the frame, and spot-welded at the bottom.

Even when the boot is assembled, there&#039;s plenty of free play between the arm and the pins. A few strong, sharp blows with a hammer on the top of the pins quickly breaks them free and makes them easy to remove. With those pins gone, the boot comes apart immediately.

The welds holding the lock-box to the frame. For all the effort that the bootmakers put into developing an impregnable locking mechanism, it&#039;s amazing how loosely the lock-box is attached to the rest of the boot. Four flimsy spot-welds hold the entire padlock-and-cover-plate assembly to the main boot frame. It took an expert just a few seconds to chip away one of the welds with a chisel and hammer; when one of our spastic, incompetent, weak-wristed editors tried it on a second weld a few days later, it took less than a minute.

Once the lock-box is liberated from the frame, the entire boot can be dismantled and removed quickly with a ratchet and standard (16-inch) spark-plug socket.

The arm itself.
If all else fails, our experts discovered that they could actually cut through the tough-looking steel of the main arm with a battery-powered drill and a cut-off tool. forget the oxyacetylene torches and the nitric acid -- the boot arm cuts like butter with a cheap hobbyist&#039;s tool. By our calculations, a standard drill-and-cut-off tool set-up can cut through the main arm in less than ten minutes.

The padlock keys.
When the parking-control officers come to remove a boot, the first thing they have to do is unlock the padlock. Since the city is buying about 100 of the monsters, it seems highly unlikely that every boot will have a different key. In other cities, like Denver, a single master key unlocks them all.

That means, of course, that an anarchist thug with a penchant for trouble-making (or a wily hustler with an eye for a quick profit) could easily dismantle and remove the boot from some poor innocent scofflaw&#039;s illegally parked car, take the thing home, bust the lock off and pay a less-than-scrupulous locksmith to make up a new key -- a key that would instantly unlock every boot in the city.

Of course, the city can always change all the padlocks on a regular basis (although they don&#039;t come cheap). But if we know this city, the pirates will soon be making and selling the keys faster than the cops can replace the locks, forcing the taxpayers to pour ever-increasing sums of money into a parking-law-enforcement mechanism that is neither appropriate nor effective for San Francisco.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parking boots are public property.<br />
The parking-control officers who attach them to your wheels intend for them to stay there until you&#8217;ve paid off your fines. Removing the boot without authorization, or damaging it in any way, is a crime.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, in cities like Denver and Boston, where the boot has been a part of life for years, the contraptions occasionally disappear. In some cities, more than 10 percent of the boot stock has vanished or been rendered inoperable.</p>
<p>That came as no surprise to the mechanical experts who examined our boot. The boot, they say, is nowhere near as tough as it looks. Anyone with less than $30 worth of basic hand tools and enough dexterity to screw in a light bulb can probably break the boot&#8217;s grip on a car wheel in about ten minutes.</p>
<p>The boot is designed to intimidate, our experts say; its toughest parts are the ones that would be the most obvious targets for boot-busting vandals &#8212; the lock mechanism, for example. With a special tamper-resistant padlock surrounded by a box made of quarter-inch carbon steel plates, the lock will stand up to just about anything short of a low-yield nuclear device. So our bootbusters ignored the lock and looked for other less-obvious places where the boot could be attacked. It took them no time to discover several major weak points in the boot&#8217;s protective armor.</p>
<p>Deflating the tire.<br />
If the boot is going to work properly, it must be properly installed, and that&#8217;s not an easy process &#8212; especially in the dark, when you have a long night of boot-installing ahead. If the installation is even a bit sloppy (that is, if the jaws that attach the boot to the wheel are a little bit loose), it&#8217;s often possible to remove the boot by letting the air out of the tire and simply sliding the whole thing off.</p>
<p>This is by far the simplest strategy. It doesn&#8217;t always work &#8212; conscientious installer can prevent it almost every time, and some car wheels don&#8217;t leave enough room for the process anyway. But veterans of boot-happy cities have told us they&#8217;ve removed dozens of boots this way, quickly, quietly, and easily.</p>
<p>The hubcap plate.<br />
A key element to the boot&#8217;s effectiveness is its ability to prevent car-owners from getting access to the lug nuts on the booted wheel. Once the lug nuts are accessible, the wheel can be removed and replaced with a spare tire, and the car can be driven away.</p>
<p>If the boot is properly installed, the plate will be tightly secured over the hubcaps, making it impossible event to imagine loosening the lug nuts. But the plate is one of the more flimsy parts of the boot; it&#8217;s attached by a half-inch swivel pin that is spot-welded to the frame. As our boot-busting experts explained, spot welds that hold together two pieces of metal of different thicknesses are inherently weak. There are several such welds on the boot, and this one is especially vulnerable.</p>
<p>With a common battery-powered drill and a 15-cent grinding wheel or &#8220;cut-off tool&#8221;, one of our experts was able to grind away most of the weld on the pin in about two minutes. With a five-dollar cold chisel and a standard hammer, he did the same job even faster.</p>
<p>Once the weld is broken, a quick blow with a hammer forced the pin out, releasing the plate from the boot frame and making it easy to change the tire and drive away, leaving the old, boot-laden tire behind (or safely stowed in the trunk as a souvenir).</p>
<p>The jaw-to-frame pins.<br />
The main frame of the boot &#8212; the &#8220;arm&#8221; &#8212; fit into a pair of metal pins on the wheel-clamp, or &#8220;jaw&#8221;. The pins are a central element of the boot&#8217;s structure. They&#8217;re also one of its weakest links.</p>
<p>The pins are only about an inch long. when the boot is installed, they appear to be connected to each other through some sort of thick, central rod. In fact, they&#8217;re just stuck into holes drilled in the frame, and spot-welded at the bottom.</p>
<p>Even when the boot is assembled, there&#8217;s plenty of free play between the arm and the pins. A few strong, sharp blows with a hammer on the top of the pins quickly breaks them free and makes them easy to remove. With those pins gone, the boot comes apart immediately.</p>
<p>The welds holding the lock-box to the frame. For all the effort that the bootmakers put into developing an impregnable locking mechanism, it&#8217;s amazing how loosely the lock-box is attached to the rest of the boot. Four flimsy spot-welds hold the entire padlock-and-cover-plate assembly to the main boot frame. It took an expert just a few seconds to chip away one of the welds with a chisel and hammer; when one of our spastic, incompetent, weak-wristed editors tried it on a second weld a few days later, it took less than a minute.</p>
<p>Once the lock-box is liberated from the frame, the entire boot can be dismantled and removed quickly with a ratchet and standard (16-inch) spark-plug socket.</p>
<p>The arm itself.<br />
If all else fails, our experts discovered that they could actually cut through the tough-looking steel of the main arm with a battery-powered drill and a cut-off tool. forget the oxyacetylene torches and the nitric acid &#8212; the boot arm cuts like butter with a cheap hobbyist&#8217;s tool. By our calculations, a standard drill-and-cut-off tool set-up can cut through the main arm in less than ten minutes.</p>
<p>The padlock keys.<br />
When the parking-control officers come to remove a boot, the first thing they have to do is unlock the padlock. Since the city is buying about 100 of the monsters, it seems highly unlikely that every boot will have a different key. In other cities, like Denver, a single master key unlocks them all.</p>
<p>That means, of course, that an anarchist thug with a penchant for trouble-making (or a wily hustler with an eye for a quick profit) could easily dismantle and remove the boot from some poor innocent scofflaw&#8217;s illegally parked car, take the thing home, bust the lock off and pay a less-than-scrupulous locksmith to make up a new key &#8212; a key that would instantly unlock every boot in the city.</p>
<p>Of course, the city can always change all the padlocks on a regular basis (although they don&#8217;t come cheap). But if we know this city, the pirates will soon be making and selling the keys faster than the cops can replace the locks, forcing the taxpayers to pour ever-increasing sums of money into a parking-law-enforcement mechanism that is neither appropriate nor effective for San Francisco.</p>
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		<title>By: Ihavenoname</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-54349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ihavenoname]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thermite might kill your car.

Cold chisel and a hammer or an abrasive cut off wheel would be the way to go.

First I would try to take it off in a non-destructive manner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thermite might kill your car.</p>
<p>Cold chisel and a hammer or an abrasive cut off wheel would be the way to go.</p>
<p>First I would try to take it off in a non-destructive manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-53839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got a boot a week ago. We were looking at it and start to think that there had to be a place to buy a key for it. I saw the lock and it looks like a one fits all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a boot a week ago. We were looking at it and start to think that there had to be a place to buy a key for it. I saw the lock and it looks like a one fits all.</p>
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		<title>By: Black_Angel</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-42154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Black_Angel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have several welder friends, and being one myself, 
1. I would cut the darn thing off with an oxy torch aka hot wrench.
2. Put thermite on it and light it.
3. use the air chisel that is on my truck.
4. DON&#039;t Park ILLEGALY
5. Sledge Hammer.
6. Pry Bar
7. if all else fails I would call my lawyer and have a chat with the people at the parking enforcement office if and only if I knew that I was parked legally]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have several welder friends, and being one myself,<br />
1. I would cut the darn thing off with an oxy torch aka hot wrench.<br />
2. Put thermite on it and light it.<br />
3. use the air chisel that is on my truck.<br />
4. DON&#8217;t Park ILLEGALY<br />
5. Sledge Hammer.<br />
6. Pry Bar<br />
7. if all else fails I would call my lawyer and have a chat with the people at the parking enforcement office if and only if I knew that I was parked legally</p>
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		<title>By: Milton Austin</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-3819</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Milton Austin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 04:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article is great, but many commeents assume its a legitimate city government putting on the boot.  Many cities, Chicago for example, allow private companies to boot your ccar.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For example, my son went to a Dunkin Donuts in Chicago, and while they were making his sandwich, he walked across the street, and looked in some store windows. As soon as he &quot;crossed the street&quot; a guy from Global Parking Management, Inc. put a boot in his car. He wanted $115.00 to take the boot off. Really, time stamp from Dunkin Donuts says 9:37 pm. Documentation by the guy putting on the boot said he put it on at 9:38 pm.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I drove over, called the Chicsgo police, and my wife who is a lawyer. Two cars responded, but they said they &quot;scam&#039; people this way 10-15 times per day and its legal. They said it was a &quot;civil issue&quot;. My wife concurred, so I had to pay the $115.00 and then if I want to sue in small claims court to get it back.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It was a total scam. The company puts up video cameras to watch the lot and the guy sitting in Dunkin Donuts had a &quot;Time Synched&quot; audio device around his neck. I paid the $115.00.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I later found out this copany does this at dozens of lots, and because they post a warning sign , you have to pay the $115.00 and then try to get it back!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I love this post. I think I&#039;ll put a couple of inexpensive tools in the trunks of my threed cars and next time they can watch me take off the boot, and sue me in &quot;small claims court&quot; for the $115.00.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The police said if I could remove it, but damged it the company could sue for damage to the boot, but it was a civil matter, so I could legally remove the boot.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is a detailed boot removal article at:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/www/Info/boot.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/www/Info/boot.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;God Bless You, Every one for this post!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is great, but many commeents assume its a legitimate city government putting on the boot.  Many cities, Chicago for example, allow private companies to boot your ccar.</p>
<p>For example, my son went to a Dunkin Donuts in Chicago, and while they were making his sandwich, he walked across the street, and looked in some store windows. As soon as he &#8220;crossed the street&#8221; a guy from Global Parking Management, Inc. put a boot in his car. He wanted $115.00 to take the boot off. Really, time stamp from Dunkin Donuts says 9:37 pm. Documentation by the guy putting on the boot said he put it on at 9:38 pm.</p>
<p>I drove over, called the Chicsgo police, and my wife who is a lawyer. Two cars responded, but they said they &#8220;scam&#8217; people this way 10-15 times per day and its legal. They said it was a &#8220;civil issue&#8221;. My wife concurred, so I had to pay the $115.00 and then if I want to sue in small claims court to get it back.</p>
<p>It was a total scam. The company puts up video cameras to watch the lot and the guy sitting in Dunkin Donuts had a &#8220;Time Synched&#8221; audio device around his neck. I paid the $115.00.</p>
<p>I later found out this copany does this at dozens of lots, and because they post a warning sign , you have to pay the $115.00 and then try to get it back!!!</p>
<p>I love this post. I think I&#8217;ll put a couple of inexpensive tools in the trunks of my threed cars and next time they can watch me take off the boot, and sue me in &#8220;small claims court&#8221; for the $115.00.</p>
<p>The police said if I could remove it, but damged it the company could sue for damage to the boot, but it was a civil matter, so I could legally remove the boot.</p>
<p>There is a detailed boot removal article at:</p>
<p><a href="http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/www/Info/boot.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/www/Info/boot.html</a></p>
<p>God Bless You, Every one for this post!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hahz</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-3818</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hahz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[over at www.atlnightspots.com they were talking about this 2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>over at <a href="http://www.atlnightspots.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.atlnightspots.com</a> they were talking about this 2.</p>
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		<title>By: baalpeteor</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-3817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baalpeteor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wtf? all that? all he had to do is pick the damn lock if I known they use just weak ass master locks i&#039;d be charging people to remove them. I can open those within seconds 2 ways.&lt;br&gt;1.) bump key ( i have the pressure down that I get it first tap)&lt;br&gt;2.) lock pick (I have this down to where i know exactly how far to push the pick i use in and tap it up once and turn)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i guess i got them down b/c i have about 50 or more of those school black turn dial master locks (for lockers) here taht i cracked all day everyday in the past, and i have 3 of the ones on his boot.. and other types]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wtf? all that? all he had to do is pick the damn lock if I known they use just weak ass master locks i&#8217;d be charging people to remove them. I can open those within seconds 2 ways.<br />1.) bump key ( i have the pressure down that I get it first tap)<br />2.) lock pick (I have this down to where i know exactly how far to push the pick i use in and tap it up once and turn)</p>
<p>i guess i got them down b/c i have about 50 or more of those school black turn dial master locks (for lockers) here taht i cracked all day everyday in the past, and i have 3 of the ones on his boot.. and other types</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-3816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If you want an amusing chemical solution I would suggest thermite ;) And no, I&#039;m not going to tell you how to make it.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thermite: 1 part powdered aluminium, one part magnetite, measure by weight, use a magnesium ribbon (or a sparkler) to ignite.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;ll melt the boot right off, probably will damage the car too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you want an amusing chemical solution I would suggest thermite ;) And no, I&#8217;m not going to tell you how to make it.&#8221; </p>
<p>Thermite: 1 part powdered aluminium, one part magnetite, measure by weight, use a magnesium ribbon (or a sparkler) to ignite.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;ll melt the boot right off, probably will damage the car too.</p>
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		<title>By: anna nomitee</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/02/24/hacking-a-car-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-3761</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anna nomitee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[simply have the clamper come to remove the clamp or &#039;boot&#039; as you yanks call it, give him the cash at which point he&#039;ll have to squat down to unlock it, a firm blow to the back of his neck will knock him out, finnish his job then remove your cash and his note book containg your cars details from his pocket, crude but effective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simply have the clamper come to remove the clamp or &#8216;boot&#8217; as you yanks call it, give him the cash at which point he&#8217;ll have to squat down to unlock it, a firm blow to the back of his neck will knock him out, finnish his job then remove your cash and his note book containg your cars details from his pocket, crude but effective.</p>
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