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		<title>By: Emanuel Kriegel</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-121159</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emanuel Kriegel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coming across this site, I was pleased by the depth of info plenty of people would discover it extremely to be helpful also, I will be spreading the word. Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming across this site, I was pleased by the depth of info plenty of people would discover it extremely to be helpful also, I will be spreading the word. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Hipolito M. Wiseman</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-112406</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hipolito M. Wiseman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the braun electric toothbrush]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the braun electric toothbrush</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-5915</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool idea, wonder if it works.  I&#039;ve heard of making lock picks out of an electric toothbrush, but not this.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lockpickguide.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.lockpickguide.com&lt;/a&gt; is a good beginner&#039;s lock picking guide, for those of you who are not part of the cult yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool idea, wonder if it works.  I&#8217;ve heard of making lock picks out of an electric toothbrush, but not this.  <a href="http://www.lockpickguide.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lockpickguide.com</a> is a good beginner&#8217;s lock picking guide, for those of you who are not part of the cult yet.</p>
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		<title>By: al Hasa Musa</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-5886</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[al Hasa Musa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Want to buy hard drive in a large quantity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to buy hard drive in a large quantity.<br />
Send us price list as to enable us forward you our order quantity.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Al Hasan Musa/Director<br />
H-MUSA &#038; FILS<br />
140BLVD DU 13 JANVIER,BP1210<br />
TEL:+228 944-99-08<br />
FAX/+228 944-99-08<br />
LOME TOGO</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 03:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh, its kinda funny, you could make it from anything. But this is odd. I like the style though, shake the lock until all the pins fall into place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, its kinda funny, you could make it from anything. But this is odd. I like the style though, shake the lock until all the pins fall into place.</p>
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		<title>By: flex runess</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-5888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flex runess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 17:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have the motor, from a harrdrive, but there a 4 pins.

wich one should have current??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the motor, from a harrdrive, but there a 4 pins.</p>
<p>wich one should have current??</p>
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		<title>By: themuffinking</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-5889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[themuffinking]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 01:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This works with some cell phones set to vibrate. Just tape a screwdriver to the side, and call yourself repeatedly. Works best with the hulking motorola cell phones - those thing could knock your heart out of rhythm if kept in a shirt pocket.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This works with some cell phones set to vibrate. Just tape a screwdriver to the side, and call yourself repeatedly. Works best with the hulking motorola cell phones &#8211; those thing could knock your heart out of rhythm if kept in a shirt pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: cde</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cde]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 00:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like I said before, locksmith industry believes in Security thru Obscurity. Basicly, if noone knows about it, its safe. Basic idea behind stuff like the hide-a-key rock and placing the key in a plant pot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity

Reveling any obscure secret or pointing out a overlooked inherit design flaw leads to being ostracized.
http://www.crypto.com/papers/kiss.html
http://www.crypto.com/papers/flattery.html

//i hope this thread doesn&#039;t lead to a rash of break-ins. i&#039;d rather hear about a boom in the locksmith industry leading to better security overall.//
Only way to make them enhance products is thru a breaking-in boom. There&#039;s no other incentive to make better common locks, since the current one&#039;s seem so secure. Unfortunate, but that&#039;s reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said before, locksmith industry believes in Security thru Obscurity. Basicly, if noone knows about it, its safe. Basic idea behind stuff like the hide-a-key rock and placing the key in a plant pot.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity</a></p>
<p>Reveling any obscure secret or pointing out a overlooked inherit design flaw leads to being ostracized.<br />
<a href="http://www.crypto.com/papers/kiss.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.crypto.com/papers/kiss.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.crypto.com/papers/flattery.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.crypto.com/papers/flattery.html</a></p>
<p>//i hope this thread doesn&#8217;t lead to a rash of break-ins. i&#8217;d rather hear about a boom in the locksmith industry leading to better security overall.//<br />
Only way to make them enhance products is thru a breaking-in boom. There&#8217;s no other incentive to make better common locks, since the current one&#8217;s seem so secure. Unfortunate, but that&#8217;s reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Bong Bong Gad</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-5890</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bong Bong Gad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 05:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[can we get an automatic denial on all comments that amount to &quot;i saw this long ago because i&#039;m so cool, and this is the crappy version of it anyways&quot;, PLEASE?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can we get an automatic denial on all comments that amount to &#8220;i saw this long ago because i&#8217;m so cool, and this is the crappy version of it anyways&#8221;, PLEASE?</p>
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		<title>By: Jib Jab</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-5892</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jib Jab]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 04:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not amazing if you ask me.  The better tool is the 110v powered engraver with a pick attached.  Not to mention the lock that he is using (model 700) can be &#039;picked&#039; with a paper clip if you know where to twist.  Nice project though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not amazing if you ask me.  The better tool is the 110v powered engraver with a pick attached.  Not to mention the lock that he is using (model 700) can be &#8216;picked&#8217; with a paper clip if you know where to twist.  Nice project though.</p>
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		<title>By: Bong Bong Gad</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-5893</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bong Bong Gad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 02:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[here&#039;s a decent article about it

http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/138/48/

i hope this thread doesn&#039;t lead to a rash of break-ins. i&#039;d rather hear about a boom in the locksmith industry leading to better security overall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s a decent article about it</p>
<p><a href="http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/138/48/" rel="nofollow">http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/138/48/</a></p>
<p>i hope this thread doesn&#8217;t lead to a rash of break-ins. i&#8217;d rather hear about a boom in the locksmith industry leading to better security overall.</p>
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		<title>By: Bong Bong Gad</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-5894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bong Bong Gad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 02:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[considering the action that has to happen inside, the more vigorous the vibration the more likely it will work.

you have two tiny pieces of metal butted up against each other held in place by a spring. you have to hit the bottom piece hard enough to throw the top piece up far enough to clear the shear line. i don&#039;t have any experience picking locks so i&#039;m not entirely sure how well &quot;binding&quot; individual pins works, so to make this work simple constant torsion on the barrel might not be enough. you might have to keep jiggling the entire lock until ALL the upper pins move out of the way.

could take a while. i&#039;m guessing these things can take a few minutes to use, and probably make a lot of noise. not exactly Sam Fisher gear, but he picks locks manually. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>considering the action that has to happen inside, the more vigorous the vibration the more likely it will work.</p>
<p>you have two tiny pieces of metal butted up against each other held in place by a spring. you have to hit the bottom piece hard enough to throw the top piece up far enough to clear the shear line. i don&#8217;t have any experience picking locks so i&#8217;m not entirely sure how well &#8220;binding&#8221; individual pins works, so to make this work simple constant torsion on the barrel might not be enough. you might have to keep jiggling the entire lock until ALL the upper pins move out of the way.</p>
<p>could take a while. i&#8217;m guessing these things can take a few minutes to use, and probably make a lot of noise. not exactly Sam Fisher gear, but he picks locks manually. :)</p>
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		<title>By: sammy</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-5895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sammy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone tried those vibrtating razor handles for this?  I don&#039;t know if they provide enough vibration, but they do run off a AAA battery and  are compact and could probaly be disguised as a pen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone tried those vibrtating razor handles for this?  I don&#8217;t know if they provide enough vibration, but they do run off a AAA battery and  are compact and could probaly be disguised as a pen.</p>
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		<title>By: cde</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cde]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 16:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, since the lockpicking community believes in security thru obscurity, I have no doubt of why someone might have seen this a while ago.

And using a electric toothbrush wouldnt be a bad idea, but you need to buy the 10 dollar and up ones. The Dollar store ones are crap. All they are good for is a cheap source of standard hobbyist 12v motors, the same kind they sell at ratshack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since the lockpicking community believes in security thru obscurity, I have no doubt of why someone might have seen this a while ago.</p>
<p>And using a electric toothbrush wouldnt be a bad idea, but you need to buy the 10 dollar and up ones. The Dollar store ones are crap. All they are good for is a cheap source of standard hobbyist 12v motors, the same kind they sell at ratshack.</p>
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		<title>By: Machiavel</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/04/29/hard-drive-and-mouse-lockpick/comment-page-1/#comment-5897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Machiavel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW THIS IS NOT MY HACK!!!
YOu putted my copyrights on it but THIS IS NOT mine... Anyways, I am currently trying this one out but remember all credits goes to this community ... not me so don,t send me emails saying I am a lammer, I just wanted to sho this one to you... not steal the credits...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW THIS IS NOT MY HACK!!!<br />
YOu putted my copyrights on it but THIS IS NOT mine&#8230; Anyways, I am currently trying this one out but remember all credits goes to this community &#8230; not me so don,t send me emails saying I am a lammer, I just wanted to sho this one to you&#8230; not steal the credits&#8230;</p>
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