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	<title>Comments on: Power Over Ethernet</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-78801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,

What is your patent and does it only apply to P802.3af?  If so please publish the patent number so we can avoid it.  

Personally I feel that standards that include proprietary patents are an obscene perversion of capitalism and should be avoided like the plague.

Tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>What is your patent and does it only apply to P802.3af?  If so please publish the patent number so we can avoid it.  </p>
<p>Personally I feel that standards that include proprietary patents are an obscene perversion of capitalism and should be avoided like the plague.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Computer power cords</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6651</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Computer power cords]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This looks pretty complicated to me, I think I need technical assistance to handle this. Your information is  very helpful for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks pretty complicated to me, I think I need technical assistance to handle this. Your information is  very helpful for me.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6641</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have built my own using this as well as http://www.wireless.org.au/~jhecker/poe/ as references. It&#039;s been working great for the last 6 months or so. I use it for my print server, a WAP and an ethernet hub.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have built my own using this as well as <a href="http://www.wireless.org.au/~jhecker/poe/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wireless.org.au/~jhecker/poe/</a> as references. It&#8217;s been working great for the last 6 months or so. I use it for my print server, a WAP and an ethernet hub.</p>
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		<title>By: barbobot</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[barbobot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 11:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh shit sorry for putting this in tips guys my fault i must of missed it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh shit sorry for putting this in tips guys my fault i must of missed it</p>
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		<title>By: Greenflame</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greenflame]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 10:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can get Power off of pretty mutch any
Serial Port that comes Off the Mainboard
BUS.I have a MSDOS Controlled AM/FM TV
Broadcaster that only uses the Power off
of a old 8pin Serial Interface.You can
also get some off of the System Speaker
as I once Demonstrated with a Crystoform
LCD a while back, it&#039;s just in Pulsating
form cause it&#039;s converting Bit Pipeline
Data to Hz.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get Power off of pretty mutch any<br />
Serial Port that comes Off the Mainboard<br />
BUS.I have a MSDOS Controlled AM/FM TV<br />
Broadcaster that only uses the Power off<br />
of a old 8pin Serial Interface.You can<br />
also get some off of the System Speaker<br />
as I once Demonstrated with a Crystoform<br />
LCD a while back, it&#8217;s just in Pulsating<br />
form cause it&#8217;s converting Bit Pipeline<br />
Data to Hz.</p>
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		<title>By: kYLE</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6638</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kYLE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 09:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[reply to #2: nice, I just checked dict.org and realized that the standard definition of hack isn&#039;t in the dictionary. A hack is a nonstandard is a solution to a problem that may or may not exist dervied from exploration of the surrounding topic (from hacking)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reply to #2: nice, I just checked dict.org and realized that the standard definition of hack isn&#8217;t in the dictionary. A hack is a nonstandard is a solution to a problem that may or may not exist dervied from exploration of the surrounding topic (from hacking)</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Hockersmith</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6645</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hal Hockersmith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 02:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it seems to me that all this is not &quot;Power-over-Ethernet&quot; as in the specification but realy a simple &quot;extension cord-over-ethernet&quot; if you read the article they are not advocating that you power up all of the lines in your house with pseudo PoE but just allow yourself to put a Access Point or switch somewhere where power is not redily avalible or would be to diffcult to get to it.

Use it for what it is: an __Extension cord__. That is what the big boys are doing with their APs. If you are trying to power a computer http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4494899.stm  from anywhere then you better hit the search engines up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems to me that all this is not &#8220;Power-over-Ethernet&#8221; as in the specification but realy a simple &#8220;extension cord-over-ethernet&#8221; if you read the article they are not advocating that you power up all of the lines in your house with pseudo PoE but just allow yourself to put a Access Point or switch somewhere where power is not redily avalible or would be to diffcult to get to it.</p>
<p>Use it for what it is: an __Extension cord__. That is what the big boys are doing with their APs. If you are trying to power a computer <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4494899.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4494899.stm</a>  from anywhere then you better hit the search engines up.</p>
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		<title>By: plex</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6644</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[plex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 00:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Note that simply energizing the unused pairs in a typical Cat5 cable is -NOT- &quot;PoE&quot; and doing so risks inadvertent damage to devices corrected wrong.&quot;

Actually I think that would be considered PoE, even if it&#039;s not the traditional form.  And yes, LOTS of things on this site will help you to inadvertently damage all kinds of devices, a little know-how is obvious before attempting such things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Note that simply energizing the unused pairs in a typical Cat5 cable is -NOT- &#8220;PoE&#8221; and doing so risks inadvertent damage to devices corrected wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually I think that would be considered PoE, even if it&#8217;s not the traditional form.  And yes, LOTS of things on this site will help you to inadvertently damage all kinds of devices, a little know-how is obvious before attempting such things.</p>
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		<title>By: tj</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6643</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 00:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Besides the lack of a regulator, I don&#039;t see how this differs from &quot;real&quot; poe in any significant way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides the lack of a regulator, I don&#8217;t see how this differs from &#8220;real&#8221; poe in any significant way.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve jackson</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve jackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 23:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PoE is standardized under IEEE P802.3af (Clause 33)

Note that simply energizing the unused pairs in a typical Cat5 cable is -NOT- &quot;PoE&quot; and doing so risks inadvertent damage to devices corrected wrong.

As one of the people who contributed to the spec, and as a person holding a related US Patent, I urge those interested in this spec (and the new high-power version coming out) to do appropriate Googling to get informed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PoE is standardized under IEEE P802.3af (Clause 33)</p>
<p>Note that simply energizing the unused pairs in a typical Cat5 cable is -NOT- &#8220;PoE&#8221; and doing so risks inadvertent damage to devices corrected wrong.</p>
<p>As one of the people who contributed to the spec, and as a person holding a related US Patent, I urge those interested in this spec (and the new high-power version coming out) to do appropriate Googling to get informed.</p>
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		<title>By: carpespasm</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6648</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carpespasm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 18:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is a very nice guide to making your own POE setup. even though POE is a pretty standard thing to do, making your own setup w/o the access point being originally made to use it is definitly a hack. nice one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a very nice guide to making your own POE setup. even though POE is a pretty standard thing to do, making your own setup w/o the access point being originally made to use it is definitly a hack. nice one.</p>
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		<title>By: mek2600</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mek2600]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 18:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we all know dictionary.com is the formost leader in technology info.

great article.  i use these a lot at work and the thought of making my own for various purposes sounds cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we all know dictionary.com is the formost leader in technology info.</p>
<p>great article.  i use these a lot at work and the thought of making my own for various purposes sounds cool.</p>
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		<title>By: weaszel</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[weaszel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 17:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[spyingwind: wow, that&#039;s neat. where ever did you learn how to do that? i&#039;ve got one too.

shut up:

1. v. tr.
to cause (a person) to stop talking

2. v. intr.
to cease writing or speaking

now, wasn&#039;t that fun fun? btw, see defintion number two.

if you don&#039;t like the hacks, then go away. just stop complaining about them; it&#039;s not like anyone is forcing you to read this page.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spyingwind: wow, that&#8217;s neat. where ever did you learn how to do that? i&#8217;ve got one too.</p>
<p>shut up:</p>
<p>1. v. tr.<br />
to cause (a person) to stop talking</p>
<p>2. v. intr.<br />
to cease writing or speaking</p>
<p>now, wasn&#8217;t that fun fun? btw, see defintion number two.</p>
<p>if you don&#8217;t like the hacks, then go away. just stop complaining about them; it&#8217;s not like anyone is forcing you to read this page.</p>
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		<title>By: Spyingwind</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6649</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spyingwind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 17:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hm...
Well if i ever need a 250 ft power cord I know what to do now.

Oh BTW, here is the definition of the word Hack from dictionary.com:

Hack:
v. tr.
         1. Informal. To alter (a computer program): hacked her text editor to read HTML.
         2. To gain access to (a computer file or network) illegally or without authorization: hacked the firm&#039;s personnel database.

v. intr.

   1. Informal.
         1. To write or refine computer programs skillfully.
         2. To use one&#039;s skill in computer programming to gain illegal or unauthorized access to a file or network: hacked into the company&#039;s intranet.
EOF]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hm&#8230;<br />
Well if i ever need a 250 ft power cord I know what to do now.</p>
<p>Oh BTW, here is the definition of the word Hack from dictionary.com:</p>
<p>Hack:<br />
v. tr.<br />
         1. Informal. To alter (a computer program): hacked her text editor to read HTML.<br />
         2. To gain access to (a computer file or network) illegally or without authorization: hacked the firm&#8217;s personnel database.</p>
<p>v. intr.</p>
<p>   1. Informal.<br />
         1. To write or refine computer programs skillfully.<br />
         2. To use one&#8217;s skill in computer programming to gain illegal or unauthorized access to a file or network: hacked into the company&#8217;s intranet.<br />
EOF</p>
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		<title>By: niptacular</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/05/21/power-over-ethernet/comment-page-1/#comment-6650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[niptacular]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 16:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mmmmm.... ghetto.
now how power through a ps/2? jk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmmm&#8230;. ghetto.<br />
now how power through a ps/2? jk.</p>
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