CVS Camcorder download alpha

posted Aug 3rd 2005 9:30am by
filed under: portable video hacks

cvs camcorder

A few people sent this in, but credit goes to [chris tt] for providing all the necessary links. Here is the process for using the camera with windows. First you need to build a USB cable [pdf]. Next, plug in the camera and create an inf file using libUSB. Finally, grab the OPS program and start extracting the video. Here is the thread announcing the release. Congratulations to BillW, morcheeba, daBass and anyone else who helped contribute to the project.

UPDATE: MAKE:Blog has a chronology of how this latest development happened.



74 Responses to CVS Camcorder download alpha

  • opensource101 says:

    I guess people can stop complaining about not having the cvs hack posted.

  • nik says:

    dude sweet me and my friend have a cvs near us and they sell usb stuff and that sweeeet

  • Xaos says:

    Whoa, thats a crazy hack. Ive never attempted anything on this scale before, as in unsodering wires and sodering new ones back in and all that, but gotta start somewhere right? Anyone have any advice on equipment to use or anything like that? Also I saw on a site something about ‘shorting’ USB pins in a cable…exactly how is that accomplished? Is that the same thing as unsodering or something different? Yes I know, questions questions, but we’re not all people with electricians degrees so any help is appreciated :)

  • tomthemacman says:

    Any way of dumping the videos using os x? i really want to use one of these for a helmet-cam in my films

  • zoe says:

    is the fron picture missing for others? awesome project regardless.

    shorting means connecting by a wire, as in soldering together.

  • kolwon says:

    looks like i’ll be picking up one of these tomorrow at work :) cough*30% discount**cough

  • papaDoc says:

    Do you know if the camcorder is available in Canada ?

  • carpespasm says:

    SWEETNESS, already got mine dumped, it could use a better description of how to get it going once you get the cable made.

    1 you need to make a libusb driver with inf-wizard, i used a VID of 0x167B and PID of 0×0101. MFG of Pure Digital and device name of Saturn. i’m pretty sure the MFG and device name are arbitrary. then name the driver like saturn.inf.
    2 run that through the regular windows driver installing routine, give it the file from libusb it asks for in the driver install if it asks for it.
    3 run the OPS camera dumping utility. it has 3 builds of the OPS exe when you download OPS, so run the one with the version # that most closly matches your libusb version.
    4 When you have OPS going, click “open camcorder”, it should say the “found camcorder” and “connected to camcorder”. click “unlock camcorder” it’ll make a key for the camcorder and should unlock it. once the camcorder is unlocked, click “download last movie”, give it a filename and hit “save”.

    congrats you just got a video off the camcorder! to get the other videos off you need to delete the last video off the camcorder. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN THE LAST VIDEO ONTO THE COMPUTER FIRST! TEST IT TO MAKE SURE! then delete the last video of the camcorder with the delete button on the back of the camcorder. you don’t need to unplug the camcorder while you do this either. lather, rinse, repeat step 4 to get the rest of the videos. when done you should have an empty camera and all the videos on your hard drive. hack a nice day.

  • colin says:

    the page with the instructions on making that custom USB cable says its for the digital camera, not the camcorder. am i reading that wrong, or is it compatible with both?

  • This hack is incredible, I’ve always wanted a cheap camcorder. Now, all we need is to set it up to stream to a website and I’m sold.

  • Matthew says:

    Can anyone link me to this camcorder?

  • Man_of_cube says:

    colin: The camcorder is pin-compatible with the camera, so the same cable should work for both.

  • tom says:

    Is there anywhere we can buy these cameras online? I’m nowhere near a CVS store..

  • hb says:

    Yeah….that storefinder says that im nowhere near a CVS store, the closest one is about 200 miles away lol…. Think anyone would ship me one? i can pay via paypal? If your willing email me at raging_night@hotmail.com

    Thanks!

  • chris26 says:

    Anyone have any idea about the battery life on this thing?
    I hear you cant swap it out.
    What good is doing this if the battery only lasts an hour or two…

  • ccrook says:

    Chris26 – battery life is decent I’ve been playing with mine for a while and its still on the crappy toshiba alkalines it came with. And you can switch them out – paperclip into the hole on the bottom.

    I got this working at 3 this morning heh

  • nik says:

    does anybody have the link of the camcorder i need it im goin there tomorrow

  • carpespasm says:

    woo, got myself a second one since i have a cvs about 10min away that stocks them :)

  • Bird603568 says:

    I don’t see it anywhere on their site. Also I don’t feel like walking 15 mins to CVS and find out that they dont have it.

  • mur says:

    do you think that after they find out about this that they might discontinue them? i mean i bet at least half of the people buying these are gonna be trying to screw with them.

  • manny says:

    anyone know where to buy the palm m100 hotsync cable? ARE there any other cables that you can use? i cant seem to find any because its “old”

  • We drove by a CVS everyday on the way to Defcon. I don’t know if I should be disappointed that this hack didn’t come out earlier so I could pick up a camera or relieved that I didn’t have to throw it together at Defcon.

  • fizil says:

    any sample vids out there?

  • manny says:

    any place to buy the palm cable? Does it have to be m100 hotsync? any other cable you can use?

  • Epicrusadr says:

    There aren’t any CVS’s within 460 miles of where I live. :( Oh well!

  • Keys says:

    I couldn’t find an m100 sync cable so I soldered a female USB plug onto the camera itself. Just took it apart for more room, but it works like a charm, if you don’t mind a huge usb thing hanging off the top

  • phycon says:

    Is there a cached version of the site? its overloaded for the month.

  • kolwon says:

    you can get the palmsync m100 cable off of ebay (like i did a while back)

    and you could also try these variations of making the cable (the m100 is definately the best though, its a perfect fit for the camera and camcorder)

    cradle cord
    http://www.maushammer.com/systems/dakotadigital/dl-palm.html

    printer cable cord
    http://www.maushammer.com/systems/dakotadigital/dl-centronics.html

  • Bus says:

    Is it really worth it to get this? From the reviews I’ve read, the image quality is horrible and playback on tv (I’m guessing primarily from DVD) has many artifacts and effects from light. Granted, it is a 30 dollar disposable camera, but many of the cheap usb cameras can do the same. Toy factor is a plus, but rationally I may pass at this and spend my money on a margarita machine. ;)

  • Kwan says:

    hmm.. the site to build a usb cable is frozen… any mirrors? and any possible way to create one out of a palm hotsync cable… it has 16 pins on it. thx

  • Kwan says:

    hmm.. the site to build a usb cable is frozen… any mirrors? and any possible way to create one out of a palm hotsync cable… it has 16 pins on it. thx

  • This is pretty sweet! I did the CVS Red Digital camera Hack for a project on hacking for school. It was a fun project but the picture quality was not worth the $20 bucks (but the A on the project was:-)) When I started the project, they had just came out the the video camera but it had yet to be hacked.

  • dj virto says:

    Here is a better description of the cable-making. It is written for the still cameras, but it’s the same cable as you need for the video camera..

  • Richard says:

    To those people who can’t get them:

    I called my local CVS, and the guy said he has a bunch of them.

    If you want one, I have no problem shipping them, if you pay via paypal. email me offsite at rhenderson [at] that google email service thing . com and we can figure out how much it’ll cost to get you one. I’ll also provide my ebay profile link so you can see my 40+ positive buying and selling feedback.

    -Rich

  • mE says:

    any word on when the hack for the cvs video camera will be out?

  • Auger duval says:

    Has anyone had a problem actually getting this hak to work? My ops crashes everytime I try to DL the movie.

  • cam says:

    just applied for a job at CVS, saw these things while applying – soon i’ll have a 30% discount and i’ll pick a few up.

  • Tired2 says:

    “”37. Posted Aug 4, 2005, 10:01 AM ET by mE

    any word on when the hack for the cvs video camera will be out?
    “”

    WTF, please quit posting on sites on this planet. Thats what this hack is, everything you need to get the videos. Pls quit wasting our time.

  • Tired2 says:

    Anyone w/ problems w/ Ops, check the forum. Also, the .1 version here is not the newest. .2 is out and on sourceforge. eliot, if you want a camera, email me: evanmj ]at[ g-mail=com, i can get them at a discounted price. on that same forum (linked by make), there is a tool called “saturndownloader’ that us supposed to work on all OS’s, including macOS. and one last thing, dont buy a palm cable, theres a guide on how to make a cable from an older printer cable. google the still camera cable and its on the first page.

    -tired2

  • keys says:

    auger> are you unlocking the camera? ops crashed for me when i tried to download before i unlocked it. you have to unlock it each time i believe?

    tired2> i think he was joking :-P

  • dave says:

    You can get m100 hotsync cables in Southern California 99 cents stores, I don’t know if they hook to serial or USB.

  • dave says:

    99 cents stores also has the palm III hotsync to serial cables (without the cradle.)

  • dave says:

    99 cents stores also has the palm III hotsync to serial cables (without the cradle.)

  • kolwon says:

    its a serial cable, just use the camera connector, the serial cable gets desoldered. its WAAY worth it to use the palm cable though over the old printer cable method in my opinion, i tried both, the m100 cable was much better, a perfect fit. and id says the 30 bucks is well worth it considering this is the first release of the hack. but i guess only time will tell if it does (dont see why it wouldn’t) if you’re willing to risk the money dont forget to sign up for a cvs card ;)

  • Richard says:

    For anyone interested, I have 2 cameras left. 3 people have bought from me and I shipped them their cameras via UPS today.

    (Funny story: I told the CVS woman what I was doing with 6 cameras, and she was *not* impressed; obviously she was one of the only people that work at CVS smart enough to realize that CVS sells these at a loss.)

  • nik says:

    ok i saw the camera its like $30 bucks is it really worth it

  • Eric says:

    Would any of you fine fellows be willing to build me a cable for a fee? I am more a filmmaker than a hacker and could use your help.

  • Silver says:

    Just did this. Carpespasm’s post helped a lot. I also made my own connector with some paper; just holds the wires on the contacts. If anyone wants to know, the wires go, from right to left looking at the top of the camera with the lens up, black, white, green, unused, red.

  • carpespasm says:

    glad i helped, i made it easier to get it all installed now to, i call it “CVS Camcorder Quickinstall” check it out at http://camerahacks.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=556

  • Xaos says:

    makes gotta new walkthrough..this one with a little bit of info for those of you running a mac

    http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2005/08/how_to_cvs_vide_1.html

  • hanoola says:

    I went in to buy one and those cvs bitches wouldnt give me my 30% employee discount. they’re always lookin for a way to make another buck. you you are right aobut it selling at a loss, they make up for it in the processing. 13 bucks for a 20 minute dvd. its a rip really. thanks for the nice hack, i’ll get crankin on it soon. i can also ship to people who cant find them, at a cheap price cause i’ll put my discount in. paypal only. just email me at a99lbscox@hotmail.com

  • rkawakami says:

    Hey all, I’m the owner of the site referenced in the link “build a usb cable”. I discovered a few days ago that all of my bandwidth (1.5GB) for the entire month was sucked up in a couple of days, probably due to this article. I have removed the two sample photos (1MB by themselves) and purchased more bandwidth for the month from my web host provider. The site is back up at the original URL with another temporary link to the page in question. To answer a couple of questions that I quickly scanned here: Yes, M100 cables are still available where I originally got mine (eBay). Use the search string “Palm M100 cable”. There is also a PDF copy of my site that someone has posted at:

    http://www.mrbill.net/cvscam/cvscamera-cable-howto.pdf

    I assume that the cable will work for the camcorder, given that somebody here said that the pinouts are the same between the two. I have NOT seen or used the camcorder so I can’t personally say that it will work or not.

  • Xaos says:

    1Mb photos? well no wonder your bandwidth got leeched. Try resizing.

    There is also another HOW TO posted using the Palm III cradle device and it looks pretty sweet the way you can just mount the camera with it. I searched ebay and you can find these there pretty easily as well.

    http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/182/94/

    Wonder when hackaday will get on it? Perhaps do something to use the camera to record streaming video straight to the computer? Possiblities, possibilities…

    btw i recieved my stickers yesterday in excellent condition, thank you if you still read this thread vince and eliot.

  • Jay says:

    If you are comfortable with soldering you can add a mini USB connector to the camera, the same one that many digi cameras and mp3 players have. I have 4 cameras to add them to, my order should arrive early next week, $3 each or $2.50 if you get 6 or more. Here is the part number and link, it’s about 3/4 down the page. Good luck.

    P/N: URB-2-1001
    http://www.ntcdistributing.com/products/usbcon.htm

  • rkawakami says:

    xaos: It’s TWO unretouched (i.e. not resized) photos, each one over 500KB, from the Dakota and my Canon A10 that I had posted to show the quality (or not) of a $10 digital camera. When I set up the site I never expected to get >3,000 hits all within two weeks!

    jay: I had also thought about adding a mini-USB connector to my four cameras but I decided it was easier, though maybe not cheaper, to make three cables. The cameras don’t have to be opened or altered in any way and I don’t have to fool around with the fine-pitch leads of the mini connector (read: poor close-up vision with my contacts) or try to figure out how/where to mount them inside the cameras.

  • Xaos says:

    Oh ok, well then in that case, you gotta love the unexpected ;)

    open question, and probably a dumb one…but if this is “CVS Camcorder download alpha” what will beta consist of?

  • Jova says:

    Question: I got everything working correctly, but when I play the videos off of the camera, I only get audio and no video. I’m guessing that this is a codec issue. Can anyone tell me where to get a codec that will let me watch these videos and not just listen to them? Thanx

  • puppetboy denver co says:

    Is anyone looking at how to separate the camera and LCD so that it can be used as a security monitor ? put a cable between the two ?

  • The happy hacker says:

    The $30 CVS camcorder just got better. Apparently, with some judicious editing of the USP.BIN file, you can change the resolution and data rate of your video. Mine are now running 640×480 at 30fps. I only get ~10 minutes, it’s quality video. I also have a vanity serial number to top it off. There is a thread at the Camerahacking site that shows how to do it, or you can use a patching program one if the denizens created. It is very easy to do with ops 0.7.

    Cheers!

  • DJD says:

    Yeah, Now OPS is up to version .9 You can change all the USP.BIN settings right from there. No need to use a patcher program. Awesome.

  • Graphxking says:

    I would love to have one of these but there is not a cvs within 200 miles of me. Is there anyone willing to help me out?

    Mike@graphxking.com

  • Mike c. says:

    I can help people out that don’t live near a CVS.
    e-mail me at digitaldude22@earthlink.net

  • Sean says:

    Hey, could a cut up USB extender cable work?????

  • carl sine says:

    I’m new at this,but I was wondering if it is possible for the display on the CVS camera to be used as a moniter for a pc?

  • Frank M says:

    How do you unlock a camera with Version 3.6 Firmware. My 3.3 cam works fine, but the 3.6 version “says” it can’t open the camera ??? Thanks

  • Chris TT says:

    here’s my page for making a 24 pin centronics connector-based cable

    http://www.throughthekeyboard.com/cvscam.html

    [Chris TT]

  • lUIS says:

    Check out my version of the usb connector installed on my CVS Cam

  • CD1234 says:

    Great Site, and Great lil gadget ill say i saw a sweeeeeet project that this guy did he made a docking stand for the CVS cam like the docking stand for the ipod, awesome stuff see it here http://www.i-hacked.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=182, and i saw another guy did this and made a video on it seen here http://www.ourmedia.org/node/49095, youll need quick time player to view this video but apple right now has bundled itunes with it so go to google and get it there i cant remember the site i got mine off just put in quicktime 7 in google but dont go to apple, unless u want itunes :-) BTW i do have a digital camera/camcorder its by aiptek its a pretty good one ive burned video off it to a VCD and the sound is really grainy but it works, id like to get my hands on that JVC everio <–(i think this is what its called) one records dvd quality video on a hard drive no taped no discs or cards

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