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		<title>By: V</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-414505</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[V]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 03:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[torrent a book on it and buy a breadboard.  knowlege is free. if your a hacker that is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>torrent a book on it and buy a breadboard.  knowlege is free. if your a hacker that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuhong Bao</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-121074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yuhong Bao]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You have to become a member of the pci-sig group in order to legally access all the PCI documentation, and the annual fee is $3000 a year.&quot;
Or you can order the PCI 3.0 spec as a non-member at $1000:
http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/order_form]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have to become a member of the pci-sig group in order to legally access all the PCI documentation, and the annual fee is $3000 a year.&#8221;<br />
Or you can order the PCI 3.0 spec as a non-member at $1000:<br />
<a href="http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/order_form" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/order_form</a></p>
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		<title>By: Soosie</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13044</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Soosie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey guys, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;very nice ideas. But has anyone have already more information about how to build your own pci, i&#039;m very interested due to a project on school where i need a very fast interface to the pc, and i saw this topic and well if anyone knows how to read and write to a PCI device this would be a very nice solution. &lt;br&gt;(Maybe some kind of schemtics or software?) I hope you guys can help me, i also searched very much on the internet but didn&#039;t find anything to help, only some timing schemetics.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In forward thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, </p>
<p>very nice ideas. But has anyone have already more information about how to build your own pci, i&#8217;m very interested due to a project on school where i need a very fast interface to the pc, and i saw this topic and well if anyone knows how to read and write to a PCI device this would be a very nice solution. <br />(Maybe some kind of schemtics or software?) I hope you guys can help me, i also searched very much on the internet but didn&#8217;t find anything to help, only some timing schemetics.</p>
<p>In forward thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: bEN JACKSON</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13017</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bEN JACKSON]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also homebrewed a PCI card, but in a slightly more practical way.

http://www.ben.com/minipci/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also homebrewed a PCI card, but in a slightly more practical way.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ben.com/minipci/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ben.com/minipci/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ur;lord pyro -k</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ur;lord pyro -k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Anyone know of a mirror of this? Or did someone by chance save a copy?</p>
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		<title>By: kva</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13018</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What so exciting about hacking ? :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What so exciting about hacking ? :D</p>
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		<title>By: Washu</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13020</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Washu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 23:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s pretty neat even though it does not implament an auto configureation registor.
It could be useful in allowing one to hook up an LCD or relay box to a legacy free machine esp a macintosh as they have no parallel ports new world ones even lack general serial IO and only have USB and 1394.
Yes one can use a usb interface box but these do cost $130 a copy and they sometimes only come with a windows only driver and may have poor documentation making it difficult to write a new driver.
As on the PCI bus specs they have been loose in public for sometime pinouts and bus timings are publicly avilible so ignore pixel&#039;s remarks and have fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty neat even though it does not implament an auto configureation registor.<br />
It could be useful in allowing one to hook up an LCD or relay box to a legacy free machine esp a macintosh as they have no parallel ports new world ones even lack general serial IO and only have USB and 1394.<br />
Yes one can use a usb interface box but these do cost $130 a copy and they sometimes only come with a windows only driver and may have poor documentation making it difficult to write a new driver.<br />
As on the PCI bus specs they have been loose in public for sometime pinouts and bus timings are publicly avilible so ignore pixel&#8217;s remarks and have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: haloscorned</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13021</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[haloscorned]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 04:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s responses like #1 that confuse the hell out of me. We apparently live in a world where &quot;ultra leet&quot; speak is more important than knowledge. The last time I checked, being a &quot;hacker&quot; wasn&#039;t a status symbol. It was one persons desire to understand the secrets and inner workings behind closed doors.

For the record, the knowledge of how a PCI card works is MUCH more important than WHAT it can do for you. It&#039;s what YOU can MAKE it do. So, a &quot;hack&quot; is something YOU do to the computer to produce results. Custom results. You make it behave in a way you want it to behave. And, if the feeling of playing God with your computer isn&#039;t enough to rock your ultra leet socks off...

I believe Nintendo has a user friendly interface. Please, go play Mario Sunshine and smile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s responses like #1 that confuse the hell out of me. We apparently live in a world where &#8220;ultra leet&#8221; speak is more important than knowledge. The last time I checked, being a &#8220;hacker&#8221; wasn&#8217;t a status symbol. It was one persons desire to understand the secrets and inner workings behind closed doors.</p>
<p>For the record, the knowledge of how a PCI card works is MUCH more important than WHAT it can do for you. It&#8217;s what YOU can MAKE it do. So, a &#8220;hack&#8221; is something YOU do to the computer to produce results. Custom results. You make it behave in a way you want it to behave. And, if the feeling of playing God with your computer isn&#8217;t enough to rock your ultra leet socks off&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe Nintendo has a user friendly interface. Please, go play Mario Sunshine and smile.</p>
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		<title>By: haloscorned</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13022</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[haloscorned]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 04:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s responses like #1 that confuse the hell out of me. We apparently live in a world where &quot;ultra leet&quot; speak is more important than knowledge. The last time I checked, being a &quot;hacker&quot; wasn&#039;t a status symbol. It was one persons desire to understand the secrets and inner workings behind closed doors.

For the record, the knowledge of how a PCI card works is MUCH more important than WHAT it can do for you. It&#039;s what YOU can MAKE it do. So, a &quot;hack&quot; is something YOU do to the computer to produce results. Custom results. You make it behave in a way you want it to behave. And, if the feeling of playing God with your computer isn&#039;t enough to rock your ultra leet socks off...

I believe Nintendo has a user friendly interface. Please, go play Mario Sunshine and smile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s responses like #1 that confuse the hell out of me. We apparently live in a world where &#8220;ultra leet&#8221; speak is more important than knowledge. The last time I checked, being a &#8220;hacker&#8221; wasn&#8217;t a status symbol. It was one persons desire to understand the secrets and inner workings behind closed doors.</p>
<p>For the record, the knowledge of how a PCI card works is MUCH more important than WHAT it can do for you. It&#8217;s what YOU can MAKE it do. So, a &#8220;hack&#8221; is something YOU do to the computer to produce results. Custom results. You make it behave in a way you want it to behave. And, if the feeling of playing God with your computer isn&#8217;t enough to rock your ultra leet socks off&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe Nintendo has a user friendly interface. Please, go play Mario Sunshine and smile.</p>
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		<title>By: kva</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13023</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How to apply 8255 in this card ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to apply 8255 in this card ?</p>
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		<title>By: Pixel</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13026</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pixel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2005 04:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, nice thing. But the problem is, the PCI specifications are completely closed out to the public. Well, general public that is. You have to become a member of the pci-sig group in order to legally access all the PCI documentation, and the annual fee is $3000 a year.

http://www.pcisig.com/membership/join_pci_sig/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, nice thing. But the problem is, the PCI specifications are completely closed out to the public. Well, general public that is. You have to become a member of the pci-sig group in order to legally access all the PCI documentation, and the annual fee is $3000 a year.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pcisig.com/membership/join_pci_sig/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcisig.com/membership/join_pci_sig/</a></p>
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		<title>By: CAptSnuffy</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13025</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CAptSnuffy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2005 02:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the problem with these suggestions is that the PCI interface (i know thats redundant)is completely unnecesary. Yuo could just grad the power from a spar molex connector and make yur own simple circuit with a microcontroller and some sensors. You&#039;d only need the PCI to work in conjunction with software, and it seems like a lot of people wouldn&#039;t want to get into that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem with these suggestions is that the PCI interface (i know thats redundant)is completely unnecesary. Yuo could just grad the power from a spar molex connector and make yur own simple circuit with a microcontroller and some sensors. You&#8217;d only need the PCI to work in conjunction with software, and it seems like a lot of people wouldn&#8217;t want to get into that.</p>
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		<title>By: billytheimpaler</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[billytheimpaler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how about a fan/cold cathode controller that has as many outputs as you want.  power can come from Pci and if you need more juice, from molex connetors.  you could write routines for it to run or control it from a gui console.  you could sprinkle temperature sensors through the case and set up temp thresholds for the fans so they automatically vary themselves with load, just like the controllers on the motherboard.  you could set up cooling zones so if one zone becomes hotter than another, just those fans kick into action and rectify the situation.
for lighting you could have optical sensors that determine how dark it is and vary the intensity of the light based on that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about a fan/cold cathode controller that has as many outputs as you want.  power can come from Pci and if you need more juice, from molex connetors.  you could write routines for it to run or control it from a gui console.  you could sprinkle temperature sensors through the case and set up temp thresholds for the fans so they automatically vary themselves with load, just like the controllers on the motherboard.  you could set up cooling zones so if one zone becomes hotter than another, just those fans kick into action and rectify the situation.<br />
for lighting you could have optical sensors that determine how dark it is and vary the intensity of the light based on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Face</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13029</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Face]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 08:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being a case modder, I&#039;d love to use something based on this which could simply switch relays (or actually transistors would be better) and see if switches were switched on/off.  That in itself would be very nice, because with the software that you&#039;d surely have to make for it, you could totally automate your case (or a robot if you wanted to).  Only problem would be figuring out how to write software that could communicate with it.  Also to even build those simple features I described is way above my head.

A serial output would also be nice, to drive things like LCD screens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a case modder, I&#8217;d love to use something based on this which could simply switch relays (or actually transistors would be better) and see if switches were switched on/off.  That in itself would be very nice, because with the software that you&#8217;d surely have to make for it, you could totally automate your case (or a robot if you wanted to).  Only problem would be figuring out how to write software that could communicate with it.  Also to even build those simple features I described is way above my head.</p>
<p>A serial output would also be nice, to drive things like LCD screens.</p>
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		<title>By: jeanphe</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2005/10/07/pci-simplified/comment-page-1/#comment-13028</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeanphe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 08:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what about using it as an interface to emulate a automotive ECU to use and control OEM fuel injection harness with your own software.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about using it as an interface to emulate a automotive ECU to use and control OEM fuel injection harness with your own software.</p>
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