Comments on: Full motion video on an 8088

By: 8088_4_ever

8088_4_ever — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:20:50 +0000

one thing I don’t see is how he got the DMA sound working. I had a Comodore Colt 8088 and a sound blaster 2 .0 and spent ages trying to get it to work, but all I managed to get was the adlib synthesiser support, never managed to get PCM output/input running. Unless it was just the bath of cards I had or the drivers creative released at the time. I gave up in the end and upgraded to a 286 (386, 486…) and it worked fine in all of them.

By: Fortyseven

Fortyseven — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:08:11 +0000

Nice, but as others have mentioned it’s not really amazing. Using ‘ANSI’ style colored text as a low-rent graphics mode is hardly a breakthrough, and it’s not really a shock to get music from — ahem — a Soundblaster Pro. If this was an MDA instead of CGA display (perhaps taking advantage of an original green screen with the terribly slow phosphor decay rate…?), with PC speaker hacked sound (also not a huge feat, but would add more cred to this hack), I’d be a little less harsh.

It’s not awful or anything, mind you.

By: jason scott

jason scott — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:23:02 +0000

That would be a big no on the video and audio being lifted from 9 fingers. Here’s the original 9 fingers, on video:

http://scene.org/file_dl.php?url=ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/mirrors/amidemos/9fingers.zip&id=211266

Among other things, 8088 Corruption has full-color and constant motion (9 fingers has to bow out to those chinese characters every once in a while to get back into sync).

The principles are the same, of course, Trixter never denied that. And there is no doubt that this would be harder to do years ago, than where he had to spend significant time ENCODING the video (that’s where the hard work is, writing that part of it) so that the PC can do it.

By: break

break — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:01:16 +0000

xorvious: In 9 Fingers (and its predecessor State of the Art) it wasn’t actual full motion video, but converted into a precalculated vector animation “streamed” from the disks. Floppy-packed FMV did appear in A500 demos like 242 by Virtual Dreams though, in all its blocky fullscreen glory. :)

By: xorvious

xorvious — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:02:53 +0000

If I recall, some of that video and possibly audio are lifted from “9 Fingers” by Spaceballs, an old amiga 500 demo. And that full motion video on the amiga ran from floppy disk! There was never anything quite like the amiga modding scene…
(nothing against the current demo scene, but some of that stuff on the amiga WAS the birth of “multimedia”)

By: gehang

gehang — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 05:55:33 +0000

Ya but can he put porn on it? J/K

By: The Steven

The Steven — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 05:16:12 +0000

I knew there was a reason I was keeping that Tandy 1000 in the closet!

BTW, Spinrite can be used to change the interleave of the HD, and if you have a fast enough controler and drive you can get to an interleave of 1:1

BTW #2… There was a Western Digital RLL controller that would take a Seagate MFM 20Mb drive 32Mb!

By: smilr

smilr — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:46:07 +0000

Actually its the other way round – he started the discussion with “could this be made to work on the Xt?” then went ahead and made it work on the even OLDEr 5150.

True, its a 5150 with a cga graphics card, soundblaster audio card and a hard drive added onto the stock configuration, but still at the heart is a 5150.

By: IMWeasel

IMWeasel — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:01:02 +0000

Markyb said “your talking about the original pcs that had 16k and monochrome.. the xt had color and 64k ..”

I believe you are right. Which means he doesn’t have the original model 5150 like it says on the page. The 5150 WAS the original with 16k and monochrome.

By: [kj]

[kj] — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 01:23:48 +0000

here’s a link…it’s what cacheout (the firefox extension) gave me.

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:Rc3y79GMvDwJ:www.oldskool.org/pc/8088_Corruption+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

hope it works for you

By: orwell84

orwell84 — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:25:41 +0000

An exercise in displaying full-motion video on the first IBM PC….first IBM pc.

By: OlivierB

OlivierB — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:12:35 +0000

Video Google is down for this file :-(
Ay care to post a mirror o something better? (i.e. youtube.com)

By: tj

tj — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:15:43 +0000

Hmm Commodore 64 which i owned in 1982 did full motion video and audio striaght out of the box.

XT – 1983

Maybe one of the first IBM’s but not the first personal computer.

By: TheCheeta

TheCheeta — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:43:32 +0000

Heh… I love the cat meows at the end.

By: spanky deluxe

spanky deluxe — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:34:32 +0000

That’s one of the coolest and most impressive hacks I’ve ever seen. If only there could be a downloadable video with a much higher resolution, I really want to see it at a decent quality. Maybe it’d be possible somehow to pipe the screen output straight into a tv card of a modern PC and record a screen capture that way? I don’t know how the screen gets rendered on that but it could well be similar to old tvs in which case stealing a signal shouldn’t be too hard.

Spanky