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	<title>Comments on: Low-cost sensing and communication with an LED</title>
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		<title>By: Layla Collins</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-141571</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Layla Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 20:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Led lights are great because they are long lasting and consumes less electricity.:&#039;;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Led lights are great because they are long lasting and consumes less electricity.:&#8217;;</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-132169</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting, interesting. 
Going to rebuild the iDropper thing with a SOIC Attiny13, an SMD LED and a tiny button cell.
See if I can get the size down a bit, and maybe hack a monitor&#039;s on/off LED and hook another Attiny13 to the monitor&#039;s DDC channel for communication to it (DDC2 is just I2C)
Voila, easy communication with cheap iDropper devices.
Use it for auth, use it for doorlocks, use it for anything!

--Nathan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, interesting.<br />
Going to rebuild the iDropper thing with a SOIC Attiny13, an SMD LED and a tiny button cell.<br />
See if I can get the size down a bit, and maybe hack a monitor&#8217;s on/off LED and hook another Attiny13 to the monitor&#8217;s DDC channel for communication to it (DDC2 is just I2C)<br />
Voila, easy communication with cheap iDropper devices.<br />
Use it for auth, use it for doorlocks, use it for anything!</p>
<p>&#8211;Nathan</p>
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		<title>By: Deyjavont</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-117732</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deyjavont]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you think using LEDs for input it groundbreaking (although mentioned in the 70s) then look into Memristors (also hypothesized in the 70s, found a couple years ago by HP labs.) It&#039;ll blow your mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think using LEDs for input it groundbreaking (although mentioned in the 70s) then look into Memristors (also hypothesized in the 70s, found a couple years ago by HP labs.) It&#8217;ll blow your mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-117630</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anyone else catch the engadget, et al post about Apple&#039;s patent to use individual pixels as touch sensors?  That was for capacitive multitouch, but given this, couldn&#039;t any oled panel provide feedback?
It would have to be calibrated so that a touch is registered by the total occlusion of light to the diode.  If not practical for touch interfaces (e.g. bad signal/noise) it could at least eliminate the need for additional ambient light sensors, or proximity (face) detectors on phones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else catch the engadget, et al post about Apple&#8217;s patent to use individual pixels as touch sensors?  That was for capacitive multitouch, but given this, couldn&#8217;t any oled panel provide feedback?<br />
It would have to be calibrated so that a touch is registered by the total occlusion of light to the diode.  If not practical for touch interfaces (e.g. bad signal/noise) it could at least eliminate the need for additional ambient light sensors, or proximity (face) detectors on phones.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-70563</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 05:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t even solder but even I learnt in school that an LED can output light AND sense light.. Even I feel smart after reading these comments :x]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t even solder but even I learnt in school that an LED can output light AND sense light.. Even I feel smart after reading these comments :x</p>
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		<title>By: static</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-49740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[static]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK using LED in an application where their light output isn&#039;t the primary purpose is NOT a hack? Good Lord hackaday isn&#039;t going even have a chance to please a few, much less most is it.

I&#039;m sure are most like myself will never duplicate few of the hacks as exactly as presented here, but a lot learned goes in a note book. The notebook may be brain matter, paper or electronic. Unlike many publications hackaday costs nothing to view.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK using LED in an application where their light output isn&#8217;t the primary purpose is NOT a hack? Good Lord hackaday isn&#8217;t going even have a chance to please a few, much less most is it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure are most like myself will never duplicate few of the hacks as exactly as presented here, but a lot learned goes in a note book. The notebook may be brain matter, paper or electronic. Unlike many publications hackaday costs nothing to view.</p>
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		<title>By: ebidk</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-49281</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ebidk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@phobia That&#039;s a really nice idea actually.

I think you could build a mod for your average laptop to use a LED as a sensor and then trigger the hotkeys on the keyboard for changing screen brightness to get a good enough effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@phobia That&#8217;s a really nice idea actually.</p>
<p>I think you could build a mod for your average laptop to use a LED as a sensor and then trigger the hotkeys on the keyboard for changing screen brightness to get a good enough effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Phobia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phobia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure if backlights nowadays used LEDS, but I see no reason why a computer couldn&#039;t be created that used such a backlight. Imagine a computer screen that checks the light levels and changes it&#039;s output accordingly, no more getting blinded by a bright computer screen at night.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if backlights nowadays used LEDS, but I see no reason why a computer couldn&#8217;t be created that used such a backlight. Imagine a computer screen that checks the light levels and changes it&#8217;s output accordingly, no more getting blinded by a bright computer screen at night.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-17296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this hack is awsome]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this hack is awsome</p>
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		<title>By: Vdawg</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-17298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vdawg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a thought for the ultra-geek. With this technology, imagine enclosing a box with each wall being covered in these sensors, and using it as a way of reading total human body movement... Thing about the Virtual Reality imput possibilities of this? I know it sounds silly, but as I was reading these posts and watching the short films, it seems very doable, albeit expensive. I&#039;m sure we must have a reader with both the time and resources to take on such a task. I will watch with baited breath!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thought for the ultra-geek. With this technology, imagine enclosing a box with each wall being covered in these sensors, and using it as a way of reading total human body movement&#8230; Thing about the Virtual Reality imput possibilities of this? I know it sounds silly, but as I was reading these posts and watching the short films, it seems very doable, albeit expensive. I&#8217;m sure we must have a reader with both the time and resources to take on such a task. I will watch with baited breath!</p>
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		<title>By: Vdawg</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-17299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vdawg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a thought for the ultra-geek. With this technology, imagine enclosing a box with each wall being covered in these sensors, and using it as a way of reading total human body movement... Thing about the Virtual Reality imput possibilities of this? I know it sounds silly, but as I was reading these posts and watching the short films, it seems very doable, albeit expensive. I&#039;m sure we must have a reader with both the time and resources to take on such a task. I will watch with baited breath!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thought for the ultra-geek. With this technology, imagine enclosing a box with each wall being covered in these sensors, and using it as a way of reading total human body movement&#8230; Thing about the Virtual Reality imput possibilities of this? I know it sounds silly, but as I was reading these posts and watching the short films, it seems very doable, albeit expensive. I&#8217;m sure we must have a reader with both the time and resources to take on such a task. I will watch with baited breath!</p>
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		<title>By: enterrupt</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-17300</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[enterrupt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#59: I studied plenty of electronics in my electrical engineering courses.  Unfortunately when i was in school the focus was on telecom careers.  All the fun stuff (to me) is in the hardware and software development though, and not computer networking.  My advice would be to study the curriculums and talk to your advisors early on when it&#039;s still easy to change your major.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#59: I studied plenty of electronics in my electrical engineering courses.  Unfortunately when i was in school the focus was on telecom careers.  All the fun stuff (to me) is in the hardware and software development though, and not computer networking.  My advice would be to study the curriculums and talk to your advisors early on when it&#8217;s still easy to change your major.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Green</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-17301</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

I would really like to understand what the heck you guys are talking about. What kind of engineering would I need to major in to do stuff like this. I&#039;m in 12th grade and I plan to major in electrical engineering, but the college I plan on going to has electrical engineering and electronic engineering. Which one would be better for me to major in, because I am really interested in this kind of stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I would really like to understand what the heck you guys are talking about. What kind of engineering would I need to major in to do stuff like this. I&#8217;m in 12th grade and I plan to major in electrical engineering, but the college I plan on going to has electrical engineering and electronic engineering. Which one would be better for me to major in, because I am really interested in this kind of stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: justdiy</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-17302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justdiy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re #57 ... on the &#039;offical&#039; forrest mims website, there are no publications listed for 1977, but there are some related to the field of optoelectronics published between 1972 and 1982 - perhaps 1977 was given as some sort of median year of reference

official list of publications: http://www.forrestmims.org/pages/3/index.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re #57 &#8230; on the &#8216;offical&#8217; forrest mims website, there are no publications listed for 1977, but there are some related to the field of optoelectronics published between 1972 and 1982 &#8211; perhaps 1977 was given as some sort of median year of reference</p>
<p>official list of publications: <a href="http://www.forrestmims.org/pages/3/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.forrestmims.org/pages/3/index.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: AL</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/comment-page-1/#comment-17303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[which Forrest M Mims III book can i find this project in? a couple people mentioned seeing it in the 1977 publication, but i can seem to find it. i really like this project and i&#039;m going to try using it in a tele-rehabilitation project for one of my classes.

also, if any one has written a program for this in Matlab, it would be really helpful if i could take a look at it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>which Forrest M Mims III book can i find this project in? a couple people mentioned seeing it in the 1977 publication, but i can seem to find it. i really like this project and i&#8217;m going to try using it in a tele-rehabilitation project for one of my classes.</p>
<p>also, if any one has written a program for this in Matlab, it would be really helpful if i could take a look at it.</p>
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