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		<title>By: vicky goel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vicky goel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i want to make a vga to rca cable i want a diagrame for it cound any on help me for this]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i want to make a vga to rca cable i want a diagrame for it cound any on help me for this</p>
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		<title>By: bb</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/06/20/vga-cat5-extension-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-61021</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this worked great, www.vgaextend.net great product
i never thought it would work this good. i have my TV 50 feet away from my media center PC. HD baby HD for $13]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this worked great, <a href="http://www.vgaextend.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.vgaextend.net</a> great product<br />
i never thought it would work this good. i have my TV 50 feet away from my media center PC. HD baby HD for $13</p>
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		<title>By: fqpobcluxe</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/06/20/vga-cat5-extension-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-59717</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/06/20/vga-cat5-extension-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-58147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you can use this adapter www.vgaextend.net]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can use this adapter <a href="http://www.vgaextend.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.vgaextend.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: pa</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i want to build a vga to rgb to hook to my tv can u help me i got an old vga cable and 3 rca conections....thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i want to build a vga to rgb to hook to my tv can u help me i got an old vga cable and 3 rca conections&#8230;.thanks</p>
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		<title>By: triggerman_77</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/06/20/vga-cat5-extension-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-19932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[triggerman_77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it possible to make a VGA splitter using CAT5? Have you already created one and do you have a link that I can use as a reference for making one? thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to make a VGA splitter using CAT5? Have you already created one and do you have a link that I can use as a reference for making one? thanks</p>
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		<title>By: triggerman_77</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/06/20/vga-cat5-extension-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-19933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[triggerman_77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it possible to make a VGA splitter using CAT-5? let&#039;s say a 4 output VGA. If you were able to create one do you have a website that I can check for reference? And don&#039;t you encounter any change on the picture quality?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to make a VGA splitter using CAT-5? let&#8217;s say a 4 output VGA. If you were able to create one do you have a website that I can check for reference? And don&#8217;t you encounter any change on the picture quality?</p>
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		<title>By: EMPORIUM</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/06/20/vga-cat5-extension-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-19935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EMPORIUM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your cable is out of spec.  A good VGA cable requires 75 ohm internal cables.  If you were to run that cable for a longer distance you would start getting convergance errors and rf problems.  You might want to try building a high quality cable with five 75 ohm tv cables of equal length. Maybe a short run to a project box then a 5 cable fanout from the box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your cable is out of spec.  A good VGA cable requires 75 ohm internal cables.  If you were to run that cable for a longer distance you would start getting convergance errors and rf problems.  You might want to try building a high quality cable with five 75 ohm tv cables of equal length. Maybe a short run to a project box then a 5 cable fanout from the box.</p>
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		<title>By: nickk678</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 22:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it possible to build a vga-&gt; svideo converter?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to build a vga-> svideo converter?</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calvin Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is cool.  For those that don&#039;t understand? There is a trick involved in this.
Every &quot;pair&quot; of wires in the cat 5 cable &quot;must&quot; be transmitting and receiveing the two sides of the SAME SIGNAL.  IE,  if there is a high frequency video signal on 1 wire, the corresponding ground return for that same signal MUST go through the other cable (the same color).  That is what gives you the shielding effect.  Any EMI induced in one wire has the counter EMI induced in the other half of the twisted pair. Since the counter EMI is induced in the exact same voltage but &quot;backwards&quot; to the original the EMI is canceled out at the end (where the monitor is at).  If you make the mistake of just thinking of the cat 5 cable as 8 wires, you will never make a cable like this work.  If you are carefull to ensure that each signal goes thru a &quot;twisted pair&quot;.. this will work.. as well as a shielded cable.
As I remember it, a VGA cable has 3 color signals going through it. One for Red, Green and Blue.  The remaining 2 wires are used to piggyback the rest of the pins. Since they don&#039;t carry high freguency AC, they don&#039;t matter as much. Only the 3 AC signals for the 3 colors really matters for video quality.
Interesting.
The only pitfall of Twisted pair (cat 5) over Shielded (VGA Cable) is at higher frequencys. Once the wavelength of the EMI interference gets close to the twists per inch of the Cat 5 cable?  The EMI can induce into one cable more then the other. This means the shielding effect  works best at low frequencys  (like power cables)  Just keep it away from super high frequency stuff..... and make sure that any high frequency signals get transmitted and returned on a single pair of twisted wires.
 If you understand this simple rule, you can send any high frequency signal over a Cat 5 cable as long as there are 4 or less high frequency signals. (Component only uses 3 so it will work). oh... It is recommended you keep the bends of the Cat 5 cable to a minumum.  If you make a sharp bend in the cable, you can cause signal degradation at the bend....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is cool.  For those that don&#8217;t understand? There is a trick involved in this.<br />
Every &#8220;pair&#8221; of wires in the cat 5 cable &#8220;must&#8221; be transmitting and receiveing the two sides of the SAME SIGNAL.  IE,  if there is a high frequency video signal on 1 wire, the corresponding ground return for that same signal MUST go through the other cable (the same color).  That is what gives you the shielding effect.  Any EMI induced in one wire has the counter EMI induced in the other half of the twisted pair. Since the counter EMI is induced in the exact same voltage but &#8220;backwards&#8221; to the original the EMI is canceled out at the end (where the monitor is at).  If you make the mistake of just thinking of the cat 5 cable as 8 wires, you will never make a cable like this work.  If you are carefull to ensure that each signal goes thru a &#8220;twisted pair&#8221;.. this will work.. as well as a shielded cable.<br />
As I remember it, a VGA cable has 3 color signals going through it. One for Red, Green and Blue.  The remaining 2 wires are used to piggyback the rest of the pins. Since they don&#8217;t carry high freguency AC, they don&#8217;t matter as much. Only the 3 AC signals for the 3 colors really matters for video quality.<br />
Interesting.<br />
The only pitfall of Twisted pair (cat 5) over Shielded (VGA Cable) is at higher frequencys. Once the wavelength of the EMI interference gets close to the twists per inch of the Cat 5 cable?  The EMI can induce into one cable more then the other. This means the shielding effect  works best at low frequencys  (like power cables)  Just keep it away from super high frequency stuff&#8230;.. and make sure that any high frequency signals get transmitted and returned on a single pair of twisted wires.<br />
 If you understand this simple rule, you can send any high frequency signal over a Cat 5 cable as long as there are 4 or less high frequency signals. (Component only uses 3 so it will work). oh&#8230; It is recommended you keep the bends of the Cat 5 cable to a minumum.  If you make a sharp bend in the cable, you can cause signal degradation at the bend&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, VGA to component adapters are pretty easy to find:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&amp;DID=7&amp;Partnumber=181-700]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, VGA to component adapters are pretty easy to find:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&#038;DID=7&#038;Partnumber=181-700" rel="nofollow">http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&#038;DID=7&#038;Partnumber=181-700</a></p>
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		<title>By: ex-parrot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ex-parrot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wrathofpyro: no. different video standards.

luiz_borges: I got a lot of ghosting etc over even a fairly short run doing that, but I suspect the cable runs over top of some lighting or heating wires in the ceiling. ymmv. worth a try though I would think :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wrathofpyro: no. different video standards.</p>
<p>luiz_borges: I got a lot of ghosting etc over even a fairly short run doing that, but I suspect the cable runs over top of some lighting or heating wires in the ceiling. ymmv. worth a try though I would think :)</p>
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		<title>By: wrathofpyro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wrathofpyro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I am reading your comments correctly, I can use a y pb pr cable with my ps2 to hook it up to this hack then to my monitor?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I am reading your comments correctly, I can use a y pb pr cable with my ps2 to hook it up to this hack then to my monitor?</p>
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		<title>By: luiz_borges</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[luiz_borges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about a extender with stereo audio signal AND s-video? audio uses two pair, the s-video uses the other two... so far its fine, but how about noise one on the other? Is a booster recommended? Anyone knows how to make a booster for AV???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about a extender with stereo audio signal AND s-video? audio uses two pair, the s-video uses the other two&#8230; so far its fine, but how about noise one on the other? Is a booster recommended? Anyone knows how to make a booster for AV???</p>
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		<title>By: tek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VGA is NOT the same thing as component :D

VGA is R/G/B. Component is NOT, however you can transmit VGA over RGB cables, which are the same as component just the signals are not the same, This is why we don&#039;t see VGA-&gt;Component adapters. A short explanation....

&quot;Component video consists of three signals. The first is the luminance signal, which indicates brightness or black &amp; white information that is contained in the original RGB signal. It is referred to as the &quot;Y&quot; component. The second and third signals are called &quot;color difference&quot; signals which indicate how much blue and red there is relative to luminance. The blue component is &quot;B-Y&quot; and the red component is &quot;R-Y&quot;. The color difference signals are mathematical derivatives of the RGB signal.&quot;

Component operates on difference, not additive color.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VGA is NOT the same thing as component :D</p>
<p>VGA is R/G/B. Component is NOT, however you can transmit VGA over RGB cables, which are the same as component just the signals are not the same, This is why we don&#8217;t see VGA->Component adapters. A short explanation&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Component video consists of three signals. The first is the luminance signal, which indicates brightness or black &#038; white information that is contained in the original RGB signal. It is referred to as the &#8220;Y&#8221; component. The second and third signals are called &#8220;color difference&#8221; signals which indicate how much blue and red there is relative to luminance. The blue component is &#8220;B-Y&#8221; and the red component is &#8220;R-Y&#8221;. The color difference signals are mathematical derivatives of the RGB signal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Component operates on difference, not additive color.</p>
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