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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-77945</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clean the air in your home with an air purifier it will leave the air fresh and clean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clean the air in your home with an air purifier it will leave the air fresh and clean.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22074</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some blowers for greenhouse ventilation in the range the article claims:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://homeharvest.com/climatecontrolexhaustfans.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://homeharvest.com/climatecontrolexhaustfans.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no 325 CFM blower, but it would probably take about 150W to run.  A smaller 265 CFM one is also about the size of the &quot;ionic cooler.&quot;  The biggest source of noise in them is probably the moving air, not the motor, and if you put a screen in front of the outlet, you&#039;d probably hear a swish noise like you get from swinging a tennis racket.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One would think that a mechanical blower is a wee bit more powerful (and efficient) than anything someone is going to kludge together using electrons to push the air directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some blowers for greenhouse ventilation in the range the article claims:</p>
<p><a href="http://homeharvest.com/climatecontrolexhaustfans.htm" rel="nofollow">http://homeharvest.com/climatecontrolexhaustfans.htm</a></p>
<p>There is no 325 CFM blower, but it would probably take about 150W to run.  A smaller 265 CFM one is also about the size of the &#8220;ionic cooler.&#8221;  The biggest source of noise in them is probably the moving air, not the motor, and if you put a screen in front of the outlet, you&#8217;d probably hear a swish noise like you get from swinging a tennis racket.</p>
<p>One would think that a mechanical blower is a wee bit more powerful (and efficient) than anything someone is going to kludge together using electrons to push the air directly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dok</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22073</link>
		<dc:creator>Dok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i really cant see it moving that much air either, in fact i have one and if you put you hand directly infront of it, you can barely feel the air going past your hand....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i really cant see it moving that much air either, in fact i have one and if you put you hand directly infront of it, you can barely feel the air going past your hand&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Monster</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22072</link>
		<dc:creator>Monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jake, that water cooled power supply is the coolest WC implementation i&#039;ve seen this week. i always thought it was with to-220 sized waterblocks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jake, that water cooled power supply is the coolest WC implementation i&#8217;ve seen this week. i always thought it was with to-220 sized waterblocks!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22071</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two points:&lt;br&gt;1) I own an Ionic Breeze, and there&#039;s no way it moves 325 cfm. Maybe there&#039;s supposed to be a decimal point in there. I could believe 32.5 (maybe).&lt;br&gt;2) Although these units aren&#039;t renowned for their their dust trapping abilities, they still do collect a lot of dirt. And it appeared to me that there was no easy way to clean the device after it had been installed in the case. (I need to clean mine about once a week.)&lt;br&gt;Still, it&#039;s a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points:<br />1) I own an Ionic Breeze, and there&#8217;s no way it moves 325 cfm. Maybe there&#8217;s supposed to be a decimal point in there. I could believe 32.5 (maybe).<br />2) Although these units aren&#8217;t renowned for their their dust trapping abilities, they still do collect a lot of dirt. And it appeared to me that there was no easy way to clean the device after it had been installed in the case. (I need to clean mine about once a week.)<br />Still, it&#8217;s a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: yo_tyler</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22070</link>
		<dc:creator>yo_tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. It was on firday that I overheard some people talking about he got a ion filter for $15 for his car so he could hotbox without his parents smelling it later. He said that it worked great and removed all the smell. I got the idea that if it can remove smoke, it can remove dust from a server cabinet, thus i wouldn&#039;t have to clean the dust out of the PSUs ever month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. It was on firday that I overheard some people talking about he got a ion filter for $15 for his car so he could hotbox without his parents smelling it later. He said that it worked great and removed all the smell. I got the idea that if it can remove smoke, it can remove dust from a server cabinet, thus i wouldn&#8217;t have to clean the dust out of the PSUs ever month.</p>
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		<title>By: Freiheit</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22069</link>
		<dc:creator>Freiheit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gunna agree with the rest. I love Mythbusters level science, but the OP falls beneath that. Replicate and improve. Right now we have a fast-n-dirty proof of concept that looks promising but needs some harder data and some refinement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, von slatt, nice work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gunna agree with the rest. I love Mythbusters level science, but the OP falls beneath that. Replicate and improve. Right now we have a fast-n-dirty proof of concept that looks promising but needs some harder data and some refinement.</p>
<p>Also, von slatt, nice work.</p>
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		<title>By: verycool</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22068</link>
		<dc:creator>verycool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a neat tweak for this is to place flourencent/neon bulbs near the plates, they light up without having current directly applied to them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a neat tweak for this is to place flourencent/neon bulbs near the plates, they light up without having current directly applied to them</p>
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		<title>By: d1rtyd</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22067</link>
		<dc:creator>d1rtyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@16 : I totally agree about the stats and temps. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It sounds like advertising for ThermalTake more than a rant about some novel idea to me. How can you quote 325cfm? Did you mean 3.25? Seriously, whats the temperature, in celcius please, of the system at idle or under load?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@16 : I totally agree about the stats and temps. </p>
<p>It sounds like advertising for ThermalTake more than a rant about some novel idea to me. How can you quote 325cfm? Did you mean 3.25? Seriously, whats the temperature, in celcius please, of the system at idle or under load?</p>
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		<title>By: Jake von Slatt</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22066</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake von Slatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, I forgot that Hackaday eats href tags.  My pumpless thermosiphon water cooled PC is here:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-cc.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-cc.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW: I suspect that the ion cooled pc would cool just fine if you removed the ionic breeze unit and re-worked the case for good convective air flow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops, I forgot that Hackaday eats href tags.  My pumpless thermosiphon water cooled PC is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-cc.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-cc.shtml</a></p>
<p>BTW: I suspect that the ion cooled pc would cool just fine if you removed the ionic breeze unit and re-worked the case for good convective air flow.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22065</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my god stop your moaning you lot its only a cooler at the end of the day .so he claims it can shift vast amounts of air so what . its a good hack so get over it you lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my god stop your moaning you lot its only a cooler at the end of the day .so he claims it can shift vast amounts of air so what . its a good hack so get over it you lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Chupa</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22064</link>
		<dc:creator>Chupa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cant get over these type of sites. They try and be witty: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;If you have difficulty with this step please close your browser and shut your computer off. Once the shutdown is complete slowly walk away from your computer and find a nice comfy place on your couch. Find any episode of Will and Grace or Friends and enjoy.â &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like if you canât do this simple thing just stop now, but the bulk of the article is how to disassemble a fairly simple thing. Who here has ever acutely read directions when disassembling something like this? They donât even say the model or brand of the Ion cooler is, so unless you lucky pick the same one, the details of the disassembly instructions are lost. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;None the less itâs a cool idea(get it? thats a punn, har har), just written bad like most b0x moding articles :-/&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cant get over these type of sites. They try and be witty: </p>
<p>&#8220;If you have difficulty with this step please close your browser and shut your computer off. Once the shutdown is complete slowly walk away from your computer and find a nice comfy place on your couch. Find any episode of Will and Grace or Friends and enjoy.â </p>
<p>Like if you canât do this simple thing just stop now, but the bulk of the article is how to disassemble a fairly simple thing. Who here has ever acutely read directions when disassembling something like this? They donât even say the model or brand of the Ion cooler is, so unless you lucky pick the same one, the details of the disassembly instructions are lost. </p>
<p>None the less itâs a cool idea(get it? thats a punn, har har), just written bad like most b0x moding articles :-/</p>
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		<title>By: bp</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22063</link>
		<dc:creator>bp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 06:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  Just wow.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sometimes you see an idea and wonder why you didn&#039;t think of it... this is one of those times.  In retrospect I can&#039;t imagine why this hasn&#039;t been tried before.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course it has some drawbacks, the voltages, the ozone (respiratory problems anyone?), the general foreign-ness of it all... plus the slight possibility that it will fry the system... but hey if those kinds of worries had stopped innovation in cooling we would have never put phase changers in either.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, you&#039;ve got to lock down those statistics on the CFM... remember we&#039;re all geeks here and there is nothing that a geek loves more than picking a nit.  Also, I&#039;d love to see a temp comparison between it and the same setup outfitted with maybe a couple of antec 120s or something...  but still this is a big step ahead for truly silent computing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now try putting two in a case for some push/pull action!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  Just wow.</p>
<p>Sometimes you see an idea and wonder why you didn&#8217;t think of it&#8230; this is one of those times.  In retrospect I can&#8217;t imagine why this hasn&#8217;t been tried before.</p>
<p>Of course it has some drawbacks, the voltages, the ozone (respiratory problems anyone?), the general foreign-ness of it all&#8230; plus the slight possibility that it will fry the system&#8230; but hey if those kinds of worries had stopped innovation in cooling we would have never put phase changers in either.</p>
<p>Anyway, you&#8217;ve got to lock down those statistics on the CFM&#8230; remember we&#8217;re all geeks here and there is nothing that a geek loves more than picking a nit.  Also, I&#8217;d love to see a temp comparison between it and the same setup outfitted with maybe a couple of antec 120s or something&#8230;  but still this is a big step ahead for truly silent computing.</p>
<p>Now try putting two in a case for some push/pull action!</p>
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		<title>By: Rougelander</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/17/ion-system-cooling/comment-page-1/#comment-22062</link>
		<dc:creator>Rougelander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i think there&#039;s a little bit of bs&#039;ing there.  Plus, the vid heat sink got horrible reviews from Maximun PC.  Thats at least a grand worth of parts that he lists, not including a proc or motherboard.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I still think the best cooling for a PC would be to attach all the components to a box fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i think there&#8217;s a little bit of bs&#8217;ing there.  Plus, the vid heat sink got horrible reviews from Maximun PC.  Thats at least a grand worth of parts that he lists, not including a proc or motherboard.</p>
<p>I still think the best cooling for a PC would be to attach all the components to a box fan.</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
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		<dc:creator>...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>less than 30db even during seaking... You are not even going to notice that with your 325cfm of air running arround...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, whats with the limit of post length?&lt;br&gt;And where is the preview button?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>less than 30db even during seaking&#8230; You are not even going to notice that with your 325cfm of air running arround&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, whats with the limit of post length?<br />And where is the preview button?</p>
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