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		<title>By: Jeep Reviews</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/28/ev-jeep-cherokee/comment-page-1/#comment-22252</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeep Reviews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I wish my pig of a TJ would get that type of mileage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I wish my pig of a TJ would get that type of mileage.</p>
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		<title>By: Binxalot</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/28/ev-jeep-cherokee/comment-page-1/#comment-22251</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If he wanted to he could place a small gas generator into his engine compartment and start it up when he&#039;s running low on battery power.  Then he could power the car with a gas generator when he&#039;s out of juice, also he could attach a solar panel to the roof of the car to charge the batteries while parked / at work etc.. I plan to do this to my Wrangler when the engine on it finally kicks the bucket.  &lt;br&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he wanted to he could place a small gas generator into his engine compartment and start it up when he&#8217;s running low on battery power.  Then he could power the car with a gas generator when he&#8217;s out of juice, also he could attach a solar panel to the roof of the car to charge the batteries while parked / at work etc.. I plan to do this to my Wrangler when the engine on it finally kicks the bucket.  </p>
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		<title>By: Gigawatts</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/28/ev-jeep-cherokee/comment-page-1/#comment-22250</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gigawatts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 08:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait to come down Christmas Break and see it for myself :D&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great Job on making it to HackaDay, Nick!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to come down Christmas Break and see it for myself :D</p>
<p>Great Job on making it to HackaDay, Nick!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/28/ev-jeep-cherokee/comment-page-1/#comment-22249</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, that kid lives across from me in the dorms! He&#039;s fscking awesome!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, that kid lives across from me in the dorms! He&#8217;s fscking awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: strider_mt2k</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/28/ev-jeep-cherokee/comment-page-1/#comment-22248</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[strider_mt2k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s see thing thing doing some off-roading if you preserved the 4WD.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thought so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see thing thing doing some off-roading if you preserved the 4WD.</p>
<p>I thought so.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheldon</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/28/ev-jeep-cherokee/comment-page-1/#comment-22247</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheldon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a nicely written up project but I have to say that it was hardly an ideal candidate to make an optimal EV car from (large, heavy, aerodynamically challenged, lots of &#039;power&#039; accessories e.g. power steering).&lt;br&gt;With a lighter, more basic donor I&#039;d expect a better range from the batteries (and probably better performance if there is less momentum)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a nicely written up project but I have to say that it was hardly an ideal candidate to make an optimal EV car from (large, heavy, aerodynamically challenged, lots of &#8216;power&#8217; accessories e.g. power steering).<br />With a lighter, more basic donor I&#8217;d expect a better range from the batteries (and probably better performance if there is less momentum)</p>
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		<title>By: newperfection</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/28/ev-jeep-cherokee/comment-page-1/#comment-22246</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All-electric really is a viable option.  Zytek currently has a prototype car, an all electric car based on the Lotus Elise platform.  120 mile range, and only 1 hour to 95% charge.  Not only that, but 0-90 times of about 10 seconds.&lt;br&gt;It really is feasible, the oil companies don&#039;t like it though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s a pretty cool project, something I&#039;d have a lot of fun with.  If only batteries weren&#039;t so expensive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All-electric really is a viable option.  Zytek currently has a prototype car, an all electric car based on the Lotus Elise platform.  120 mile range, and only 1 hour to 95% charge.  Not only that, but 0-90 times of about 10 seconds.<br />It really is feasible, the oil companies don&#8217;t like it though.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a pretty cool project, something I&#8217;d have a lot of fun with.  If only batteries weren&#8217;t so expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: moddy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 07:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done. I am an electric vehicle enthusiast. I will build my own one day. I compliment your effort, you are an inspiration in alternative energy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done. I am an electric vehicle enthusiast. I will build my own one day. I compliment your effort, you are an inspiration in alternative energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/28/ev-jeep-cherokee/comment-page-1/#comment-22244</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We actually did this exact same thing at the place I work. Except we used a motor intended for rock querys that was water proof, and liquid cooled for obvious application concerns on vehicles intended for use.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We even had a system based off of 42 0.55V solar cells that actually provided power for the motor, and deep cycle recharge via a controller array.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve seen 300HP electric motor&#039;s for $500 US on the Net. If you could make a practical means of protecting the unit from projectiles, and the element&#039;s you&#039;d have something good.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW...What&#039;s with all the ad&#039;s on this site now day&#039;s? It&#039;s kind of starting to look like free ipod site&#039;s which is kinda demeaning to the community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We actually did this exact same thing at the place I work. Except we used a motor intended for rock querys that was water proof, and liquid cooled for obvious application concerns on vehicles intended for use.</p>
<p>We even had a system based off of 42 0.55V solar cells that actually provided power for the motor, and deep cycle recharge via a controller array.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen 300HP electric motor&#8217;s for $500 US on the Net. If you could make a practical means of protecting the unit from projectiles, and the element&#8217;s you&#8217;d have something good.</p>
<p>BTW&#8230;What&#8217;s with all the ad&#8217;s on this site now day&#8217;s? It&#8217;s kind of starting to look like free ipod site&#8217;s which is kinda demeaning to the community.</p>
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		<title>By: pkm</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/09/28/ev-jeep-cherokee/comment-page-1/#comment-22243</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 02:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@8: I make it about 140,000 miles to recoup the estimated $10,000 cost of the conversion :(  I think he mentions the off-roading potential, the problem is running electric motors at low speeds can cause overheating problems unless they are properly cooled, which his wasn&#039;t to keep cost down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;@7: THere&#039;s a page of specs on the site, I think the torque was 250lb/ft, if that means anything to you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want one.. gas in Britain was Â£1.00 a litre (something like $7.20 a gallon) a couple of months ago but electricity costs about the same, now that&#039;d save me some money :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@8: I make it about 140,000 miles to recoup the estimated $10,000 cost of the conversion :(  I think he mentions the off-roading potential, the problem is running electric motors at low speeds can cause overheating problems unless they are properly cooled, which his wasn&#8217;t to keep cost down.</p>
<p>@7: THere&#8217;s a page of specs on the site, I think the torque was 250lb/ft, if that means anything to you.</p>
<p>I want one.. gas in Britain was Â£1.00 a litre (something like $7.20 a gallon) a couple of months ago but electricity costs about the same, now that&#8217;d save me some money :)</p>
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		<title>By: wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 02:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m suprised these vehicles don&#039;t need more substantial methods of heat disipation, like those baffles on heatsinks or somthing of that nature. You&#039;d think motors like that would generate some serious heat, not that theres alot of really sensitive stuff under the hood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m suprised these vehicles don&#8217;t need more substantial methods of heat disipation, like those baffles on heatsinks or somthing of that nature. You&#8217;d think motors like that would generate some serious heat, not that theres alot of really sensitive stuff under the hood.</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[holy shit, that guy is only paying less than 1/3 what I do ~&gt;:-(&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In any case, you are going to have to drive an awful lot to pay for all of the gear/time spent on the jeep...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wonder if it any better for off roading with the motor that gives full torque even at low rpm&#039;s...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy shit, that guy is only paying less than 1/3 what I do ~>:-(</p>
<p>In any case, you are going to have to drive an awful lot to pay for all of the gear/time spent on the jeep&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder if it any better for off roading with the motor that gives full torque even at low rpm&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donovan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that would be very cool, I wonder how much torque it has?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would be very cool, I wonder how much torque it has?</p>
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		<title>By: Phugedaboudet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phugedaboudet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish the prices for batteries and controllers wasn&#039;t so high. Ive attended a few seminars and local EV group meetings, and it pretty much boils down to: you have to have a two car garage for long enough to do the work (which means home ownership or renting a house) gobs of money for the controller, batteries, and motor-assuming you have the hardware to fabricate your own mounts and battery boxes-or even more cash to get these made. Not counting the original car, you&#039;re looking at thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of time, which pays for lots of gasoline(or easily buys a motorcycle that gets 40-50mpg)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you really want to get serious building an electric car and have the resources, check out a company called ac propulsion. They make an integrated ac motor control solution that includes regenerative braking and charging, and some efficient motors of 200-300 horespower equivalent. of course that&#039;ll cost ya quite a premium too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the prices for batteries and controllers wasn&#8217;t so high. Ive attended a few seminars and local EV group meetings, and it pretty much boils down to: you have to have a two car garage for long enough to do the work (which means home ownership or renting a house) gobs of money for the controller, batteries, and motor-assuming you have the hardware to fabricate your own mounts and battery boxes-or even more cash to get these made. Not counting the original car, you&#8217;re looking at thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of time, which pays for lots of gasoline(or easily buys a motorcycle that gets 40-50mpg)</p>
<p>If you really want to get serious building an electric car and have the resources, check out a company called ac propulsion. They make an integrated ac motor control solution that includes regenerative braking and charging, and some efficient motors of 200-300 horespower equivalent. of course that&#8217;ll cost ya quite a premium too.</p>
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		<title>By: SnowBlind</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SnowBlind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;br&gt;Regarding comment No 2:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The difference is that even if Coal is used to generate the electricity, the coal plant runs at an efficiency that you&#039;re gasoline engine can only dream off.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Additionally, the power on the grid can be converted to alternative sources. (California generates about 10% from renewable sources, plus another 15 from Hydro electric, and they are hoping to hit 20% renewable by 2010 and 33% by 2020).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lastly, he pays 4 cent per mile now, versus 13 cent per mile before. So I fail to see how its &quot;stupid in every way&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding comment No 2:</p>
<p>The difference is that even if Coal is used to generate the electricity, the coal plant runs at an efficiency that you&#8217;re gasoline engine can only dream off.</p>
<p>Additionally, the power on the grid can be converted to alternative sources. (California generates about 10% from renewable sources, plus another 15 from Hydro electric, and they are hoping to hit 20% renewable by 2010 and 33% by 2020).</p>
<p>Lastly, he pays 4 cent per mile now, versus 13 cent per mile before. So I fail to see how its &#8220;stupid in every way&#8221;.</p>
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