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		<title>By: Alan Millar</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/04/serial-controlled-power-outlet/comment-page-1/#comment-22987</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Millar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; And for the rest of us, there&#039;s the printer&#039;s sleep&lt;br&gt;&gt; mode. Not as effective, but still retains the &lt;br&gt;&gt; warranty.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My hack here retains the printer warranty also.  The printer is just on a glorified power strip.  Of course, any printer new enough to have a warranty probably also has a decent sleep mode.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; That scares the holy shit outta me. He needs a light&lt;br&gt;&gt; bridge to provide 100% isolation from the serial port&lt;br&gt;&gt; to the switching device. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was under the impression that solid state relays include an opto-isolator in them.  I don&#039;t really know.  That&#039;s a good point to investigate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; oooh...a Laserwriter. What model?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is a LaserWriter Pro 630.  It can do PostScript and PCL 2, with serial AppleTalk, 10Mbps EtherTalk, and Centronics parallel interfaces.  The PCL is limited to 300x300 resolution, while the PostScript can do 600x600 resolution.  And the parallel port is glacially slow.  So I drive it with PostScript over the EtherTalk interface.&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> And for the rest of us, there&#8217;s the printer&#8217;s sleep<br />> mode. Not as effective, but still retains the <br />> warranty.</p>
<p>My hack here retains the printer warranty also.  The printer is just on a glorified power strip.  Of course, any printer new enough to have a warranty probably also has a decent sleep mode.</p>
<p>> That scares the holy shit outta me. He needs a light<br />> bridge to provide 100% isolation from the serial port<br />> to the switching device. </p>
<p>I was under the impression that solid state relays include an opto-isolator in them.  I don&#8217;t really know.  That&#8217;s a good point to investigate.</p>
<p>> oooh&#8230;a Laserwriter. What model?</p>
<p>This is a LaserWriter Pro 630.  It can do PostScript and PCL 2, with serial AppleTalk, 10Mbps EtherTalk, and Centronics parallel interfaces.  The PCL is limited to 300&#215;300 resolution, while the PostScript can do 600&#215;600 resolution.  And the parallel port is glacially slow.  So I drive it with PostScript over the EtherTalk interface.</p>
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		<title>By: bchafy</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/04/serial-controlled-power-outlet/comment-page-1/#comment-22986</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bchafy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; It is dangerous if youre paranoid. But in general &lt;br&gt;&gt; it&#039;s fine. If buy the exact relay i put there your &lt;br&gt;&gt; parallel port will be fine&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You mean the solid state relay rated at 1-AMP ?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just call me paranoid then :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> It is dangerous if youre paranoid. But in general <br />> it&#8217;s fine. If buy the exact relay i put there your <br />> parallel port will be fine</p>
<p>You mean the solid state relay rated at 1-AMP ?</p>
<p>Just call me paranoid then :)</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/04/serial-controlled-power-outlet/comment-page-1/#comment-22985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello I wrote the article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foogazi.com/2006/11/03/controlling-electronic-devices-made-easy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.foogazi.com/2006/11/03/controlling-electronic-devices-made-easy/&lt;/a&gt;    and in response to the person who says it&#039;s dangerous...  It is dangerous if youre paranoid. But in general it&#039;s fine. If buy the exact relay i put there your parallel port will be fine. If you buy a different and connect it directly it might burn out your parallel port so yeah you will want to add a didoe.I tried to make it as easy as possible. And ac with the cardboard... The only way it would even start a fire is if the two wires some how touch. very unlikely.. Especailly beacuse mine are all insulated]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello I wrote the article <a href="http://www.foogazi.com/2006/11/03/controlling-electronic-devices-made-easy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foogazi.com/2006/11/03/controlling-electronic-devices-made-easy/</a>    and in response to the person who says it&#8217;s dangerous&#8230;  It is dangerous if youre paranoid. But in general it&#8217;s fine. If buy the exact relay i put there your parallel port will be fine. If you buy a different and connect it directly it might burn out your parallel port so yeah you will want to add a didoe.I tried to make it as easy as possible. And ac with the cardboard&#8230; The only way it would even start a fire is if the two wires some how touch. very unlikely.. Especailly beacuse mine are all insulated</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/04/serial-controlled-power-outlet/comment-page-1/#comment-22984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That scares the holy shit outta me. He needs a light bridge to provide 100% isolation from the serial port to the switching device. Of course, you&#039;ll need an extra board for the AC main turn on/off switch. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And do it in a plastic Radioshack project box, with proper safety (erm, like fuses???).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That scares the holy shit outta me. He needs a light bridge to provide 100% isolation from the serial port to the switching device. Of course, you&#8217;ll need an extra board for the AC main turn on/off switch. </p>
<p>And do it in a plastic Radioshack project box, with proper safety (erm, like fuses???).</p>
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		<title>By: ed3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ed3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neat. Could also automagically power cycle the cable modem if it loses sync (they usually give up re-trying after 15 minutes). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Although, for the non-DIY&#039;er who has more money than time there is X10:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First you need the controller:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smarthome.com/1132b.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.smarthome.com/1132b.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then your need plugin modules:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smarthome.com/2456s3.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.smarthome.com/2456s3.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And naturally software to drive it:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxha.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.linuxha.com/&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat. Could also automagically power cycle the cable modem if it loses sync (they usually give up re-trying after 15 minutes). </p>
<p>Although, for the non-DIY&#8217;er who has more money than time there is X10:</p>
<p>First you need the controller:<br /><a href="http://www.smarthome.com/1132b.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smarthome.com/1132b.html</a></p>
<p>Then your need plugin modules:<br /><a href="http://www.smarthome.com/2456s3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smarthome.com/2456s3.html</a></p>
<p>And naturally software to drive it:<br /><a href="http://www.linuxha.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxha.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/04/serial-controlled-power-outlet/comment-page-1/#comment-22982</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bchafy: just took a look at your dpms circuit. nice :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bchafy: just took a look at your dpms circuit. nice :)</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[uhhh yeah, about that foogazi.com link... there are many things wrong with that circuit.  first, it&#039;s got the paralell port directly running a relay.  besides the fact that there is no mention of a protection diode (!!) virtually any relay will pull more current than what your typical parallel port is rated for.  an npn transistor and resistor is absolutely essential.  furthermore, he&#039;s got the whole thing with AC mains wiring in a cardboard box!  i wouldnt even think about doing that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uhhh yeah, about that foogazi.com link&#8230; there are many things wrong with that circuit.  first, it&#8217;s got the paralell port directly running a relay.  besides the fact that there is no mention of a protection diode (!!) virtually any relay will pull more current than what your typical parallel port is rated for.  an npn transistor and resistor is absolutely essential.  furthermore, he&#8217;s got the whole thing with AC mains wiring in a cardboard box!  i wouldnt even think about doing that!</p>
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		<title>By: neoxide</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neoxide]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oooh...a Laserwriter. What model?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oooh&#8230;a Laserwriter. What model?</p>
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		<title>By: bchafy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bchafy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 20:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;br&gt;I also made a similar power outlet, based on DPMS:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/pstrip/dpmspowerstrip.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/pstrip/dpmspowerstrip.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s another that uses the parallel port (found it on digg), albeit a little on the dangerous side: :) &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foogazi.com/2006/11/03/controlling-electronic-devices-made-easy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.foogazi.com/2006/11/03/controlling-electronic-devices-made-easy/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My guess is any one of these could be combined with wake-on-lan.  Problem for me is I have an inkjet printer that goes into a 10+ minute selftest whenever its unplugged and plugged back in.  I suspect most of my cartrige ink drains away during that time.  Fortunately it doesn&#039;t consume much power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also made a similar power outlet, based on DPMS:<br /><a href="http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/pstrip/dpmspowerstrip.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/pstrip/dpmspowerstrip.html</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another that uses the parallel port (found it on digg), albeit a little on the dangerous side: :) <br /><a href="http://www.foogazi.com/2006/11/03/controlling-electronic-devices-made-easy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foogazi.com/2006/11/03/controlling-electronic-devices-made-easy/</a></p>
<p>My guess is any one of these could be combined with wake-on-lan.  Problem for me is I have an inkjet printer that goes into a 10+ minute selftest whenever its unplugged and plugged back in.  I suspect most of my cartrige ink drains away during that time.  Fortunately it doesn&#8217;t consume much power.</p>
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		<title>By: F. Shafique</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F. Shafique]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And for the rest of us, there&#039;s the printer&#039;s sleep mode. Not as effective, but still retains the warranty.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I suppose this could be combined with the Wake-on-lan hack from a few days ago, to get a sort of WOL relay for your network printer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the rest of us, there&#8217;s the printer&#8217;s sleep mode. Not as effective, but still retains the warranty.</p>
<p>Also, I suppose this could be combined with the Wake-on-lan hack from a few days ago, to get a sort of WOL relay for your network printer.</p>
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		<title>By: fucter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fucter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cool, ive been looking to do something like this, but ive been too lazy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool, ive been looking to do something like this, but ive been too lazy</p>
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		<title>By: Computer_kid</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Computer_kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But I have more fun breaking, I mean making things myself, &quot;&lt;br&gt;I have a lot experience breaking things, making them work is th trick :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I have more fun breaking, I mean making things myself, &#8220;<br />I have a lot experience breaking things, making them work is th trick :-)</p>
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