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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevmac911</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/28/diy-electric-car-heater/comment-page-2/#comment-77253</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevmac911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually... i have a 911 that needs heating/demisting, as the exhaust/heater component has been removed, (different exhaust)
I actually need an electric heater..
any best recommendations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually&#8230; i have a 911 that needs heating/demisting, as the exhaust/heater component has been removed, (different exhaust)<br />
I actually need an electric heater..<br />
any best recommendations</p>
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		<title>By: Porntubelover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Porntubelover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep working, great job with this useful blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep working, great job with this useful blog!</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Rose</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/28/diy-electric-car-heater/comment-page-2/#comment-23526</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just set yourself on fire, and then jump into the car and speed away. Something like the Ghost Rider with a VW bug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just set yourself on fire, and then jump into the car and speed away. Something like the Ghost Rider with a VW bug.</p>
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		<title>By: monster</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/28/diy-electric-car-heater/comment-page-2/#comment-23525</link>
		<dc:creator>monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are a genius dunkoriffic... actually whoever thought of that... but thank you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;once i get access to a mig (or get around to fixing mine, if possible) i&#039;m going to weld a box around the tailpipe with a couple hose fittings on it, and hook that up to a y-mixer, one side from the hotbox and the other to ambient air, add a thermistor to the outlet to adjust the mix ratio so i don&#039;t get air hotter than 120 or so (thats what water heaters are set to to prevent burns) and add that into the air system. thats a great idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are a genius dunkoriffic&#8230; actually whoever thought of that&#8230; but thank you.</p>
<p>once i get access to a mig (or get around to fixing mine, if possible) i&#8217;m going to weld a box around the tailpipe with a couple hose fittings on it, and hook that up to a y-mixer, one side from the hotbox and the other to ambient air, add a thermistor to the outlet to adjust the mix ratio so i don&#8217;t get air hotter than 120 or so (thats what water heaters are set to to prevent burns) and add that into the air system. thats a great idea!</p>
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		<title>By: dunkoriffic</title>
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		<dc:creator>dunkoriffic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 07:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re all looking at the problem the wrong way. Under the hood there is an item that warms up straightaway - the engine exhaust pipe. Put your hand on it if you don&#039;t believe me!&lt;br&gt;Air cooled Porsche cars have a hot box - a steel box that fits around the top of the exhaust where it meets the engine. Air is blown over this and it heats up instantly. Not that I&#039;ve got a porsche, the 1970 440 cu inch roadrunner in my garage warms up PDQ without the aid of a heater anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re all looking at the problem the wrong way. Under the hood there is an item that warms up straightaway &#8211; the engine exhaust pipe. Put your hand on it if you don&#8217;t believe me!<br />Air cooled Porsche cars have a hot box &#8211; a steel box that fits around the top of the exhaust where it meets the engine. Air is blown over this and it heats up instantly. Not that I&#8217;ve got a porsche, the 1970 440 cu inch roadrunner in my garage warms up PDQ without the aid of a heater anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: monster</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/28/diy-electric-car-heater/comment-page-2/#comment-23523</link>
		<dc:creator>monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why didn&#039;t he just use a blow dryer? they are designed to blow air over the coils, most likely have a thermal cutoff switch to keep the air from getting too hot (like say, a temperature you could make toast with) and you could keep the entire &quot;barrel&quot; assembly (think of the blow dryer in gun terms) because the coils are already mounted and electrically insulated from each other&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;youre using a flamethrower to do the job of a flyswatter. a flamethrower has more power, but a flyswatter won&#039;t burn your house down. choose the right tool for the job&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;used a propane space heater (the ones that mount on the little bottle you use camping) to heat my truck when it was -5f once</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why didn&#8217;t he just use a blow dryer? they are designed to blow air over the coils, most likely have a thermal cutoff switch to keep the air from getting too hot (like say, a temperature you could make toast with) and you could keep the entire &#8220;barrel&#8221; assembly (think of the blow dryer in gun terms) because the coils are already mounted and electrically insulated from each other</p>
<p>youre using a flamethrower to do the job of a flyswatter. a flamethrower has more power, but a flyswatter won&#8217;t burn your house down. choose the right tool for the job</p>
<p>used a propane space heater (the ones that mount on the little bottle you use camping) to heat my truck when it was -5f once</p>
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		<title>By: GunGeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>GunGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a 79 Honda AccordLX that had from the factory electric heat in the vents. It also shut off when the incoming air was warm enough.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also had a coworker that made something like this 15 years ago when he heard me talking about my Honda. What he did, though, was to use little 12V heating elements (kinda like 4&quot;x8&quot; heating pads) that came out of military battery packs. He wired them to the car&#039;s 12V system with a dashboard switch and put a thermal switch in the vent before the heating pads to shut them off when the incoming air got to something like 100 degrees.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Worked great! The heating elements could not get hot enough to damage anything since they were designed to go up against batteries in a plastic enclosure, but got plenty warm enough to get his big old Ford LTD warm right away in Michigan winters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a 79 Honda AccordLX that had from the factory electric heat in the vents. It also shut off when the incoming air was warm enough.</p>
<p>Also had a coworker that made something like this 15 years ago when he heard me talking about my Honda. What he did, though, was to use little 12V heating elements (kinda like 4&#8243;x8&#8243; heating pads) that came out of military battery packs. He wired them to the car&#8217;s 12V system with a dashboard switch and put a thermal switch in the vent before the heating pads to shut them off when the incoming air got to something like 100 degrees.</p>
<p>Worked great! The heating elements could not get hot enough to damage anything since they were designed to go up against batteries in a plastic enclosure, but got plenty warm enough to get his big old Ford LTD warm right away in Michigan winters.</p>
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		<title>By: ne0</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/28/diy-electric-car-heater/comment-page-2/#comment-23521</link>
		<dc:creator>ne0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno why the other parts were deemed &quot;un-needed&quot;. The thing would make a rather good bagel toaster for the drive in to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno why the other parts were deemed &#8220;un-needed&#8221;. The thing would make a rather good bagel toaster for the drive in to work.</p>
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		<title>By: lgtngstk</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/28/diy-electric-car-heater/comment-page-2/#comment-23520</link>
		<dc:creator>lgtngstk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Vroegop: Navbars are a good idea.  It&#039;ll go on my to-do list. ^_-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Vroegop: Navbars are a good idea.  It&#8217;ll go on my to-do list. ^_-</p>
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		<title>By: dioxide</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/28/diy-electric-car-heater/comment-page-2/#comment-23519</link>
		<dc:creator>dioxide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peter, the voltage doubler is to increase the cfm of the fan.  it does not need 4 amps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peter, the voltage doubler is to increase the cfm of the fan.  it does not need 4 amps.</p>
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		<title>By: strider_mt2k</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/28/diy-electric-car-heater/comment-page-2/#comment-23518</link>
		<dc:creator>strider_mt2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MMMMM&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hot, fresh, on the go toast.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now THAT&#039;S engineering!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MMMMM</p>
<p>Hot, fresh, on the go toast.</p>
<p>Now THAT&#8217;S engineering!</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/28/diy-electric-car-heater/comment-page-1/#comment-23517</link>
		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm...that&#039;s kinda cool, i need this for my warehouse, it&#039;s getting cold...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm&#8230;that&#8217;s kinda cool, i need this for my warehouse, it&#8217;s getting cold&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pragma</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/28/diy-electric-car-heater/comment-page-1/#comment-23516</link>
		<dc:creator>pragma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jentulman: Both of those ideas are just begging to be hacked, or at least photoshopped.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course with the toaster/heater combo you&#039;d also have the side effect of making the entire car smell like whatever you were toasting.  It could be a huge plus for older cars that smell, well, &quot;broken-in&quot;.  I know i&#039;d take &quot;brown sugar and cinnamon&quot; over &quot;mildew and road-tar&quot; anyday.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The foreman grill de-icer, I&#039;m not sure how you&#039;d do that; does the heating element come out of those?  It might be best kept intact as a roof-top unit that allows hot grease to drip-down and de-ice the windshield (wet-naps not included) while your breakfast sausages cook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jentulman: Both of those ideas are just begging to be hacked, or at least photoshopped.</p>
<p>Of course with the toaster/heater combo you&#8217;d also have the side effect of making the entire car smell like whatever you were toasting.  It could be a huge plus for older cars that smell, well, &#8220;broken-in&#8221;.  I know i&#8217;d take &#8220;brown sugar and cinnamon&#8221; over &#8220;mildew and road-tar&#8221; anyday.</p>
<p>The foreman grill de-icer, I&#8217;m not sure how you&#8217;d do that; does the heating element come out of those?  It might be best kept intact as a roof-top unit that allows hot grease to drip-down and de-ice the windshield (wet-naps not included) while your breakfast sausages cook.</p>
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		<title>By: Agent420</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2006/11/28/diy-electric-car-heater/comment-page-1/#comment-23515</link>
		<dc:creator>Agent420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, y&#039;all a bunch of girlie-girls... ooh, it&#039;s going to catch on fire... ooh, it&#039;s going to damage the altenator...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and you guys (gals) call yourselves hackers.  you should be ashamed.  ashamed, I say.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;perhaps you don&#039;t know the retail products are basically the same thing.  they&#039;ve sold electric car heaters for many years, it&#039;s not new. or that not everbody desires to wake up 45 minutes early to allow their car to thaw out before they can go to work.  or that old vw&#039;s used _gas-fired_ heaters, but your parents survived to have you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;it&#039;s a cool hack.  get over the website.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and be sure to have parental supervision before you make some pop-tarts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, y&#8217;all a bunch of girlie-girls&#8230; ooh, it&#8217;s going to catch on fire&#8230; ooh, it&#8217;s going to damage the altenator&#8230;</p>
<p>and you guys (gals) call yourselves hackers.  you should be ashamed.  ashamed, I say.  </p>
<p>perhaps you don&#8217;t know the retail products are basically the same thing.  they&#8217;ve sold electric car heaters for many years, it&#8217;s not new. or that not everbody desires to wake up 45 minutes early to allow their car to thaw out before they can go to work.  or that old vw&#8217;s used _gas-fired_ heaters, but your parents survived to have you.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a cool hack.  get over the website.</p>
<p>and be sure to have parental supervision before you make some pop-tarts&#8230;</p>
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