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		<title>By: srilyk</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26225</link>
		<dc:creator>srilyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 04:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@10&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just add some thermal sensor, say an IR thermometer, and give it a range of say +- 3 degrees F off 98.6 degrees.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then unless you&#039;re around someone who&#039;s real sick and probably going to die without medical treatment...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;to under stand the concepts of the law&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m sure most of us under stand[sic] the concepts of the law.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And in the United States, we have a long, glorious history of rebelling against the laws when they&#039;re unjust. Take a read at &quot;A Letter from a Birmingham Jail&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In other news, this is still a pretty cool hack.</description>
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<p>Just add some thermal sensor, say an IR thermometer, and give it a range of say +- 3 degrees F off 98.6 degrees.</p>
<p>Then unless you&#8217;re around someone who&#8217;s real sick and probably going to die without medical treatment&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;to under stand the concepts of the law&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure most of us under stand[sic] the concepts of the law.</p>
<p>And in the United States, we have a long, glorious history of rebelling against the laws when they&#8217;re unjust. Take a read at &#8220;A Letter from a Birmingham Jail&#8221;.</p>
<p>In other news, this is still a pretty cool hack.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Wood</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26224</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 21:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of illegality, the West Yorkshire Police (in the UK) actually have a website which will tell you the location of perminant and temporary speed cameras.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The logic is that the devices (dispised as they are) are simply a safety device and are mounted in locations which have previously had fatal accidents.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So looking at this way, any GPS device which warns on speed cameras is a safety device.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I general don&#039;t speed that much, and believe that you should be in control of your car at all times, and be able to cope with the mistakes of other road users.&lt;br&gt;Simon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of illegality, the West Yorkshire Police (in the UK) actually have a website which will tell you the location of perminant and temporary speed cameras.</p>
<p>The logic is that the devices (dispised as they are) are simply a safety device and are mounted in locations which have previously had fatal accidents.</p>
<p>So looking at this way, any GPS device which warns on speed cameras is a safety device.</p>
<p>I general don&#8217;t speed that much, and believe that you should be in control of your car at all times, and be able to cope with the mistakes of other road users.<br />Simon.</p>
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		<title>By: speeder</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26223</link>
		<dc:creator>speeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 14:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #23 go to www.mp3car.com/vbulletin and search for radar or valentine.  The valentine 1 seems to be the most popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #23 go to <a href="http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin" rel="nofollow">http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin</a> and search for radar or valentine.  The valentine 1 seems to be the most popular.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26222</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 09:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Another off-topic comment)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the topic of &#039;obeying the law&#039; -- there was a study done a few years back in Boston (by MIT I think?). A crackdown on jaywalking caused some researchers to estimate what would happen if EVERYONE obeyed the rules and crossed at a crosswalk (and pressed the crosswalk button).  The conclusion was that the city would actually come to a gridlock, and that jaywalking was the only way to prevent this from happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Another off-topic comment)</p>
<p>On the topic of &#8216;obeying the law&#8217; &#8212; there was a study done a few years back in Boston (by MIT I think?). A crackdown on jaywalking caused some researchers to estimate what would happen if EVERYONE obeyed the rules and crossed at a crosswalk (and pressed the crosswalk button).  The conclusion was that the city would actually come to a gridlock, and that jaywalking was the only way to prevent this from happening.</p>
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		<title>By: chris baxted</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26221</link>
		<dc:creator>chris baxted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 09:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.navalert.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.navalert.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.navalert.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.navalert.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: chris baxted</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26220</link>
		<dc:creator>chris baxted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 09:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we did this all for you and made it in a nice little box !!  All of north america covered!! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.navalert.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.navalert.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we did this all for you and made it in a nice little box !!  All of north america covered!! <a href="http://www.navalert.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.navalert.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: static</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26219</link>
		<dc:creator>static</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 21:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is sniffing and cracking radio broadcasts illegal? :-P&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;;) Generally here in the US the rules are; that you are permitted to monitor radio transmissions if don&#039;t divulge the content or use the content to break other laws.  Who knows if the patriotact nullified such sensable rules? Nuff said on that.&lt;br&gt;S.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is sniffing and cracking radio broadcasts illegal? :-P</p>
<p>;) Generally here in the US the rules are; that you are permitted to monitor radio transmissions if don&#8217;t divulge the content or use the content to break other laws.  Who knows if the patriotact nullified such sensable rules? Nuff said on that.<br />S.</p>
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		<title>By: cde</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26218</link>
		<dc:creator>cde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 19:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clearly one of you doesn&#039;t have sufficient intelligence to under stand the concepts of the law or the moral backbone to understand unethical behavior by elected officials masquerading as unquestionable overlords. You obviously can&#039;t comprehend simple US History. If you did, you would know that the highest speed limit of 55 was nationally instated because of fuel efficiency during a period of high fuel costs and low supply, not &quot;so you idiots don&#039;t kill someone&quot;. If that was the case, erase the fines and make it jail time. But then again, that would clog up the court system without paying for itself. So much for protecting innocent people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clearly one of you doesn&#8217;t have sufficient intelligence to under stand the concepts of the law or the moral backbone to understand unethical behavior by elected officials masquerading as unquestionable overlords. You obviously can&#8217;t comprehend simple US History. If you did, you would know that the highest speed limit of 55 was nationally instated because of fuel efficiency during a period of high fuel costs and low supply, not &#8220;so you idiots don&#8217;t kill someone&#8221;. If that was the case, erase the fines and make it jail time. But then again, that would clog up the court system without paying for itself. So much for protecting innocent people.</p>
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		<title>By: speeder</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26217</link>
		<dc:creator>speeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off: speed limits do not always make people safer. Driving at a reasonable speed with regards to the condition of the road is safe.  Studies show that underrated speed limits (rated by engineers- underrated by legislators) actually have higher accident rates because some people drive the limit and others drive what is reasonable.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second: Speeding never killed anyone.  Ever.  Too fast for conditions isn&#039;t speeding.  Driving irresponsibly isn&#039;t speeding.  Doing either while speeding is dangerous.  I can&#039;t hurt anyone except myself when i speed on an empty road.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[/rant]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Third: It would be easy to develop something like this.  Carputer, wireless card, gps dongle, radar detector with a data out port.  (I know the valentine 1 does it, i&#039;m sure others do) code a database to put locations on a map based on the radar band and signal strength.  There are already people working on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off: speed limits do not always make people safer. Driving at a reasonable speed with regards to the condition of the road is safe.  Studies show that underrated speed limits (rated by engineers- underrated by legislators) actually have higher accident rates because some people drive the limit and others drive what is reasonable.</p>
<p>Second: Speeding never killed anyone.  Ever.  Too fast for conditions isn&#8217;t speeding.  Driving irresponsibly isn&#8217;t speeding.  Doing either while speeding is dangerous.  I can&#8217;t hurt anyone except myself when i speed on an empty road.</p>
<p>[/rant]</p>
<p>Third: It would be easy to develop something like this.  Carputer, wireless card, gps dongle, radar detector with a data out port.  (I know the valentine 1 does it, i&#8217;m sure others do) code a database to put locations on a map based on the radar band and signal strength.  There are already people working on it.</p>
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		<title>By: kernel_geek</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26216</link>
		<dc:creator>kernel_geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 15:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clearly some of you don&#039;t have sufficient intelligence to under stand the concepts of the law. Yes at one point slavery was legal. But at the the time that was the law so it didn&#039;t matter. yes speeding tickets are a form of revenue, but hardly a primary income. Speed limits are there so that you idiots don&#039;t kill someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clearly some of you don&#8217;t have sufficient intelligence to under stand the concepts of the law. Yes at one point slavery was legal. But at the the time that was the law so it didn&#8217;t matter. yes speeding tickets are a form of revenue, but hardly a primary income. Speed limits are there so that you idiots don&#8217;t kill someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26215</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 13:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, is it possible to get the source of the Software youÂ´ve written?&lt;br&gt;Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, is it possible to get the source of the Software youÂ´ve written?<br />Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26214</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 11:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sventek:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your idea is brilliant.  It is no more illegal than getting on the phone and telling your buddies where the speed trap is that you just saw, or after passing said speed trap, flashing your lights at oncoming motorists as a warning to slow down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as the police are concerned (publicly, anyway), all of these things accomplish the very same objective: getting drivers to slow down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I&#039;m sorry, but it takes about 5 minutes and full attention to change the speed warning in my car.  I can&#039;t set the speed warning for every street onto which I turn.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A *useful* device that would alleviate the concerns that radar detectors are used to speed would be a proximity-type device that &quot;read&quot; a transponder on each street and updated the speed alarm within the car with the appropriate speed.  Thus, whatever street you&#039;re on, the speed alarm would be automatically, and correctly, calibrated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It would still be the driver&#039;s choice, however, to turn it on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sventek:</p>
<p>Your idea is brilliant.  It is no more illegal than getting on the phone and telling your buddies where the speed trap is that you just saw, or after passing said speed trap, flashing your lights at oncoming motorists as a warning to slow down.</p>
<p>As far as the police are concerned (publicly, anyway), all of these things accomplish the very same objective: getting drivers to slow down.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sorry, but it takes about 5 minutes and full attention to change the speed warning in my car.  I can&#8217;t set the speed warning for every street onto which I turn.</p>
<p>A *useful* device that would alleviate the concerns that radar detectors are used to speed would be a proximity-type device that &#8220;read&#8221; a transponder on each street and updated the speed alarm within the car with the appropriate speed.  Thus, whatever street you&#8217;re on, the speed alarm would be automatically, and correctly, calibrated.</p>
<p>It would still be the driver&#8217;s choice, however, to turn it on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26213</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 06:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to #16, I agree completely, btw, red light cameras are another good example, they&#039;ve been statistically shown to increase the number of accidents, while increasing the yellow time from 3 to six seconds has been shown to decrease accidents. yet most yellow lights are still 3 seconds, and red light cameras are popping up faster and faster, why? because both are more profitable than their safer alternatives.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On a separate note, since when are hackers concerned with with what is, and isn&#039;t lawful? isn&#039;t the whole hacker philosophy to do whats right, despite their government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to #16, I agree completely, btw, red light cameras are another good example, they&#8217;ve been statistically shown to increase the number of accidents, while increasing the yellow time from 3 to six seconds has been shown to decrease accidents. yet most yellow lights are still 3 seconds, and red light cameras are popping up faster and faster, why? because both are more profitable than their safer alternatives.</p>
<p>On a separate note, since when are hackers concerned with with what is, and isn&#8217;t lawful? isn&#8217;t the whole hacker philosophy to do whats right, despite their government.</p>
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		<title>By: Rad</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26212</link>
		<dc:creator>Rad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 02:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting off topic should be against the law...</description>
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		<title>By: Sventek</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/05/04/gps-enabled-radar-database/comment-page-1/#comment-26211</link>
		<dc:creator>Sventek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 01:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend and I were thinking about a system like this, but whenever your radar dectector alerted, it also uploaded the position to a online database, through a cell phone GPRS connection, and then it alerted all other users of the system to the speed trap. But I&#039;m sure that kinda thing is illegal anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend and I were thinking about a system like this, but whenever your radar dectector alerted, it also uploaded the position to a online database, through a cell phone GPRS connection, and then it alerted all other users of the system to the speed trap. But I&#8217;m sure that kinda thing is illegal anyway.</p>
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