Comments on: Mod chip crackdown in the US. http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/ Fresh hacks every day Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:05:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Harmony Wember http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-309943 Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:30:57 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-309943 Nice post, Just wondering if you know any good profession guides.

]]> By: Zayvion http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27594 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:54:17 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27594 That can be but not sure!

]]> By: Zoubeir http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27593 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:43:35 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27593 Oh! but Is it the think that you know earlier??

]]> By: Tabitha http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27592 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:31:52 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27592 That can be but not sure!

]]> By: Mackenzie http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27591 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:22:33 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27591 Hacking on anything!!!

]]> By: Justin http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27590 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:09:40 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27590 Victum less crimes are pointless, modes dont hurt no one, the gov does. I say let it rain anarchy opon there stupid heads!!! thay can only push a hacker/modder so far. Geez. By the way my senitor hates me for protesting anti-smoking laws. He he

]]> By: sam http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27589 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:04:50 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27589 how long untill we wont even be able to buy mod chips anymore this sucks i havent even got a chance to mod my xbox yet. does anybody no if they have taken othe large retail mod chip stores??

]]> By: jason http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27588 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:43:42 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27588 nathan belomy, blow me.

i know of a guy who was busted in this sting who has _never_ done an illegal mod. all legal cromwell bios’s that only boot linux. what the end user does after it leaves his soldering shop is their problem, not his

should the guy who pumps your gas be held liable if you get in an accident on the highway because he gave you what you needed to get there?

]]> By: nathan belomy http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27587 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 07:46:49 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27587 Problem is, most people who mod xbox’s or whatever, download illegal games and hurt the gaming business.
Just like how bit-torrent networks have become infected with movies and people download them, and don’t even rent movies.

Hacking will always exist though. It is just when hacking becomes about money, stealing and cheating corporations out of money, while turning a profit is when they get upset.

They are never going to come after the sole individual who hacks a Xbox or Xbox 360 with Linux and runs a webserver. They want to take out the guy modding consoles for idiots who can’t do it themselves. It is so easy to download a game from a bit-torrent vs. so difficult to back-up a game.

They aren’t going after the hacker who backs up his games and runs linux. Unfortunately, just like with drugs, someone gets it is always someone who gets too greedy. For instance: if the hacking scene was small, nobody would care. But these teams come out, make products for the masses, with the intent of making lots of money. Just like with unscheduled drugs: some dumbass wants lots of money, makes a bunch of some unknown drug, and bam, the DEA is all over it because it is now a threat to the public.

Sure, you guys hackers – you visit a hacking website for goodness sake. But lets face it: with technology becoming commonly used by everyone, everyone uses it more and things blow up. Things that blow up, people notice. Nobody gives a rats behind about you hacking a door knob, even if you give out the plans; because most people lack the motivation and intelligence to make it. But pretend you sold it: tons of people would just buy it, because it is so much easier then making it.

Comparing Cars Moddin to Xbox Moddin is not comparable. At least in the sense I’m talking about. You buy a car, moddin it only brings money to other companies who makes products. You buy an xbox-360, moddin it (in the case of just about everyone) hurts the game industry because people download games off the internet.

Technically moddin cars is illegal, just like technically it is illegal to mod an xbox. But the cops don’t impound your vehicle for a having a supercharger unless you’re really stupid. Sorry, but running a illegal business selling services for Xbox 360 hacking is totally illegal. Anyone doing that as a pure business model is crazy (because you know you are hurting the bottom line of gaming). The sick part is you aren’t really hurting Microsoft, you’re hurting the game manufactures, which in some cases are small little companies.

Show me one time anyone here has been arrested for hacking something. You don’t get arrested for hacking hardware, you get arrested for making a business model for selling your hacking services for a completely immoral purpose. Just like that one hacker isn’t releasing some hack that could undermind hotel security keycodes. Why? Because he isn’t some jerk trying to make living of screwing hotel security. Sure he could release the product, allow criminals to hack into anyones hotel room, causing every hotel to change locks, but he isn’t a jerk.

But these hackers who hack for $$$ aren’t hackers, they aren’t crackers either, they are criminals. But guess what, smooth criminals never get caught – but the ones that don’t realize what they are doing is illegal and just think it is normal, maybe they are just as stupid as the idiot who can’t hack his own xbox (one has common sense the other has brains, but I suppose one person can’t have BOTH).

]]> By: twistedsymphony http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27586 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 06:04:09 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27586 I’m glad this got posted here. And I’m even happier that some of you are writing your congress people about it. This isn’t the first time I’ve written mine about what I thought of a ridiculous tech law, but this one kind of hit home with me because at least 2 of the people that got hit I speak to on a weekly basis and I know nether one of them were pirates but just people who loved console modding and ran a shop on the side to help others who were interested.

the h.a.d. crowd might not all be console modders but I have to wonder how long before crap like this prevents us from even owning a soldering iron with registering it like a gun. BTW they confiscated all soldering equipments as part of the raids, as well as titles to cars, deeds to houses and other crap that really has nothing else to do with evidence related to the “crime” but royal f-cks up these people’s lives.

]]> By: pistolpete http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27585 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:40:58 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27585 P.S. do we not have anything better do to with our tax money. I.E. fight wars, fight drugs, and how did we elect a bunch of @$$ holes that wont let us enhance the capabilities of our electronics ?

]]> By: pistolpete http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27584 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:35:59 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27584 What’s next ? calling in a repair guy just to switch out a lightbulb ??? Heck, we might not be able to flush our own toilets in a few years.

]]> By: jason http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27583 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:51:19 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27583 Write your Representatives. Your taxes PAY them to represent you, so make them do their damn job.

http://www.house.gov/writerep/

]]> By: Duri3l http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27582 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:55:58 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27582 I will not be sending any letter of complaint to my respective representative. Not because I don’t care but because I don’t want that letter being the first thing put in a file with my name on it filed at an headquarters somewhere. yeh. have fun w/ that.

]]> By: Kurt_ http://hackaday.com/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-27581 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 15:53:59 +0000 http://hackaday.iheartcashews.com:8181/2007/08/03/mod-chip-crackdown-in-the-us/#comment-27581 Why not just give them what they want? They think we’re all a bunch of no good ruffians destroying the world as they know it. Let’s start by taking down their website. We all have nothing better to do…

Take down their site guys, and when they get another one up, take it down again.

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