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		<title>By: Thomas Pototschnig</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Pototschnig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi all,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thank you for your positive feedback.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I released all information (Source, Schematic, Board) under the GPL V2.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;regards&lt;br&gt;Thomas]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>thank you for your positive feedback.</p>
<p>I released all information (Source, Schematic, Board) under the GPL V2.</p>
<p>regards<br />Thomas</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy Christmas to All!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Christmas to All!</p>
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		<title>By: salsa</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30373</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[salsa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting-- Apple filed for &quot;An integrated sensing display&quot; patent in 2004:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PG01&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=%2220060007222%22.PGNR.&amp;OS=DN/20060007222&amp;RS=DN/20060007222&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PG01&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=%2220060007222%22.PGNR.&amp;OS=DN/20060007222&amp;RS=DN/20060007222&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8211; Apple filed for &#8220;An integrated sensing display&#8221; patent in 2004:<br /><a href="http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;d=PG01&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&#038;r=1&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;s1=%2220060007222%22.PGNR.&#038;OS=DN/20060007222&#038;RS=DN/20060007222" rel="nofollow">http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;d=PG01&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&#038;r=1&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;s1=%2220060007222%22.PGNR.&#038;OS=DN/20060007222&#038;RS=DN/20060007222</a></p>
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		<title>By: crgwbr</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30372</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crgwbr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hmm...makes me wonder is you could use a modded OLED screen in the same manner.  this would give you an actual touch screen instead of touch panel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm&#8230;makes me wonder is you could use a modded OLED screen in the same manner.  this would give you an actual touch screen instead of touch panel.</p>
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		<title>By: Solenoid</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Solenoid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This reminds me of the Tenori-on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.global.yamaha.com/design/tenori-on/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.global.yamaha.com/design/tenori-on/&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the Tenori-on.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.global.yamaha.com/design/tenori-on/" rel="nofollow">http://www.global.yamaha.com/design/tenori-on/</a></p>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out this:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&amp;langpair=de%7Cen&amp;u=http://natebu.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&amp;langpair=de%7Cen&amp;u=http://natebu.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this:<br /><a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&#038;langpair=de%7Cen&#038;u=http://natebu.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&#038;langpair=de%7Cen&#038;u=http://natebu.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30369</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of the monome project:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://monome.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://monome.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the monome project:<br /><a href="http://monome.org" rel="nofollow">http://monome.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30368</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With a report rate of around 40ms for an 8x8 array that covers 6&quot;. It would require multiple chips to do parallel capture for scaling it up to a 20&quot; monitor and getting a reasonable touch and feel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a report rate of around 40ms for an 8&#215;8 array that covers 6&#8243;. It would require multiple chips to do parallel capture for scaling it up to a 20&#8243; monitor and getting a reasonable touch and feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30367</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Groxx:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not sure that having the led&#039;s on or off would make any difference. At first I was thinking the same thing. (that is was detecting the reflected light), but I don&#039;t see how it would be possible to have an led on and detecting simultaneously (i mean literally simultaneously, not pulsed or&lt;br&gt;anything) which would mean that there&#039;d never be any reflected light during its sampling time, which leads me to believe they&#039;d have to detect using ambient only.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Groxx:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that having the led&#8217;s on or off would make any difference. At first I was thinking the same thing. (that is was detecting the reflected light), but I don&#8217;t see how it would be possible to have an led on and detecting simultaneously (i mean literally simultaneously, not pulsed or<br />anything) which would mean that there&#8217;d never be any reflected light during its sampling time, which leads me to believe they&#8217;d have to detect using ambient only.</p>
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		<title>By: Off_topic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Off_topic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Off topic spam:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyone looking for version 4 and earlier WRT54G(S)? I&#039;ve got 3 for sale. 2 GS 1 G model. Have been used a little but pretty much new and in the box still. Email me at vanderaerden at gee mail if you are interested...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic spam:</p>
<p>Anyone looking for version 4 and earlier WRT54G(S)? I&#8217;ve got 3 for sale. 2 GS 1 G model. Have been used a little but pretty much new and in the box still. Email me at vanderaerden at gee mail if you are interested&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cbm5</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30365</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cbm5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[haha....he was unhappy that nyu only posted a demo video and no details. so he makes his own version from scratch...and only posts a demo video and no details. that&#039;s hilarity right there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha&#8230;.he was unhappy that nyu only posted a demo video and no details. so he makes his own version from scratch&#8230;and only posts a demo video and no details. that&#8217;s hilarity right there.</p>
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		<title>By: rj</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30364</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I (tried to) implement jhan&#039;s matrix for a class and found that i had horrible issues with crosstalk from other LEDs in the same column (which is OK if you have low ambient light in the receptive band for your photoelectronic element like in his video, but it wasn&#039;t true for the red or green leds i was trying).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I (tried to) implement jhan&#8217;s matrix for a class and found that i had horrible issues with crosstalk from other LEDs in the same column (which is OK if you have low ambient light in the receptive band for your photoelectronic element like in his video, but it wasn&#8217;t true for the red or green leds i was trying).</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30363</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wolf;&lt;br&gt;This looks like it could be modified to be on/off indicator and switch.  Would take multicolor leds and use them as a toggle indicator, one color for on and the other for off, delay state change(debounce) in software.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolf;<br />This looks like it could be modified to be on/off indicator and switch.  Would take multicolor leds and use them as a toggle indicator, one color for on and the other for off, delay state change(debounce) in software.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sanjay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Surely you could just alternate rapidly between input sensing and doing light output to emulate bi-directional input/output from the panel? Imagine an LED table that was as dense with LEDs as this panel is, and had multi-colour LEDs that reacted to objects atop the table?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely you could just alternate rapidly between input sensing and doing light output to emulate bi-directional input/output from the panel? Imagine an LED table that was as dense with LEDs as this panel is, and had multi-colour LEDs that reacted to objects atop the table?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Nelson</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-30361</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Nelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i would assume its scalable if it&#039;s the LED&#039;s picking up the IR light being reflected off your fingers.. he also said it works independently of most ambient light so, lights on or off wouldn&#039;t matter. you could scale up if you could manage to maintain precision... that looks really cool either way, props man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would assume its scalable if it&#8217;s the LED&#8217;s picking up the IR light being reflected off your fingers.. he also said it works independently of most ambient light so, lights on or off wouldn&#8217;t matter. you could scale up if you could manage to maintain precision&#8230; that looks really cool either way, props man.</p>
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