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	<title>Comments on: Embedding apps in wifi finders</title>
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		<title>By: Washu</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/01/21/embedding-apps-in-wifi-finders/comment-page-1/#comment-31259</link>
		<dc:creator>Washu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if one could make a wifi to bluetooth transceiver from this that could allow any bluetooth smart phone that can run a version of skype to make calls over the internet?&lt;br&gt;It also could allow chat wap etc without burning through your minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if one could make a wifi to bluetooth transceiver from this that could allow any bluetooth smart phone that can run a version of skype to make calls over the internet?<br />It also could allow chat wap etc without burning through your minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mycroft</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/01/21/embedding-apps-in-wifi-finders/comment-page-1/#comment-31258</link>
		<dc:creator>Mycroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@pc486:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;An 8-bit OS with a tcp/ip stack, you mean like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sics.se/contiki/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sics.se/contiki/&lt;/a&gt; or it&#039;s subproject &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sics.se/~adam/uip/index.php/Main_Page&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sics.se/~adam/uip/index.php/Main_Page&lt;/a&gt; ?&lt;br&gt;The Contiki project probably brings too much to the table for this device, but the uIP stack should be perfect - written in C, already working on the 8051, and tiny like a demo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pc486:</p>
<p>An 8-bit OS with a tcp/ip stack, you mean like <a href="http://www.sics.se/contiki/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sics.se/contiki/</a> or it&#8217;s subproject <a href="http://www.sics.se/~adam/uip/index.php/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">http://www.sics.se/~adam/uip/index.php/Main_Page</a> ?<br />The Contiki project probably brings too much to the table for this device, but the uIP stack should be perfect &#8211; written in C, already working on the 8051, and tiny like a demo.</p>
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		<title>By: dru</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/01/21/embedding-apps-in-wifi-finders/comment-page-1/#comment-31256</link>
		<dc:creator>dru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...gumstix mobo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;gumstix mobo?</p>
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		<title>By: mungewell</title>
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		<dc:creator>mungewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, being 8 bit no chance of running Linux. However there are plenty of ways of using Linux as the development platform and downloading the code. That said if this  uber-hacker wants to use VB that&#039;s his choice.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Once he get some code and a tcp stack running I think this would make a really cool wireless mesh node.... but maybe that just me ;-) Any other suggestions?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Definately qualifies as a cool hack!&lt;br&gt;Mungewell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, being 8 bit no chance of running Linux. However there are plenty of ways of using Linux as the development platform and downloading the code. That said if this  uber-hacker wants to use VB that&#8217;s his choice.</p>
<p>Once he get some code and a tcp stack running I think this would make a really cool wireless mesh node&#8230;. but maybe that just me ;-) Any other suggestions?</p>
<p>Definately qualifies as a cool hack!<br />Mungewell.</p>
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		<title>By: Elitist #7703</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elitist #7703</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s not much ram at all - only 2k.  So any apps are going to have to be very light on their memory usage.  Should be no problem though, as people have TCP stacks running on 8051&#039;s and even PIC micros already.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS - I think VB is easy as hell to write in, and there was some mention of extreme laziness..!  Maybe you can port the dumper program to a new language for them.  I&#039;d certianly rather use C than VB.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s not much ram at all &#8211; only 2k.  So any apps are going to have to be very light on their memory usage.  Should be no problem though, as people have TCP stacks running on 8051&#8217;s and even PIC micros already.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I think VB is easy as hell to write in, and there was some mention of extreme laziness..!  Maybe you can port the dumper program to a new language for them.  I&#8217;d certianly rather use C than VB.</p>
<p>Thanks for the fun!</p>
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		<title>By: pc486</title>
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		<dc:creator>pc486</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, it wont run Linux as it&#039;s just an 8051 or similar. That said, it&#039;s a $50 device for a 8051 uC with attached wifi chip! I hope there&#039;s enough flash and ram to stick on a wifi and TCP/IP stack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, it wont run Linux as it&#8217;s just an 8051 or similar. That said, it&#8217;s a $50 device for a 8051 uC with attached wifi chip! I hope there&#8217;s enough flash and ram to stick on a wifi and TCP/IP stack.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/01/21/embedding-apps-in-wifi-finders/comment-page-1/#comment-31253</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@unixgeek&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;because it&#039;s fast and easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@unixgeek</p>
<p>because it&#8217;s fast and easy.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>better question: why do unix geeks always post random crap, rather than talk about something useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>better question: why do unix geeks always post random crap, rather than talk about something useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Unixgeek</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/01/21/embedding-apps-in-wifi-finders/comment-page-1/#comment-31251</link>
		<dc:creator>Unixgeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the hell does everyone write crap in Visual Basic?..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reverse engineering work: Good.&lt;br&gt;Windows Advocacy: Lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the hell does everyone write crap in Visual Basic?..</p>
<p>Reverse engineering work: Good.<br />Windows Advocacy: Lame.</p>
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		<title>By: EllisGL</title>
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		<dc:creator>EllisGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if I can hook up a GPS and have it save to a USB storage device as a NetStumbler file it would be really kick ass..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now if I can hook up a GPS and have it save to a USB storage device as a NetStumbler file it would be really kick ass..</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg fucking brilliant!!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;think of an ÂµLinux witch running aircrack :-D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg fucking brilliant!!!!</p>
<p>think of an ÂµLinux witch running aircrack :-D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: strider_mt2k</title>
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		<dc:creator>strider_mt2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m taken aback somewhat by a steady negative response to many of the hacks on here lately.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look, come up with _something useful_ to add that might make it _better_ or stay in the peanut gallery!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These folks are doing stuff. Stay our of their way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;personally I try to see what the basis of the hack is and how it&#039;s doing for the person who developed it.&lt;br&gt;_many_ cool wifi hacks have come from here and I enjoy reading all of them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just picked up a very inexpensive trendnet tew-424ub usb adapter to play with and hacks like this open up doors to more cool ideas with stuff like this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I say good o! rock on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m taken aback somewhat by a steady negative response to many of the hacks on here lately.</p>
<p>Look, come up with _something useful_ to add that might make it _better_ or stay in the peanut gallery!</p>
<p>These folks are doing stuff. Stay our of their way.</p>
<p>personally I try to see what the basis of the hack is and how it&#8217;s doing for the person who developed it.<br />_many_ cool wifi hacks have come from here and I enjoy reading all of them.</p>
<p>I just picked up a very inexpensive trendnet tew-424ub usb adapter to play with and hacks like this open up doors to more cool ideas with stuff like this.</p>
<p>So I say good o! rock on!</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/01/21/embedding-apps-in-wifi-finders/comment-page-1/#comment-31247</link>
		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, he can basically put any app on the wifi finder he wants now, and use the peripherals for whatever he so pleases. Pretty cool if you ask me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, he can basically put any app on the wifi finder he wants now, and use the peripherals for whatever he so pleases. Pretty cool if you ask me!</p>
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		<title>By: ScrappyLaptop</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScrappyLaptop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>er, no.  read the article and you will find that the device is a wifi adapter + a microcontroller.  what he wants to do is make a single-app device using that micro that can connect to his server and trade information, such as the status of his inbox or perhaps dump data to his server (not necessarily sniffed wifi data; my first read assumed something like a wireless temperature logger, to start with something really simple).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>er, no.  read the article and you will find that the device is a wifi adapter + a microcontroller.  what he wants to do is make a single-app device using that micro that can connect to his server and trade information, such as the status of his inbox or perhaps dump data to his server (not necessarily sniffed wifi data; my first read assumed something like a wireless temperature logger, to start with something really simple).</p>
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		<title>By: jimmythecow</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmythecow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so this is a lot of effort to make a cheap device sniff wifi signals? seems a round about... cool. but from what im reading, pretty useless on a grand scale. cool, but nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so this is a lot of effort to make a cheap device sniff wifi signals? seems a round about&#8230; cool. but from what im reading, pretty useless on a grand scale. cool, but nothing.</p>
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