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		<title>By: security</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31706</link>
		<dc:creator>security</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEMPEST&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEMPEST&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;TEMPEST testing is required to ensure that no unintentional compromising emissions occur from cryptographic and other equipment processing.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEMPEST" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEMPEST</a><br />TEMPEST testing is required to ensure that no unintentional compromising emissions occur from cryptographic and other equipment processing.</p>
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		<title>By: coonass</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31704</link>
		<dc:creator>coonass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the term the hacker is going for is &quot;dowsing&quot; EMF.   Whatever passes for &#039;physical theory&#039; behind dowsing indicates that it is subjective ability to sense variations in local EMF fields for one reason or another (locating water, metal deposits, enemy soldiers crouching in underground tunnels, etc.). The US Army employed dowsers to try to locate parts of the vast tunnel complex near Cu Chi, Vietnam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the term the hacker is going for is &#8220;dowsing&#8221; EMF.   Whatever passes for &#8216;physical theory&#8217; behind dowsing indicates that it is subjective ability to sense variations in local EMF fields for one reason or another (locating water, metal deposits, enemy soldiers crouching in underground tunnels, etc.). The US Army employed dowsers to try to locate parts of the vast tunnel complex near Cu Chi, Vietnam.</p>
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		<title>By: pixel form</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31705</link>
		<dc:creator>pixel form</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working on a project and this post seemed like a good lead but I&#039;m at a loss.  Are there any resources for good simple FM receiver designs for frequencies between 1 and 3 ghz?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can&#039;t really get much from this post or the guy&#039;s writing (dense and incomprehensible as it is) but it seems like the scrying community (if it actually exists) might have some good tools for FM stuff.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-PF (parenthetically)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working on a project and this post seemed like a good lead but I&#8217;m at a loss.  Are there any resources for good simple FM receiver designs for frequencies between 1 and 3 ghz?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t really get much from this post or the guy&#8217;s writing (dense and incomprehensible as it is) but it seems like the scrying community (if it actually exists) might have some good tools for FM stuff.</p>
<p>-PF (parenthetically)</p>
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		<title>By: MC</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31703</link>
		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha! this guy is nuts! rotfl after reading those solder comments... i absolutely agree that solder smoke can make you dotty..i have personally experienced that after 7 hours of continuous soldering ( not kidding!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha! this guy is nuts! rotfl after reading those solder comments&#8230; i absolutely agree that solder smoke can make you dotty..i have personally experienced that after 7 hours of continuous soldering ( not kidding!)</p>
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		<title>By: Rangerx52</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31702</link>
		<dc:creator>Rangerx52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well at the very least since he&#039;s integrated so much into the package, what he does with it is somewhat irrelevant- some of the best inventions come from looking at objects from another person&#039;s point of view. I&#039;m pretty sure with scrying aside, there&#039;s someone out there who could turn this into a neat gadget&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And okay, no tophat- but his hat IS a little odd looking. for all we know, his other side could be a black vinyl semi-victorian girdle suit. Kinda like 2-face from batman.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My left side is for business.. my right side is because noone understands me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at the very least since he&#8217;s integrated so much into the package, what he does with it is somewhat irrelevant- some of the best inventions come from looking at objects from another person&#8217;s point of view. I&#8217;m pretty sure with scrying aside, there&#8217;s someone out there who could turn this into a neat gadget</p>
<p>And okay, no tophat- but his hat IS a little odd looking. for all we know, his other side could be a black vinyl semi-victorian girdle suit. Kinda like 2-face from batman.</p>
<p>My left side is for business.. my right side is because noone understands me.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31701</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the poetic language interface. Assembly would be so much cooler if it rhymed ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the poetic language interface. Assembly would be so much cooler if it rhymed ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31700</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this guy needs to get back on his meds before he tries doing faux science / science fiction with technology that could hurt him or others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this guy needs to get back on his meds before he tries doing faux science / science fiction with technology that could hurt him or others.</p>
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		<title>By: HeBD</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31699</link>
		<dc:creator>HeBD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rangerx52 no tophat sorry... &lt;a href=&quot;http://1010.co.uk/images/electro04.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://1010.co.uk/images/electro04.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;so if he had an antenna array, and the signal processing to change the gain in any direction, and he could also calculate and eliminate signal ghosting from knowledge of closer objects that are reflecting signals (eg. take a video in a hall of mirrors and produce a 3D reprisentation of the hall)... he could create a 3D image of the electro-magnetic world in a given frequency range...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;but he cant so its a lot of wishfull thinking hes got going atm...&lt;br&gt;not that i havent thought about doing all that.. but i know i dont have the $ for the parts or the super-sized-alien-brain to do the math... the site did mention a factory that made something &lt;a href=&quot;http://1010.co.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://1010.co.uk/&lt;/a&gt;, maby thats were u get the brains or was it drugs? i cant remember now %D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rangerx52 no tophat sorry&#8230; <a href="http://1010.co.uk/images/electro04.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://1010.co.uk/images/electro04.jpg</a></p>
<p>so if he had an antenna array, and the signal processing to change the gain in any direction, and he could also calculate and eliminate signal ghosting from knowledge of closer objects that are reflecting signals (eg. take a video in a hall of mirrors and produce a 3D reprisentation of the hall)&#8230; he could create a 3D image of the electro-magnetic world in a given frequency range&#8230;</p>
<p>but he cant so its a lot of wishfull thinking hes got going atm&#8230;<br />not that i havent thought about doing all that.. but i know i dont have the $ for the parts or the super-sized-alien-brain to do the math&#8230; the site did mention a factory that made something <a href="http://1010.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://1010.co.uk/</a>, maby thats were u get the brains or was it drugs? i cant remember now %D</p>
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		<title>By: PKM</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31698</link>
		<dc:creator>PKM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you read enough writeups of stuff built by the steampunk-DIY community you quickly get a feel for how to skim through the eccentric description and faux-victorian narrative, and find the technical details.  I believe this project is, as erik said, listening to radio waves already present with the potential to leave modules transmitting as a sort of RF warchalking/guerilla art installation?  I didn&#039;t get where the mesh networking came into it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read enough writeups of stuff built by the steampunk-DIY community you quickly get a feel for how to skim through the eccentric description and faux-victorian narrative, and find the technical details.  I believe this project is, as erik said, listening to radio waves already present with the potential to leave modules transmitting as a sort of RF warchalking/guerilla art installation?  I didn&#8217;t get where the mesh networking came into it though.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31697</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He does use silver solder. Take a look at this image: &lt;a href=&quot;http://1010.co.uk/images/skrmod1.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://1010.co.uk/images/skrmod1.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This page looks a lot like the notes you&#039;d write for an electronics instructor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He does use silver solder. Take a look at this image: <a href="http://1010.co.uk/images/skrmod1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://1010.co.uk/images/skrmod1.jpg</a></p>
<p>This page looks a lot like the notes you&#8217;d write for an electronics instructor.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31696</link>
		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;scrying&quot; sounds so much cooler than &quot;listening to static.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;scrying&#8221; sounds so much cooler than &#8220;listening to static.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rangerx52</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31695</link>
		<dc:creator>Rangerx52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;we thus communicate with the scrying device using an extendible, poetic vocabulary.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sounds like this guy keeps his face a little too close to the soldering iron smoke. Switch to silver solder buddy. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;10 bucks says this guy owns a black top hat and owns at least 3 pieces of clothing that he&#039;s added studs to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we thus communicate with the scrying device using an extendible, poetic vocabulary.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like this guy keeps his face a little too close to the soldering iron smoke. Switch to silver solder buddy. </p>
<p>10 bucks says this guy owns a black top hat and owns at least 3 pieces of clothing that he&#8217;s added studs to.</p>
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		<title>By: MRE</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31694</link>
		<dc:creator>MRE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely hate how &quot;techno-artists&quot; ellaborately dress up their language in a nice pretty fruit basket of nonsense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dispense with the frilly language, and get to the point. The &quot;art&quot; is in the result, not the description of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely hate how &#8220;techno-artists&#8221; ellaborately dress up their language in a nice pretty fruit basket of nonsense.</p>
<p>Dispense with the frilly language, and get to the point. The &#8220;art&#8221; is in the result, not the description of it.</p>
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		<title>By: colecoman1982</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31693</link>
		<dc:creator>colecoman1982</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least the author seems to treat it as an art experiment rather than rambling on about crackpot pseudoscience like most sites covering a device of this type would.  (At least, thats the impression I got from the first part of his, near incomprehensible, gibberish before it started to give me a headache and I stopped reading.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least the author seems to treat it as an art experiment rather than rambling on about crackpot pseudoscience like most sites covering a device of this type would.  (At least, thats the impression I got from the first part of his, near incomprehensible, gibberish before it started to give me a headache and I stopped reading.)</p>
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		<title>By: despot</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/02/12/scrying-em-fields/comment-page-1/#comment-31692</link>
		<dc:creator>despot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>according to thefreedictionary.com:&lt;br&gt;&quot;scry &lt;br&gt;intr.v. scried, scryÃÂ·ing, scries &lt;br&gt;To see or predict the future by means of a crystal ball.&quot;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;or as a more geek friendly example, ghost seeing equipment.  (like&lt;br&gt;the little ghost detector in &#039;supernatural&#039; or other such devices) &lt;br&gt;By most its considered a hoax.  This is more elaborate and picks up&lt;br&gt;on radio waves and magnetic influence to create data.  This is&lt;br&gt;purposeless, except predicting your future-loljk&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And To the comment earlier about crt monitors...&lt;br&gt;Yeah, crt monitors send out em fields from which the image can be reconstructed; but this is not such a project.  it is just a tech-version of a crystal ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>according to thefreedictionary.com:<br />&#8220;scry <br />intr.v. scried, scryÃÂ·ing, scries <br />To see or predict the future by means of a crystal ball.&#8221;</p>
<p>or as a more geek friendly example, ghost seeing equipment.  (like<br />the little ghost detector in &#8217;supernatural&#8217; or other such devices) <br />By most its considered a hoax.  This is more elaborate and picks up<br />on radio waves and magnetic influence to create data.  This is<br />purposeless, except predicting your future-loljk</p>
<p>And To the comment earlier about crt monitors&#8230;<br />Yeah, crt monitors send out em fields from which the image can be reconstructed; but this is not such a project.  it is just a tech-version of a crystal ball.</p>
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