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		<title>By: Leticia Winterling</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leticia Winterling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, are Kenyan&#039;s qualified as members too, am intrested in joining if its something legitimate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, are Kenyan&#8217;s qualified as members too, am intrested in joining if its something legitimate.</p>
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		<title>By: Trise</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/03/23/make-your-own-aerogel/comment-page-1/#comment-439305</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i gained info of preparing or doing sol-gel is very expensive. Al though some produce it which about $2 per cm3... But its use is going to take over all in near future...
Bye...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i gained info of preparing or doing sol-gel is very expensive. Al though some produce it which about $2 per cm3&#8230; But its use is going to take over all in near future&#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/03/23/make-your-own-aerogel/comment-page-1/#comment-147168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although areogel was just trumped not to long ago by a lab that invented what they called SEAgel, which is even lighter (making it the lightest solid known to man... it&#039;s actually lighter than straight nitrogen gas!) You get that by freezedrying agar (basically skirting around the other side of water&#039;s phase diagram.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although areogel was just trumped not to long ago by a lab that invented what they called SEAgel, which is even lighter (making it the lightest solid known to man&#8230; it&#8217;s actually lighter than straight nitrogen gas!) You get that by freezedrying agar (basically skirting around the other side of water&#8217;s phase diagram.)</p>
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		<title>By: Alice3748</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/03/23/make-your-own-aerogel/comment-page-1/#comment-99819</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alice3748]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone have any tips on making it and where to get the componets? I was thinking of using it in my own experiment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have any tips on making it and where to get the componets? I was thinking of using it in my own experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: ssteiner</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/03/23/make-your-own-aerogel/comment-page-1/#comment-98186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ssteiner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s totally possible to build a supercritical dryer if you know what you&#039;re doing.  I did it when I was in high school back in 1999.  That said, I am impressed by any 10-year-old that has demonstrated that level of knowledge to figure out how to put all the chemistry, engineering, and process details together.

Anyways Aerogel.org goes into depth on how to make aerogel and build a useful supercritical dryer:  http://www.aerogel.org/?cat=10]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s totally possible to build a supercritical dryer if you know what you&#8217;re doing.  I did it when I was in high school back in 1999.  That said, I am impressed by any 10-year-old that has demonstrated that level of knowledge to figure out how to put all the chemistry, engineering, and process details together.</p>
<p>Anyways Aerogel.org goes into depth on how to make aerogel and build a useful supercritical dryer:  <a href="http://www.aerogel.org/?cat=10" rel="nofollow">http://www.aerogel.org/?cat=10</a></p>
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		<title>By: gothicbob</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/03/23/make-your-own-aerogel/comment-page-1/#comment-95421</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gothicbob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can probably offer some insight, as I&#039;ve worked with aerogel.

Aerogel is typically very transparent in the visible and infrared, less so in UV due to Rayleight scattering.

Aerogel is like florists foam to the touch, and you will leave nasty finger prints on it just by touching it, if you press hard enough you will make a dent, and harder it will break. It is very brittle, if dropped from even a small height it will shatter. Would make a terrible bike frame.

Aerogel is no more toxic than glass, you should avoid inhaling glass dust and eating it although it probably wouldn&#039;t kill you.

Normal aerogel is hyrophillic and gets destroyed when contacted with water, however it can be made hydrophobic with post-processing or with a different precursor chemical

Aspen Aerogels add in some plastic or something to make it bendy, and have some cool names for it like Pyrogel!

Aerogel is not a closed structure as it has open pores through which gas can diffuse. I think it takes ~1ms for gas to diffuse through 1mm of aerogel.

I don&#039;t think the child was achieving anything that NASA could not, as this was the first way in which aerogels were created. Nasa have created massive blocks for comet dust collection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can probably offer some insight, as I&#8217;ve worked with aerogel.</p>
<p>Aerogel is typically very transparent in the visible and infrared, less so in UV due to Rayleight scattering.</p>
<p>Aerogel is like florists foam to the touch, and you will leave nasty finger prints on it just by touching it, if you press hard enough you will make a dent, and harder it will break. It is very brittle, if dropped from even a small height it will shatter. Would make a terrible bike frame.</p>
<p>Aerogel is no more toxic than glass, you should avoid inhaling glass dust and eating it although it probably wouldn&#8217;t kill you.</p>
<p>Normal aerogel is hyrophillic and gets destroyed when contacted with water, however it can be made hydrophobic with post-processing or with a different precursor chemical</p>
<p>Aspen Aerogels add in some plastic or something to make it bendy, and have some cool names for it like Pyrogel!</p>
<p>Aerogel is not a closed structure as it has open pores through which gas can diffuse. I think it takes ~1ms for gas to diffuse through 1mm of aerogel.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the child was achieving anything that NASA could not, as this was the first way in which aerogels were created. Nasa have created massive blocks for comet dust collection.</p>
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		<title>By: mapi</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/03/23/make-your-own-aerogel/comment-page-1/#comment-91185</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mapi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the aerogel was like cotton but when it is exposed to the environment it started to collapse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the aerogel was like cotton but when it is exposed to the environment it started to collapse.</p>
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		<title>By: mapi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mapi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[question. we&#039;re now doing a research on aerogel. instead of silica, we used agar (agarose). we got the concept from seagel but the process we used was that of the ten year old (william). the problem is we tried so many techniques on the supercritical drying but the structure we got collapsed and shrinked. how can we make the pressure rise while lowering the temperature? are we going to continue flow the Liq CO2 and lock all the valves while lowering the temperature? is that possible? the last time we tried it, the pressure still decreases. how can we make the pressure atleast constant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>question. we&#8217;re now doing a research on aerogel. instead of silica, we used agar (agarose). we got the concept from seagel but the process we used was that of the ten year old (william). the problem is we tried so many techniques on the supercritical drying but the structure we got collapsed and shrinked. how can we make the pressure rise while lowering the temperature? are we going to continue flow the Liq CO2 and lock all the valves while lowering the temperature? is that possible? the last time we tried it, the pressure still decreases. how can we make the pressure atleast constant.</p>
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		<title>By: kacey leavitt</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/03/23/make-your-own-aerogel/comment-page-1/#comment-77707</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kacey leavitt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that a ten year old could accomplish such a feat, because I am only 13, and have developed a formula to calculate the distance to the moon compared to the radius of the earth, and I have a made a break-through discovery on the study of perfect numbers, a study which has stumped the world&#039;s greatest mathematicians including Euclid and Mersenne for centuries!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that a ten year old could accomplish such a feat, because I am only 13, and have developed a formula to calculate the distance to the moon compared to the radius of the earth, and I have a made a break-through discovery on the study of perfect numbers, a study which has stumped the world&#8217;s greatest mathematicians including Euclid and Mersenne for centuries!</p>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/03/23/make-your-own-aerogel/comment-page-1/#comment-57189</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can buy rolls of aerogel insulation from Aspen Aerogels at http://www.aerogel.com for only a few dollars/square foot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can buy rolls of aerogel insulation from Aspen Aerogels at <a href="http://www.aerogel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.aerogel.com</a> for only a few dollars/square foot</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan Opinion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I need this material for several projects but have a modest income. More info is required on fabrication from home. Let us be realistic. Who can use little nickel sized blobs of it? I need real info: what does it feel like? Is it brittle, easily broken, flexible, explosive in a vacuum chamber (air bubbles escaping)? how can I make sheets of it? can it be cut with a blade or grinder? poisonous dust if so? inhalation dangers during fabrication?

I&#039;d like to line my house with this stuff, but not if it&#039;s gonna take a hundred years to make enough, or if all I get are little blobs I have to super glue together.  And how would I hang them in place in the wall hollows, with a simple drill, or do I need a phaser pistol? 

I don&#039;t mean to be rude or an ingrate, but serious minds need to know such things.

Can it be doped with other chems during fabrication to make it more flexible?  Again, toxicity?  Does anybody out there know?

If aerogel is fragile, why are the Israelis contemplating using it as a bullet proofing in vests?  They said it the vest is fairly flexible but it doesn&#039;t breathe well and gets unbearably hot inside.

I&#039;m getting differing opinions.  Need facts from someone who&#039;s touched it.

Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need this material for several projects but have a modest income. More info is required on fabrication from home. Let us be realistic. Who can use little nickel sized blobs of it? I need real info: what does it feel like? Is it brittle, easily broken, flexible, explosive in a vacuum chamber (air bubbles escaping)? how can I make sheets of it? can it be cut with a blade or grinder? poisonous dust if so? inhalation dangers during fabrication?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to line my house with this stuff, but not if it&#8217;s gonna take a hundred years to make enough, or if all I get are little blobs I have to super glue together.  And how would I hang them in place in the wall hollows, with a simple drill, or do I need a phaser pistol? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be rude or an ingrate, but serious minds need to know such things.</p>
<p>Can it be doped with other chems during fabrication to make it more flexible?  Again, toxicity?  Does anybody out there know?</p>
<p>If aerogel is fragile, why are the Israelis contemplating using it as a bullet proofing in vests?  They said it the vest is fairly flexible but it doesn&#8217;t breathe well and gets unbearably hot inside.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting differing opinions.  Need facts from someone who&#8217;s touched it.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Richard E Reed</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/03/23/make-your-own-aerogel/comment-page-1/#comment-48441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard E Reed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding souond insulation, aerogel is the most effective sound isolation substance known.  However, it is extremely expensive to make in large sizes.  If you are a billionaire you could afford to isolate  a room that way.  However, for the best effect the aerogel should be exopsed, and its fragility makes it impractical as a sound dampening wall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding souond insulation, aerogel is the most effective sound isolation substance known.  However, it is extremely expensive to make in large sizes.  If you are a billionaire you could afford to isolate  a room that way.  However, for the best effect the aerogel should be exopsed, and its fragility makes it impractical as a sound dampening wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard E Reed</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/03/23/make-your-own-aerogel/comment-page-1/#comment-48439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard E Reed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, here is the story of his previous aerogel science fair project with enough relevant pictures so you can be sure he did the work himself.

http://adzoe.8m.com/sf2002full.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, here is the story of his previous aerogel science fair project with enough relevant pictures so you can be sure he did the work himself.</p>
<p><a href="http://adzoe.8m.com/sf2002full.html" rel="nofollow">http://adzoe.8m.com/sf2002full.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adzoe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adzoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oofrab mistakes the older alcohol supercritical drying with liquid CO2 drying.  The temperatures and pressures are vastly different, and the quantities of alcohol involved different by several magnitudes.  William did his project in the yard, and the little alcohol in the sample simply evaporated and blew away.  There is no danger of such explosions drying aerogel by the CO2 process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oofrab mistakes the older alcohol supercritical drying with liquid CO2 drying.  The temperatures and pressures are vastly different, and the quantities of alcohol involved different by several magnitudes.  William did his project in the yard, and the little alcohol in the sample simply evaporated and blew away.  There is no danger of such explosions drying aerogel by the CO2 process.</p>
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		<title>By: Adzoe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adzoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The year before, William spent hundreds of hours reading around 100 web sites about aerogel, emailing universities and corporations about the stuff, receiving a handful of samples, including a 4&quot; disk, touring the plazas in Bakersfield to interview citizens, and preparing his report.  For this project, I, his &quot;big brother&quot; conceived the idea of making aerogel at home.  I consulted with him about how to design the mechanicals.  I had to request the Silbond, because the company would not send it to a minor.  I drove him around to the metal surplus yards where they advised him on schedule 80 pipe, fittings, valves, and gauges.  Many of these were donated.  He acquired the ammonium hydroxide and pure ethyl alcohol from Cal State Bakersfield, though I had to sign for it.

He made the raw gels and the alcohol baths.  I tightened the larger fittings because even with a 30&quot; pipe wrench pair he was not strong enough to seal them.  He did the work of temperature control with both ice in the first stage and hot water in the second.  Ice had to be applied a few times each hour, and hot water every few minutes to keep the temperatures first below then later above the required levels.  William did all the work at every stage.  I, however, also had to loosen the large pipe fittings after the process was completed.  Then William had fun spraying the remaining CO2 all over the yard, freezing weeds, and having fun.
I am not a college graduate, William&#039;s guardian is now 85 years old and lives in a hodgepodge of an old house.
In conclusion, while we collaborated on the design of the project, and I did the things not allowed for a minor, or that were physically beyond his strength, William did this project.  He had technical assistance from the University of Virginia, Aspen Aerogels, U Cal Berkeley, and NASA employees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The year before, William spent hundreds of hours reading around 100 web sites about aerogel, emailing universities and corporations about the stuff, receiving a handful of samples, including a 4&#8243; disk, touring the plazas in Bakersfield to interview citizens, and preparing his report.  For this project, I, his &#8220;big brother&#8221; conceived the idea of making aerogel at home.  I consulted with him about how to design the mechanicals.  I had to request the Silbond, because the company would not send it to a minor.  I drove him around to the metal surplus yards where they advised him on schedule 80 pipe, fittings, valves, and gauges.  Many of these were donated.  He acquired the ammonium hydroxide and pure ethyl alcohol from Cal State Bakersfield, though I had to sign for it.</p>
<p>He made the raw gels and the alcohol baths.  I tightened the larger fittings because even with a 30&#8243; pipe wrench pair he was not strong enough to seal them.  He did the work of temperature control with both ice in the first stage and hot water in the second.  Ice had to be applied a few times each hour, and hot water every few minutes to keep the temperatures first below then later above the required levels.  William did all the work at every stage.  I, however, also had to loosen the large pipe fittings after the process was completed.  Then William had fun spraying the remaining CO2 all over the yard, freezing weeds, and having fun.<br />
I am not a college graduate, William&#8217;s guardian is now 85 years old and lives in a hodgepodge of an old house.<br />
In conclusion, while we collaborated on the design of the project, and I did the things not allowed for a minor, or that were physically beyond his strength, William did this project.  He had technical assistance from the University of Virginia, Aspen Aerogels, U Cal Berkeley, and NASA employees.</p>
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