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		<title>By: The Man</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-566169</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i just wanna say charter gets a dick. if you have more than one computer and/or modem they wanna charge you twice like assholes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just wanna say charter gets a dick. if you have more than one computer and/or modem they wanna charge you twice like assholes.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-550896</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Use your localhost file (C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\) and put the IP address of the sites you visit the most often.  Chances are, there are going to be about 10 sites or so you visit all the time.  The computer will check the file first before asking Charter&#039;s DNS what the IP is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use your localhost file (C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\) and put the IP address of the sites you visit the most often.  Chances are, there are going to be about 10 sites or so you visit all the time.  The computer will check the file first before asking Charter&#8217;s DNS what the IP is.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35161</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think open dns fixes this situation.  Charter recently began prozxying all dns requests no matter which dns resolvers you specify.  Quite annoying, working for a dns company grom  home,  this sucks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think open dns fixes this situation.  Charter recently began prozxying all dns requests no matter which dns resolvers you specify.  Quite annoying, working for a dns company grom  home,  this sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Embarq is doing this in Vegas.  Made it a MAJOR pain in the ass searching for a server on our local network as anything you would ping would return an IP address. (figured on what was going on after a couple of minutes) This is messed up!!!  All in the name of hijacking bad page requests to get more revenue from their subscribers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Embarq is doing this in Vegas.  Made it a MAJOR pain in the ass searching for a server on our local network as anything you would ping would return an IP address. (figured on what was going on after a couple of minutes) This is messed up!!!  All in the name of hijacking bad page requests to get more revenue from their subscribers.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35159</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 06:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can someone get me the password to this email account? sonicx@charter.net&lt;br&gt;and send it to&lt;br&gt;hugdealer@hotmail.com&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s ok if it&#039;s impossible to thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone get me the password to this email account? <a href="mailto:sonicx@charter.net">sonicx@charter.net</a><br />and send it to<br /><a href="mailto:hugdealer@hotmail.com">hugdealer@hotmail.com</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s ok if it&#8217;s impossible to thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the opendns recommendation, guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the opendns recommendation, guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35157</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stuart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 00:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charter are not alone on this one.&lt;br&gt;TalkTalk Broadband in the UK do the same thing, we discovered this ourselves whilst trying to connect people using TalkTalk broadband onto our VPN as it totally f**ks up VPN users.&lt;br&gt;We suspected its a supposedly &#039;friendly&#039; feature which forwards people on to TalkTalks &#039;nicer&#039; looking helper page than your typical &#039;page not found&#039; error in IE, as every page would be DNS redirected to the nicer one. Totally unfriendly in reality when you try to do anything out of the ordinary-&lt;br&gt;Its actually a Windows VPN client oddity - ISP DNS lookups are still performed whilst connected to the VPN (to Microsoft ISA server at least), arguably normal behaviour. &lt;br&gt;So its important for ISP DNSs to fail unresolvable lookups normally, so that they are instead failed thru to the VPN provided DNS (our internal DNS servers). That way, staff can resolve addresses internal to our network (not exposed on the internet). &lt;br&gt;Either way, without this oddity, it just wouldn&#039;t be an issue. Typical MS really.&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charter are not alone on this one.<br />TalkTalk Broadband in the UK do the same thing, we discovered this ourselves whilst trying to connect people using TalkTalk broadband onto our VPN as it totally f**ks up VPN users.<br />We suspected its a supposedly &#8216;friendly&#8217; feature which forwards people on to TalkTalks &#8216;nicer&#8217; looking helper page than your typical &#8216;page not found&#8217; error in IE, as every page would be DNS redirected to the nicer one. Totally unfriendly in reality when you try to do anything out of the ordinary-<br />Its actually a Windows VPN client oddity &#8211; ISP DNS lookups are still performed whilst connected to the VPN (to Microsoft ISA server at least), arguably normal behaviour. <br />So its important for ISP DNSs to fail unresolvable lookups normally, so that they are instead failed thru to the VPN provided DNS (our internal DNS servers). That way, staff can resolve addresses internal to our network (not exposed on the internet). <br />Either way, without this oddity, it just wouldn&#8217;t be an issue. Typical MS really.</p>
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		<title>By: buzzkill</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buzzkill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OpenDNS is not an automatic fix.  If you get your google on, you will find that in some areas they intercept port 53 traffic and route to their own.  Also, opendns is slow as hell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OpenDNS is not an automatic fix.  If you get your google on, you will find that in some areas they intercept port 53 traffic and route to their own.  Also, opendns is slow as hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think openDNS only does that for http(s) requests. Normal stuff like your scripts should get the expected failure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think openDNS only does that for http(s) requests. Normal stuff like your scripts should get the expected failure.</p>
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		<title>By: ralph</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ralph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[opendns ???&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thats not a solution, its just an equivalent problem.  Try changing your dns lookup servers per their instructions.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now from a command prompt try: nslookup asdf.asdf.asdf&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TADA everything resolves to their servers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now in a browser try &lt;a href=&quot;http://asdf.asdf.asdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://asdf.asdf.asdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TADA you get a page with ads! YAY so much better than the EXACT same problem on charter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>opendns ???</p>
<p>Thats not a solution, its just an equivalent problem.  Try changing your dns lookup servers per their instructions.  </p>
<p>Now from a command prompt try: nslookup asdf.asdf.asdf</p>
<p>TADA everything resolves to their servers.</p>
<p>Now in a browser try <a href="http://asdf.asdf.asdf" rel="nofollow">http://asdf.asdf.asdf</a></p>
<p>TADA you get a page with ads! YAY so much better than the EXACT same problem on charter</p>
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		<title>By: Blind</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opendns.com/features/guide/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.opendns.com/features/guide/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since open DNS does the same thing, does it&#039;s op out work across the board or no?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.opendns.com/features/guide/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opendns.com/features/guide/</a></p>
<p>Since open DNS does the same thing, does it&#8217;s op out work across the board or no?</p>
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		<title>By: DietFig</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DietFig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good call on OpenDNS, I don&#039;t why I didn&#039;t think of that before.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call on OpenDNS, I don&#8217;t why I didn&#8217;t think of that before.</p>
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		<title>By: buzzkill</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35151</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buzzkill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charter &quot;communications&quot; sucks azz.  They have been pulling this **** for quite some time in my area.  And it only is worse with windows if you are trying to VPN to work because of the farked up retarded way that windows does dns resolution order.  So when I am trying to resolve a machine at work, charter intercepts the farcking request and gives their dumb freakin &quot;I think you are lost, child. Come into my gingerbread house of paid for advertisers so I can pillage your pockets&quot; instead of simply saying, &quot;umm .. I don&#039;t know&quot; so the DNS res can move on to the next interface so I can get my FREAKIN WORK DONE so I have more time to read Hack-A-Day!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charter &#8220;communications&#8221; sucks azz.  They have been pulling this **** for quite some time in my area.  And it only is worse with windows if you are trying to VPN to work because of the farked up retarded way that windows does dns resolution order.  So when I am trying to resolve a machine at work, charter intercepts the farcking request and gives their dumb freakin &#8220;I think you are lost, child. Come into my gingerbread house of paid for advertisers so I can pillage your pockets&#8221; instead of simply saying, &#8220;umm .. I don&#8217;t know&#8221; so the DNS res can move on to the next interface so I can get my FREAKIN WORK DONE so I have more time to read Hack-A-Day!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35150</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad I&#039;ve got Qwest ISP!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;ve got Qwest ISP!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ivan256</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/12/charter-screwing-with-dns/comment-page-1/#comment-35149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ivan256]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ryan, re: #2&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yeah, it&#039;s like that, except that the root servers actually know the answer. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ryan, re: #2</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s like that, except that the root servers actually know the answer. ;)</p>
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