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		<title>By: Solar Powered</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-92405</link>
		<dc:creator>Solar Powered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sick of wasting money on electric every month? Well I’m here to tell you there are products out there that can make it so you don’t have to. Michael Harvey would you like you to try his product, for under $200 you can build your own windmill and put solar panels right on your roof, to save you money and help the ecosystem!  Also you don’t need to know how to build a birdhouse to get this thing up and running, with the quick and easy installation guide you can have it going in no time. If you click this link and buy the product right now they are even offering  $150.00 off the final sale price, making it a cheap $49.97, what do you have to lose with prices that low, go green today! http://e4e085q8c-d08n43ecygir9o5e.hop.clickbank.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sick of wasting money on electric every month? Well I’m here to tell you there are products out there that can make it so you don’t have to. Michael Harvey would you like you to try his product, for under $200 you can build your own windmill and put solar panels right on your roof, to save you money and help the ecosystem!  Also you don’t need to know how to build a birdhouse to get this thing up and running, with the quick and easy installation guide you can have it going in no time. If you click this link and buy the product right now they are even offering  $150.00 off the final sale price, making it a cheap $49.97, what do you have to lose with prices that low, go green today! <a href="http://e4e085q8c-d08n43ecygir9o5e.hop.clickbank.net/" rel="nofollow">http://e4e085q8c-d08n43ecygir9o5e.hop.clickbank.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: home made wind generators</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-79445</link>
		<dc:creator>home made wind generators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neat post/ Will definitely visit again,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat post/ Will definitely visit again,</p>
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		<title>By: home made wind generators</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-79433</link>
		<dc:creator>home made wind generators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well written blog. Will visit soon=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written blog. Will visit soon=)</p>
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		<title>By: Earth4energy</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-63889</link>
		<dc:creator>Earth4energy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need products like Earth 4 energy to save some electricity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need products like Earth 4 energy to save some electricity</p>
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		<title>By: Build Solar Panels</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-53736</link>
		<dc:creator>Build Solar Panels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s actually pretty easy and cost-effective to build solar panels and windmills to convert your home to solar energy. &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://earth4energy-solarhome.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Make your own solar panels and windmills&lt;/A&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s actually pretty easy and cost-effective to build solar panels and windmills to convert your home to solar energy. <a HREF="http://earth4energy-solarhome.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Make your own solar panels and windmills</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: Alek</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-35954</link>
		<dc:creator>Alek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s not cost effective to go solar, but it is cost effective to build solar. it&#039;s not possible to convert all of the electricity in your house to solar power. but if you build a house with solar panels you can since all of the wiring can be routed to the panels. my dad wants to build a completely self-sufficient house with filtered, reclaimed water and solar power</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s not cost effective to go solar, but it is cost effective to build solar. it&#8217;s not possible to convert all of the electricity in your house to solar power. but if you build a house with solar panels you can since all of the wiring can be routed to the panels. my dad wants to build a completely self-sufficient house with filtered, reclaimed water and solar power</p>
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		<title>By: Thebes</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-35953</link>
		<dc:creator>Thebes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, I know people who have been using the same solar panels for over 20 years. So long as they do not succumb to hail or wind damage, they seem to last forever. Over time there is a slight reduction in output.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, I know people who have been using the same solar panels for over 20 years. So long as they do not succumb to hail or wind damage, they seem to last forever. Over time there is a slight reduction in output.</p>
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		<title>By: Thebes</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-35952</link>
		<dc:creator>Thebes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I life off-grid with solar power. I have set up four separate photovoltaic systems. The way this was done was absurd, and obviously in the best interests of the contractor rather than the person paying for it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The FIRST thing to do in setting up any solar home is to determine its actual energy needs based upon the best allocation of resources. For example, this guy could probably have saved 10-15 THOUSAND dollars by purchasing a high efficiency refrigerator, like a SunFrost... even &quot;Energy Star&quot; refrigerators are horribly ineffecient.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Depending upon the amount of sun one&#039;s home receives it should be possible to power a home which has no electric heating appliances for $10-$20 thousand total. I know many people, including myself, who get by with much, much less.... my entire off-grid system will come out under $6k with the fridge (I am currently on a propane fridge).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I life off-grid with solar power. I have set up four separate photovoltaic systems. The way this was done was absurd, and obviously in the best interests of the contractor rather than the person paying for it.</p>
<p>The FIRST thing to do in setting up any solar home is to determine its actual energy needs based upon the best allocation of resources. For example, this guy could probably have saved 10-15 THOUSAND dollars by purchasing a high efficiency refrigerator, like a SunFrost&#8230; even &#8220;Energy Star&#8221; refrigerators are horribly ineffecient.</p>
<p>Depending upon the amount of sun one&#8217;s home receives it should be possible to power a home which has no electric heating appliances for $10-$20 thousand total. I know many people, including myself, who get by with much, much less&#8230;. my entire off-grid system will come out under $6k with the fridge (I am currently on a propane fridge).</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-35951</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>twistedsymphony - here&#039;s your answer:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.solarhouse.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.solarhouse.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The guy gets most of his heating from solar thermal panels and radiant floor heat loops, and he lives in Maine.  He also gets most of his electricity from solar PV.  I plan on doing exactly what he did soon.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyone interested in adding solar thermal/PV should check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.homepower.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.homepower.com&lt;/a&gt;  I&#039;ve been a subscriber for a few years now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>twistedsymphony &#8211; here&#8217;s your answer:  <a href="http://www.solarhouse.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.solarhouse.com/</a></p>
<p>The guy gets most of his heating from solar thermal panels and radiant floor heat loops, and he lives in Maine.  He also gets most of his electricity from solar PV.  I plan on doing exactly what he did soon.</p>
<p>Anyone interested in adding solar thermal/PV should check out <a href="http://www.homepower.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.homepower.com</a>  I&#8217;ve been a subscriber for a few years now.</p>
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		<title>By: twistedsymphony</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-35950</link>
		<dc:creator>twistedsymphony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m much more interested in Solar Heat. I live in NH and  despite the amount of electricity I waste my total costs are only about $1200 a year for electric. $30 a month is  a straight up service fee for the privlage of using electricity off the grid and another $20 in taxes, really I only use $40 worth of electricity month after month.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oil for home heat and hot water runs me close to $6K a year, and that&#039;s going up by the day. Show me a solar heating system that can reduce my oil usage (particularly in the winter) and give me a good ROI...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m much more interested in Solar Heat. I live in NH and  despite the amount of electricity I waste my total costs are only about $1200 a year for electric. $30 a month is  a straight up service fee for the privlage of using electricity off the grid and another $20 in taxes, really I only use $40 worth of electricity month after month.</p>
<p>Oil for home heat and hot water runs me close to $6K a year, and that&#8217;s going up by the day. Show me a solar heating system that can reduce my oil usage (particularly in the winter) and give me a good ROI&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: obm</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-35949</link>
		<dc:creator>obm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 10:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are the solar panels so green to manufacture? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is the point in installing them, if they are polluting the environment much more than using the grid? (Think about the huge amount of energy required to obtain defect free crystalline silicon, and the chemicals involved in the cleaning process of sand).  Not more than one or two years ago, people were trying hard to get %40-50 in energy gained/energy lost in production ratio, even with best case scenarios (i.e. crystalline Si used in CPU manufacture etc.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think in order to go really green, biogas generators (for farms with lots of animals) or solar heat transfer mechanisms (like solar water heaters on rooftops that are highly popular around here, or water circulation based generators feeding from panel heaters if you have a huge field) should be considered. Especially the panels are quite easy to manufacture yourself, some black paint two layers of glass, an aluminum box for the whole setup, some PVC piping and you are ready to go, just calculate the optimal incline/heading depending on your location and add a hot water container. It is too early for the domestic use of Si Solar Panels. But with the increased funding to nanotechnology something will come up soon, I am quite optimistic about graphene defect based trap devices.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;P.S. You do not need to clean dust off the standard two glass heat capture solar panels used in water heating, the difference is not worth the effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are the solar panels so green to manufacture? </p>
<p>What is the point in installing them, if they are polluting the environment much more than using the grid? (Think about the huge amount of energy required to obtain defect free crystalline silicon, and the chemicals involved in the cleaning process of sand).  Not more than one or two years ago, people were trying hard to get %40-50 in energy gained/energy lost in production ratio, even with best case scenarios (i.e. crystalline Si used in CPU manufacture etc.)</p>
<p>I think in order to go really green, biogas generators (for farms with lots of animals) or solar heat transfer mechanisms (like solar water heaters on rooftops that are highly popular around here, or water circulation based generators feeding from panel heaters if you have a huge field) should be considered. Especially the panels are quite easy to manufacture yourself, some black paint two layers of glass, an aluminum box for the whole setup, some PVC piping and you are ready to go, just calculate the optimal incline/heading depending on your location and add a hot water container. It is too early for the domestic use of Si Solar Panels. But with the increased funding to nanotechnology something will come up soon, I am quite optimistic about graphene defect based trap devices.  </p>
<p>P.S. You do not need to clean dust off the standard two glass heat capture solar panels used in water heating, the difference is not worth the effort.</p>
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		<title>By: monster</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/05/29/what-it-takes-to-go-solar/comment-page-1/#comment-35948</link>
		<dc:creator>monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 06:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but to be fair AlpacaLips, if your costs are that much lower than his, you&#039;d need a proportionately smaller setup right? if i did my math right your setup (assuming everything is equally cheaper, but i&#039;m sure the regulators and such are static costs) your setup would be somewhere near $7900.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you also have to consider, if you did get a setup that big, a lot of states/cities/counties have rebates for putting power into the grid. whatever you don&#039;t use would go back into the grid, and in california at least, you&#039;ll get a check in the mail for it. it&#039;s a lot like being a tiny powerplant, and i&#039;m pretty sure you&#039;re paid for what you put into the grid at the same rate others pay to take it out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;so you could go either way, you could get the same size setup as this guy did, and not only cover your energy costs, but get rebates for covering others energy costs; or you could get a smaller setup that covers your power usage the same percent amount as the guy in the article, for a grand total that is less than he spent&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;does that make sense? i feel like i didn&#039;t communicate it clearly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but to be fair AlpacaLips, if your costs are that much lower than his, you&#8217;d need a proportionately smaller setup right? if i did my math right your setup (assuming everything is equally cheaper, but i&#8217;m sure the regulators and such are static costs) your setup would be somewhere near $7900.</p>
<p>you also have to consider, if you did get a setup that big, a lot of states/cities/counties have rebates for putting power into the grid. whatever you don&#8217;t use would go back into the grid, and in california at least, you&#8217;ll get a check in the mail for it. it&#8217;s a lot like being a tiny powerplant, and i&#8217;m pretty sure you&#8217;re paid for what you put into the grid at the same rate others pay to take it out.</p>
<p>so you could go either way, you could get the same size setup as this guy did, and not only cover your energy costs, but get rebates for covering others energy costs; or you could get a smaller setup that covers your power usage the same percent amount as the guy in the article, for a grand total that is less than he spent</p>
<p>does that make sense? i feel like i didn&#8217;t communicate it clearly</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 06:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Ciarcia recently documented his entire PV installation over three or four issues of Circuit Cellar Ink.  Very interesting.  Very expensive, but very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Ciarcia recently documented his entire PV installation over three or four issues of Circuit Cellar Ink.  Very interesting.  Very expensive, but very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: monster</title>
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		<dc:creator>monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 06:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>something tells me mike gross works for that company... maybe it&#039;s the two posts recommending the same place</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>something tells me mike gross works for that company&#8230; maybe it&#8217;s the two posts recommending the same place</p>
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		<title>By: spacer</title>
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		<dc:creator>spacer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 06:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The math looks incorrect. He says he has Time of use metering but an electro-mechanical meter is not capable of this. His new solid state meter will but I doubt he is always paying .25 cents a KWH. I would also figure in what the investment of that kind of cash would do even in a bank with a half decent rate over a nine year period.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The math looks incorrect. He says he has Time of use metering but an electro-mechanical meter is not capable of this. His new solid state meter will but I doubt he is always paying .25 cents a KWH. I would also figure in what the investment of that kind of cash would do even in a bank with a half decent rate over a nine year period.</p>
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