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	<title>Comments on: Logic probe kit</title>
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		<title>By: Eldon Fasci</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-218810</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eldon Fasci]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 00:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NOBAMA</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-86912</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is WAY too complicated and power-hungry for a logic probe with this level of functionality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is WAY too complicated and power-hungry for a logic probe with this level of functionality.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-80309</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thoughtful post and well written. Please write more on this if you have time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughtful post and well written. Please write more on this if you have time.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis123123</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-37938</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thankyou wolf! Ill give that a go :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou wolf! Ill give that a go :)</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-37937</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@dennis&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Basically, you just connect the emitter of a common npn transistor (like a pn2222a) to the probe batteries ground, connect an led and a current limiting resistor in series between the transistors collector and the batteries positive terminal (with the led&#039;s plus side attached to the battery),  then attach a second, high value resistor between the transistors base and the logic probe.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The resistor values will depend on the voltage your probes running on, and the voltage you want it to detect, but for a 9v battery and signals above 2v a 470ohm current limiting resistor, and 20k probe would put the max current through the led at 19ma, and keep the current through the probe to less than 1ma. If you wanted to, you could probably go with even higher resistance on the probe and still keep the transistor saturated, but the highest my pot goes is 20k.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If anyone sees that I&#039;m mistaken on any of this feel free to correct me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dennis</p>
<p>Basically, you just connect the emitter of a common npn transistor (like a pn2222a) to the probe batteries ground, connect an led and a current limiting resistor in series between the transistors collector and the batteries positive terminal (with the led&#8217;s plus side attached to the battery),  then attach a second, high value resistor between the transistors base and the logic probe.</p>
<p>The resistor values will depend on the voltage your probes running on, and the voltage you want it to detect, but for a 9v battery and signals above 2v a 470ohm current limiting resistor, and 20k probe would put the max current through the led at 19ma, and keep the current through the probe to less than 1ma. If you wanted to, you could probably go with even higher resistance on the probe and still keep the transistor saturated, but the highest my pot goes is 20k.</p>
<p>If anyone sees that I&#8217;m mistaken on any of this feel free to correct me.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-37936</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A 9V battery to 7805 linear regulator is a really bad idea. It will burn that extra 4V off as heat and it will constantly leak about 2-3ma of current. You&#039;ll be replacing that battery a lot. Find a LDO regulator with a low Iq (quiescent current).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 9V battery to 7805 linear regulator is a really bad idea. It will burn that extra 4V off as heat and it will constantly leak about 2-3ma of current. You&#8217;ll be replacing that battery a lot. Find a LDO regulator with a low Iq (quiescent current).</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-37935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Wolf (post 3)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Would you mind sharing how those few components make a working logic probe? I had a google and only came up with IC based designs :(&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ty!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wolf (post 3)</p>
<p>Would you mind sharing how those few components make a working logic probe? I had a google and only came up with IC based designs :(</p>
<p>Ty!</p>
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		<title>By: chr0n1c</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-37934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chr0n1c]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[amazing that they did it all without any syringes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amazing that they did it all without any syringes!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-37933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps I got the wrong vibe by the end of the synopsis. &quot;Of course, the resulting device is not as versatile as a LogicPort logic analyzer, but it is still useful.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve owned the logic analyzer from intronix for a few years. I also own a micronta logic probe, HP Logic Dart, and a Fluke 123 scope meter.  Each has its own. And to give the logic probes a little more respect. All these tools are great for their intention. But a logic probe has a place too. The logic analyzer, Logic Dart and Scopemeter take far too long to setup for most quickies. A logic probe gets powered and references signals. visual and audible indications are great and there is not setup over head. I once repaired a pinball controll board using only a logic probe- This was the eye opener that each tool does infact have a very special place in terms of use. Within 5 mins the pinball machine was working.  It would have taken that long to setup the other instruments consider the broad range of pins and various signals that needed to be checked.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t take this the wrong way either. The logic port is an excellent tool. But it should not be compared to a logic probe. Apples and Oranges anyone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I got the wrong vibe by the end of the synopsis. &#8220;Of course, the resulting device is not as versatile as a LogicPort logic analyzer, but it is still useful.&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve owned the logic analyzer from intronix for a few years. I also own a micronta logic probe, HP Logic Dart, and a Fluke 123 scope meter.  Each has its own. And to give the logic probes a little more respect. All these tools are great for their intention. But a logic probe has a place too. The logic analyzer, Logic Dart and Scopemeter take far too long to setup for most quickies. A logic probe gets powered and references signals. visual and audible indications are great and there is not setup over head. I once repaired a pinball controll board using only a logic probe- This was the eye opener that each tool does infact have a very special place in terms of use. Within 5 mins the pinball machine was working.  It would have taken that long to setup the other instruments consider the broad range of pins and various signals that needed to be checked.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take this the wrong way either. The logic port is an excellent tool. But it should not be compared to a logic probe. Apples and Oranges anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-37932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 05:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NIce little project you have put together.Thanks, regards Colin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NIce little project you have put together.Thanks, regards Colin</p>
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		<title>By: wolf</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-37931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So basically, whoever created this has managed to take a device that can be built with an led, 2 resistors, a transistor, and a battery, and created a version thats larger, costs more, is more labor intensive to build, and offers exactly the same functionality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Am I missing something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically, whoever created this has managed to take a device that can be built with an led, 2 resistors, a transistor, and a battery, and created a version thats larger, costs more, is more labor intensive to build, and offers exactly the same functionality.</p>
<p>Am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Batman</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/06/27/logic-probe-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-37930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Batman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[simple and effective, but I&#039;d think a bicolor led would cost less than the 7-seg. The 7805 will probably drain the 9v batt in no time and get hot doing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simple and effective, but I&#8217;d think a bicolor led would cost less than the 7-seg. The 7805 will probably drain the 9v batt in no time and get hot doing it.</p>
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