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	<title>Comments on: 12 channel LiFe battery management system</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Anderson</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/04/12-channel-life-battery-management-system/comment-page-1/#comment-99235</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LiFepo4 cells have about 25% lower capacity by weight, yes. But they are not nearly as volitile as Li-poly or LiCoO2 cylindricals, or derivatives, and can be re-charged well over 1000 times, in 70% DOD applications over 2000 times. LiCoO2 cells are typically under 80% of original capacity by the 300 charge point. They are very tolerant of abuse conditions that cause thermal runaway and subsequent violent ignition of their Cobalt cousins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LiFepo4 cells have about 25% lower capacity by weight, yes. But they are not nearly as volitile as Li-poly or LiCoO2 cylindricals, or derivatives, and can be re-charged well over 1000 times, in 70% DOD applications over 2000 times. LiCoO2 cells are typically under 80% of original capacity by the 300 charge point. They are very tolerant of abuse conditions that cause thermal runaway and subsequent violent ignition of their Cobalt cousins.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/04/12-channel-life-battery-management-system/comment-page-1/#comment-38346</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me, but lithium polymer (lifepo4) cells do *not* have all the advantages of lithium ion.  Yes, they&#039;re safer, but they also have lower capacity for a given volume.  If I&#039;m wrong, please post links to where such cells can be found.  For comparison, check out the various cells in the 18650 size (or 4/3 AA).  Basically the 18mm dia by 65mm long cylindricals.  I find the polymers to be around the same cost, but the max capacities are around half of those of similarly sized ion cells.  I&#039;d like to be wrong about this, so please enlighten.  -M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, but lithium polymer (lifepo4) cells do *not* have all the advantages of lithium ion.  Yes, they&#8217;re safer, but they also have lower capacity for a given volume.  If I&#8217;m wrong, please post links to where such cells can be found.  For comparison, check out the various cells in the 18650 size (or 4/3 AA).  Basically the 18mm dia by 65mm long cylindricals.  I find the polymers to be around the same cost, but the max capacities are around half of those of similarly sized ion cells.  I&#8217;d like to be wrong about this, so please enlighten.  -M</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/04/12-channel-life-battery-management-system/comment-page-1/#comment-38345</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaanndd... the all-lowercase CSS bug bites again!  I was going to post a comment &quot;I think you mean &#039;battery life management&#039;, not &#039;life battery management&#039;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it a test -- if you&#039;re not running Greasemonkey and capable of writing your own userscript to disable the CSS, you don&#039;t deserve HAD?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaanndd&#8230; the all-lowercase CSS bug bites again!  I was going to post a comment &#8220;I think you mean &#8216;battery life management&#8217;, not &#8216;life battery management&#8217;.</p>
<p>Is it a test &#8212; if you&#8217;re not running Greasemonkey and capable of writing your own userscript to disable the CSS, you don&#8217;t deserve HAD?</p>
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		<title>By: arthur92710</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/04/12-channel-life-battery-management-system/comment-page-1/#comment-38344</link>
		<dc:creator>arthur92710</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@number2&lt;br&gt;its not life its LiFe, you should know, right, cuss you know the periodic table</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@number2<br />its not life its LiFe, you should know, right, cuss you know the periodic table</p>
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		<title>By: ed3</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google for lifepo4. They&#039;ve been in the works for a few years now. All the benefits of traditional lithium, none of the exploding when punctured. Made of very common materials and completely recyclable. Tricky part is monitoring and charging.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;www.lionev.com is using lifepo4 batteries to convert factory ford rangers to ev. They also make several kits to convert hybrids to full plug-in electrics for around $4000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google for lifepo4. They&#8217;ve been in the works for a few years now. All the benefits of traditional lithium, none of the exploding when punctured. Made of very common materials and completely recyclable. Tricky part is monitoring and charging.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lionev.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lionev.com</a> is using lifepo4 batteries to convert factory ford rangers to ev. They also make several kits to convert hybrids to full plug-in electrics for around $4000.</p>
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		<title>By: alex mccown</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/04/12-channel-life-battery-management-system/comment-page-1/#comment-38342</link>
		<dc:creator>alex mccown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>li-ion i\is my fav battery for slow drain devices but i still am a fan of ni-cd and wetpack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>li-ion i\is my fav battery for slow drain devices but i still am a fan of ni-cd and wetpack</p>
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		<title>By: xyphur</title>
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		<dc:creator>xyphur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, lithium iron. No, not terribly new. hence the &#039;life&#039; in the title. li for lithium, fe for iron. a) pay attention to the ongoing developments in battery tech, and b) go and study the periodic table instead of assuming a typo occurred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, lithium iron. No, not terribly new. hence the &#8216;life&#8217; in the title. li for lithium, fe for iron. a) pay attention to the ongoing developments in battery tech, and b) go and study the periodic table instead of assuming a typo occurred.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lithium Iron?  Must be something new.  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lithium Iron?  Must be something new.  LOL</p>
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