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		<title>By: Houston Air Conditioning</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-98348</link>
		<dc:creator>Houston Air Conditioning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow ! potable Air conditioner will be very useful in picnic in the summer season . Thanks for information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow ! potable Air conditioner will be very useful in picnic in the summer season . Thanks for information.</p>
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		<title>By: Portable Air Conditioners</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-62150</link>
		<dc:creator>Portable Air Conditioners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice post. Thank you!</description>
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		<title>By: air conditioner lg.com</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-58648</link>
		<dc:creator>air conditioner lg.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kvmanil, thanks for the story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kvmanil, thanks for the story</p>
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		<title>By: ranjitindia</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-38722</link>
		<dc:creator>ranjitindia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all said and done.. I am bit not happy about refilling the thing with ice every now and then.. how about a peltier device... i know it eats amps but atleast its free of such hassles.. maybe a peltier couple with ice would ensure that the ice doesn&#039;t melt that fast...&lt;br&gt;I contact one guy in ebay.in selling 90watt peltier module for about 40 dollars..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all said and done.. I am bit not happy about refilling the thing with ice every now and then.. how about a peltier device&#8230; i know it eats amps but atleast its free of such hassles.. maybe a peltier couple with ice would ensure that the ice doesn&#8217;t melt that fast&#8230;<br />I contact one guy in ebay.in selling 90watt peltier module for about 40 dollars..</p>
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		<title>By: FlyingAvatar</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-38721</link>
		<dc:creator>FlyingAvatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@james,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many geothermal systems work this way.  You dig a well in your yard, heat exchange the air with the cooler water that you pump out (always about 50-60 deg F) and pump the warm stuff back down.  That way, you&#039;re not wasting tons of water.  The cool part is that it works in both the summer and the winter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@james,</p>
<p>Many geothermal systems work this way.  You dig a well in your yard, heat exchange the air with the cooler water that you pump out (always about 50-60 deg F) and pump the warm stuff back down.  That way, you&#8217;re not wasting tons of water.  The cool part is that it works in both the summer and the winter.</p>
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		<title>By: Orv</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-38720</link>
		<dc:creator>Orv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@8: Dry ice would work well, but you&#039;d have to be careful about the CO2 if you were using it in a confined space.  It would suck to suffocate yourself with your own air conditioner.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@8: Dry ice would work well, but you&#8217;d have to be careful about the CO2 if you were using it in a confined space.  It would suck to suffocate yourself with your own air conditioner.</p>
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		<title>By: kvmanii</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-38719</link>
		<dc:creator>kvmanii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about dry ice... &lt;br&gt;here is a story..&lt;br&gt;Itâs funny when face with problem on a tight budget, and a minimal solution arises.&lt;br&gt;This reminds me of my bachelor days in college, I lived in a city flat on the top floor of a poorly insulated 100 year old building, I bought a huge rubber maid tub from a department store, and put a box in side of it, the box acted like a table with the height of the brim of the giant rubber maid tub. I also went to taco bell a lot and couldnât bring my self to toss out the plastic cups, being a bachelor there was plenty of space in the freezer so I would fill the cups up with water, let them freeze, then stack them on the box in side the table with a card board enclosure and hit a house fan on it. Now it cooled the area in front of it and the ice only lasted an hour or two dripping and filling the tub, I bought a window unit and tada it worked ten times better than my poor mans hack, moral of the story cut out the taco bell and buy a window unit â¦in my case that isâ¦.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about dry ice&#8230; <br />here is a story..<br />Itâs funny when face with problem on a tight budget, and a minimal solution arises.<br />This reminds me of my bachelor days in college, I lived in a city flat on the top floor of a poorly insulated 100 year old building, I bought a huge rubber maid tub from a department store, and put a box in side of it, the box acted like a table with the height of the brim of the giant rubber maid tub. I also went to taco bell a lot and couldnât bring my self to toss out the plastic cups, being a bachelor there was plenty of space in the freezer so I would fill the cups up with water, let them freeze, then stack them on the box in side the table with a card board enclosure and hit a house fan on it. Now it cooled the area in front of it and the ice only lasted an hour or two dripping and filling the tub, I bought a window unit and tada it worked ten times better than my poor mans hack, moral of the story cut out the taco bell and buy a window unit â¦in my case that isâ¦.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-38718</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be awesome if you could build a unit like this that automatically changes the heat-sink water.  Maybe a second pump, or just a controlled outlet hooked to a garden hose, so the warm water is carried away by gravity?  I don&#039;t know about you guys, but around here water is dirt cheap (pennies per hundred gallons); even if it took a hundred gallons a day to carry away waste heat, it would probably be more efficient even than my central heat pump/AC unit... hrm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be awesome if you could build a unit like this that automatically changes the heat-sink water.  Maybe a second pump, or just a controlled outlet hooked to a garden hose, so the warm water is carried away by gravity?  I don&#8217;t know about you guys, but around here water is dirt cheap (pennies per hundred gallons); even if it took a hundred gallons a day to carry away waste heat, it would probably be more efficient even than my central heat pump/AC unit&#8230; hrm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: garrett</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-38717</link>
		<dc:creator>garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@andrew: really? Okay...&lt;br&gt;Step 1, Image 2&lt;br&gt;Step 2, Image 1,2,3&lt;br&gt;Step 3, Image 1,2&lt;br&gt;Step 6, Image 2&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All images where the radiator is visible...also, the parts list is spelled out in Step 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@andrew: really? Okay&#8230;<br />Step 1, Image 2<br />Step 2, Image 1,2,3<br />Step 3, Image 1,2<br />Step 6, Image 2</p>
<p>All images where the radiator is visible&#8230;also, the parts list is spelled out in Step 1.</p>
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		<title>By: darus67</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-38716</link>
		<dc:creator>darus67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 05:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A unit like this may not have much advantage over a &lt;br&gt;window unit, but they are useful if you don&#039;t have&lt;br&gt;electricity or in mobile situations where the vehicle&lt;br&gt;doesn&#039;t have air conditioning of its own.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They sell commercially built units like this to pilots&lt;br&gt;for use in small airplanes.&lt;br&gt;See: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&amp;did=19&amp;product_id=10784&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&amp;did=19&amp;product_id=10784&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;for an example.&lt;br&gt;In that case I&#039;d much rather spend $100 on parts than to spend between $500 and $600 for a commmercial solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A unit like this may not have much advantage over a <br />window unit, but they are useful if you don&#8217;t have<br />electricity or in mobile situations where the vehicle<br />doesn&#8217;t have air conditioning of its own.</p>
<p>They sell commercially built units like this to pilots<br />for use in small airplanes.<br />See: <a href="http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&#038;did=19&#038;product_id=10784" rel="nofollow">http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&#038;did=19&#038;product_id=10784</a><br />for an example.<br />In that case I&#8217;d much rather spend $100 on parts than to spend between $500 and $600 for a commmercial solution.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-38715</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@garrett: where is the radiator?  I see a fan blowing into a cooler filled with ice packs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@garrett: where is the radiator?  I see a fan blowing into a cooler filled with ice packs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Y</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/10/portable-air-conditioner/comment-page-1/#comment-38714</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had considered a recirculating-water cooling device (cool water flows through copper pipe/heat exchanger then back into cooler, meanwhile fan blows across heat exchanger).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, unless you have all of the things needed to make it, or you just do not have any way to do a window airconditioner, it is probably not worth it.  A submersible water pump is $20-30, cooler (unless it is a super-cheap styrofoam one) is $10-$20, a heater core/radiator/oil cooler from a junkyard is $10-$30.  Throw in some tubing for connections and a fan (or some fans) and you&#039;d be hard pressed to beat the $90 window units.  Especially when you throw in the fact that you still need to add ice and dispose of the warm water.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wish someone would make a cheapy little ac unit, like a space heater but for cooling.  I know, removing heat is harder than adding it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, and for those who have/are going to build their own recirculating-water cooling device, have you considered using the blue-ice cooler things?  Less water to get rid of.  Or you can make your own with tupperware, with rubbing alcohol and water (1:2 ratio).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had considered a recirculating-water cooling device (cool water flows through copper pipe/heat exchanger then back into cooler, meanwhile fan blows across heat exchanger).</p>
<p>But, unless you have all of the things needed to make it, or you just do not have any way to do a window airconditioner, it is probably not worth it.  A submersible water pump is $20-30, cooler (unless it is a super-cheap styrofoam one) is $10-$20, a heater core/radiator/oil cooler from a junkyard is $10-$30.  Throw in some tubing for connections and a fan (or some fans) and you&#8217;d be hard pressed to beat the $90 window units.  Especially when you throw in the fact that you still need to add ice and dispose of the warm water.</p>
<p>I wish someone would make a cheapy little ac unit, like a space heater but for cooling.  I know, removing heat is harder than adding it.</p>
<p>Oh, and for those who have/are going to build their own recirculating-water cooling device, have you considered using the blue-ice cooler things?  Less water to get rid of.  Or you can make your own with tupperware, with rubbing alcohol and water (1:2 ratio).</p>
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		<title>By: garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay...but as the linked article clearly shows, this is not a swamp cooler, juan. There are photos of a radiator which has a fan blowing through it, and the pump is circulating ice-water through the radiator. It doesn&#039;t use water evaporation, like a swamp cooler does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230;but as the linked article clearly shows, this is not a swamp cooler, juan. There are photos of a radiator which has a fan blowing through it, and the pump is circulating ice-water through the radiator. It doesn&#8217;t use water evaporation, like a swamp cooler does.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The added humidity of an evaporative cooler is actually an advantage in some climates.  Just ask any Arizona native like myself. If the humidity is so high as to be uncomfortable this type of unit is unlikely to be very effective, you just do not get much evaporation and cooling effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The added humidity of an evaporative cooler is actually an advantage in some climates.  Just ask any Arizona native like myself. If the humidity is so high as to be uncomfortable this type of unit is unlikely to be very effective, you just do not get much evaporation and cooling effect.</p>
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		<title>By: redfireant3</title>
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		<dc:creator>redfireant3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>try a hand full of salt with ice and water, cools faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>try a hand full of salt with ice and water, cools faster.</p>
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