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	<title>Comments on: Ard-e: Cheap Arduino robot platform</title>
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		<title>By: garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently bought an Arduino to test out some code for my customers. I actually find it pretty useful; what it boils down to is an ATmega with easy-access headers and a bootloader that works with an onboard USB converter. Instead of a snarl of cables and programmers and breadboards, I can do AVR development with a single board plugged into a laptop USB port. I&#039;d say the convenience is worth the $33. And the software is just a fancy wrapper for GCC, everything compiles to native code and runs quickly. This means you can actually get 12 MIPS instead of a few KHz like the Stamp.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Naturally, I use a plain ATmega or ATTiny in a final, single purpose project. But the Arduino is a painless way to test out some concepts without shuffling cables around each time you download some new code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently bought an Arduino to test out some code for my customers. I actually find it pretty useful; what it boils down to is an ATmega with easy-access headers and a bootloader that works with an onboard USB converter. Instead of a snarl of cables and programmers and breadboards, I can do AVR development with a single board plugged into a laptop USB port. I&#8217;d say the convenience is worth the $33. And the software is just a fancy wrapper for GCC, everything compiles to native code and runs quickly. This means you can actually get 12 MIPS instead of a few KHz like the Stamp.</p>
<p>Naturally, I use a plain ATmega or ATTiny in a final, single purpose project. But the Arduino is a painless way to test out some concepts without shuffling cables around each time you download some new code.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I&#039;m dissing the arduino but but I never got into them because I use real AVRs the arduino is like a basic stamp for avrs instead of pics it&#039;s very popular because it&#039;s open but almost every project I see using an arduino could be done cheaper using an avr. an atmel atmega168 can run anything an arduino can because that&#039;s what an arduino is. the c compiler is free and open and the usb programmer was about $23 so I guess I always saw the arduino as kind of gimicky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I&#8217;m dissing the arduino but but I never got into them because I use real AVRs the arduino is like a basic stamp for avrs instead of pics it&#8217;s very popular because it&#8217;s open but almost every project I see using an arduino could be done cheaper using an avr. an atmel atmega168 can run anything an arduino can because that&#8217;s what an arduino is. the c compiler is free and open and the usb programmer was about $23 so I guess I always saw the arduino as kind of gimicky.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Iseman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Iseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went with the Arduino for Ard-e because I have no experience at all with programming. The tutorials and sample codes found online made it possible for me to accomplish this project. Eventually i&#039;ll move onto more advanced micro controllers as the projects i attempt get harder but the Arduino is perfect as an intro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went with the Arduino for Ard-e because I have no experience at all with programming. The tutorials and sample codes found online made it possible for me to accomplish this project. Eventually i&#8217;ll move onto more advanced micro controllers as the projects i attempt get harder but the Arduino is perfect as an intro.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing against Arduino love, but how about some other platforms?  The Basic stamp has been around for ever, and there&#039;s many platforms available with a free C compiler (i.e. most of the pics, msp430).  A lot of these have an evaluation kit for $50 or less, and many you can build yourself with a handful of parts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even an occasional Lego Mindstorm hack would be cool.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Besides, I recommend learning at least some assembly language on a micro controller to ANY programmer.  It gives you a real appreciation of just how much easier things are with a higher level language, and it teaches you to write tighter code.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing against Arduino love, but how about some other platforms?  The Basic stamp has been around for ever, and there&#8217;s many platforms available with a free C compiler (i.e. most of the pics, msp430).  A lot of these have an evaluation kit for $50 or less, and many you can build yourself with a handful of parts.</p>
<p>Even an occasional Lego Mindstorm hack would be cool.</p>
<p>Besides, I recommend learning at least some assembly language on a micro controller to ANY programmer.  It gives you a real appreciation of just how much easier things are with a higher level language, and it teaches you to write tighter code.</p>
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		<title>By: firetech</title>
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		<dc:creator>firetech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool cheap hack... I love the cheaper hacks!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Speaking of the Arduino... Can we get a hacks column on the right for all the projects that use the Arduino? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know there seem to be a fair amount of them lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool cheap hack&#8230; I love the cheaper hacks!!</p>
<p>Speaking of the Arduino&#8230; Can we get a hacks column on the right for all the projects that use the Arduino? </p>
<p>I know there seem to be a fair amount of them lately.</p>
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