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	<title>Comments on: How-To: Etch a single sided PCB</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-97115</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made some PCBs several years ago using a vinyl sign cutter. I just used the vinyl itself as etch resist.

If this link doesn&#039;t work, click on my name.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/files/Sign_Cutter_to_make_PCBs/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made some PCBs several years ago using a vinyl sign cutter. I just used the vinyl itself as etch resist.</p>
<p>If this link doesn&#8217;t work, click on my name.</p>
<p><a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/files/Sign_Cutter_to_make_PCBs/" rel="nofollow">http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/files/Sign_Cutter_to_make_PCBs/</a></p>
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		<title>By: DAVE</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-97068</link>
		<dc:creator>DAVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI I THINK I HAVE COME UP WITH A NEW WAY TO ETCH PC BOARDS. AFTER MY FIRST TIME TRYING TO MAKE THEM WITH LITTLE SUCCESS. SO I TRYED AFEW THINGS UNTIL I TRYED THIS .
 (1) I USED A SIGN MAKING PROGRAM TO MAKE A PC LAYOUT. THEN CUT IT TO VINYL . WEEDED IT AND PUT THE LAYOUT OVER THE COPPER .NOTE: VINYL CUTTERS CAN CUT VERY FINE LINES . 
 (2) I THEN PAINTED THE LINES USING A SMALL BRUSH.THE PAINT I USED WAS A SIGN AND AUTO AIR BRUSH PAINT .COMES IN 2 OZ. BOTTLES, THE BRAND NAME WAS CREATEX . I THINK A SPRAY PAINT SUCH AS CRYLON WOULD ALSO WORK, ALTHOUGH I HAVE NOT TRYED IT .I LET THE PAINT DRY FOR A FEW MINUITES. THEN REMOVED THE VINYL .
 (3) PUT IT IN ETCHING FLUID AND WOW !! TO SAY THE LEAST IT LOOK GREAT . I ALSO PUT THE ETCHING CONTAINER ON THE DRYER FOR HEAT AND AGATION . WORKED GREAT FOR ME .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI I THINK I HAVE COME UP WITH A NEW WAY TO ETCH PC BOARDS. AFTER MY FIRST TIME TRYING TO MAKE THEM WITH LITTLE SUCCESS. SO I TRYED AFEW THINGS UNTIL I TRYED THIS .<br />
 (1) I USED A SIGN MAKING PROGRAM TO MAKE A PC LAYOUT. THEN CUT IT TO VINYL . WEEDED IT AND PUT THE LAYOUT OVER THE COPPER .NOTE: VINYL CUTTERS CAN CUT VERY FINE LINES .<br />
 (2) I THEN PAINTED THE LINES USING A SMALL BRUSH.THE PAINT I USED WAS A SIGN AND AUTO AIR BRUSH PAINT .COMES IN 2 OZ. BOTTLES, THE BRAND NAME WAS CREATEX . I THINK A SPRAY PAINT SUCH AS CRYLON WOULD ALSO WORK, ALTHOUGH I HAVE NOT TRYED IT .I LET THE PAINT DRY FOR A FEW MINUITES. THEN REMOVED THE VINYL .<br />
 (3) PUT IT IN ETCHING FLUID AND WOW !! TO SAY THE LEAST IT LOOK GREAT . I ALSO PUT THE ETCHING CONTAINER ON THE DRYER FOR HEAT AND AGATION . WORKED GREAT FOR ME .</p>
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		<title>By: marry</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-96034</link>
		<dc:creator>marry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! Nice job here! I&#039;ll be dropping by from time to time :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! Nice job here! I&#8217;ll be dropping by from time to time :)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-82338</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using Reynolds&#039; Non-Stick Aluminum Foil q
with excellent results. 

Don&#039;t try running it thru your printer by itself! Get some laser-labels first, you&#039;ll need them. Preferrrably clear. 

1) Print the design on a plain sheet of paper (for alignment)
2) Cut a piece of aluminum foil that&#039;s bigger than your design by at least 1/4&quot; with scissors (not the cutting edge on the box), being careful not to crinkle it.  Make sure to clean up the edges and smooth out any light crinkles, because you don&#039;t want to scratch your printer&#039;s drum or get a paper jam with this stuff.
3) Align the foil, dull side up, over the design printed earlier. Using the laser labels, stick down the leading (top) two corners and as much of the leading edge as neded to keep it smooth to the paper. Keep in mind that the printer will not print in the exact same place twice, and that it seems to help to give the printer at least 1/2&quot; of empty foil at the leading edge.  
4) Print on the paper with the foil on it. It helps to use the print path with the least twists and turns, such as the manual paper tray. If your printer has a cardstock loading tray (on the back, usually) that&#039;s the best.
5) Carefully cut the foil off, trying not to bend the foil much. Cutting the paper might make it work better. The toner is not stuck to the foil very well at all, so be careful nit to jostle it. 
6) I use a heat-laminator and run the foil stuck toner-side-down on my copper thru 3-4 times. You should see your design &quot;embossed&quot; in the foil. I assume it&#039;ll be similar with an iron. YMMV
7) Let the board cool, the peel the aluminum off the board. Try to &quot;curl&quot; the foil away from the board, that seems the help. 

Etching us the same.

I hope this works for everyone else! I&#039;ve been able to get flawless transfers when I get my board prepared properly. (I have to use dish soap to clean it after using the scotch pad.) It&#039;s way better than scraping injet paper off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using Reynolds&#8217; Non-Stick Aluminum Foil q<br />
with excellent results. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t try running it thru your printer by itself! Get some laser-labels first, you&#8217;ll need them. Preferrrably clear. </p>
<p>1) Print the design on a plain sheet of paper (for alignment)<br />
2) Cut a piece of aluminum foil that&#8217;s bigger than your design by at least 1/4&#8243; with scissors (not the cutting edge on the box), being careful not to crinkle it.  Make sure to clean up the edges and smooth out any light crinkles, because you don&#8217;t want to scratch your printer&#8217;s drum or get a paper jam with this stuff.<br />
3) Align the foil, dull side up, over the design printed earlier. Using the laser labels, stick down the leading (top) two corners and as much of the leading edge as neded to keep it smooth to the paper. Keep in mind that the printer will not print in the exact same place twice, and that it seems to help to give the printer at least 1/2&#8243; of empty foil at the leading edge.<br />
4) Print on the paper with the foil on it. It helps to use the print path with the least twists and turns, such as the manual paper tray. If your printer has a cardstock loading tray (on the back, usually) that&#8217;s the best.<br />
5) Carefully cut the foil off, trying not to bend the foil much. Cutting the paper might make it work better. The toner is not stuck to the foil very well at all, so be careful nit to jostle it.<br />
6) I use a heat-laminator and run the foil stuck toner-side-down on my copper thru 3-4 times. You should see your design &#8220;embossed&#8221; in the foil. I assume it&#8217;ll be similar with an iron. YMMV<br />
7) Let the board cool, the peel the aluminum off the board. Try to &#8220;curl&#8221; the foil away from the board, that seems the help. </p>
<p>Etching us the same.</p>
<p>I hope this works for everyone else! I&#8217;ve been able to get flawless transfers when I get my board prepared properly. (I have to use dish soap to clean it after using the scotch pad.) It&#8217;s way better than scraping injet paper off!</p>
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		<title>By: signal7</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-81997</link>
		<dc:creator>signal7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@norm: &quot;reasons to use home etching;
1 – not everyone lives in the USA and even if they did, no one should settle for postponing a project development for days waiting for a prototype
2 – speaking of a prototype.. it is a “prototype” why pay money for a design that has a high risk of malfunctioning? testing circuit parts, as opposed to software solutions, are relatively easy.. you should build dirt cheap and quick solutions like this and exhaust every possible operating scheme for faults.. then, and only then, you can safely say you are spending money wisely..&quot;

With practice, you won&#039;t be making any more malfunctioning prototypes.  I typically design the board, *then* order the board and the parts at the same time.  

Yes - you read that right.  I design the board and all of the component footprints from the datasheets without any physical parts on hand.  I do wait 4 weeks to get the board back from BatchPCB, but I&#039;ve been doing this long enough to know that what I put together is going to work the first time out.  If anything, it takes longer to write the firmware than it takes for the board to come back from the fab house.

One thing that helps a great deal is LTSpice.  I simulate a lot of my analog designs rather than build actual prototypes so that I can see how the circuit is going to behave before I commit to buying anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@norm: &#8220;reasons to use home etching;<br />
1 – not everyone lives in the USA and even if they did, no one should settle for postponing a project development for days waiting for a prototype<br />
2 – speaking of a prototype.. it is a “prototype” why pay money for a design that has a high risk of malfunctioning? testing circuit parts, as opposed to software solutions, are relatively easy.. you should build dirt cheap and quick solutions like this and exhaust every possible operating scheme for faults.. then, and only then, you can safely say you are spending money wisely..&#8221;</p>
<p>With practice, you won&#8217;t be making any more malfunctioning prototypes.  I typically design the board, *then* order the board and the parts at the same time.  </p>
<p>Yes &#8211; you read that right.  I design the board and all of the component footprints from the datasheets without any physical parts on hand.  I do wait 4 weeks to get the board back from BatchPCB, but I&#8217;ve been doing this long enough to know that what I put together is going to work the first time out.  If anything, it takes longer to write the firmware than it takes for the board to come back from the fab house.</p>
<p>One thing that helps a great deal is LTSpice.  I simulate a lot of my analog designs rather than build actual prototypes so that I can see how the circuit is going to behave before I commit to buying anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Roly</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-81464</link>
		<dc:creator>Roly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having done literally hundreds of prototype PCB&#039;s by hand I have to agree with Adam Schabtach and will stick to ferric chloride thanks very much.

I also differ on using steel wool to pre-clean laminate, having used it for decades with no problems whatsoever.

Re: comments about tinning and corrosion.  Roller tinning is very nice, but hand tinning with a soldering iron can cause thin tracks to delaminate and lift off the board.  If required boards can also be protected with sundry coatings such as varnish, but I have unprotected boards that are decades old and are still in perfect condition (and only ten miles from the sea).  A more likely cause of post etching is failing to properly wash the board after etching.  The faster you etch the more likely you will get side-etching under the resist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having done literally hundreds of prototype PCB&#8217;s by hand I have to agree with Adam Schabtach and will stick to ferric chloride thanks very much.</p>
<p>I also differ on using steel wool to pre-clean laminate, having used it for decades with no problems whatsoever.</p>
<p>Re: comments about tinning and corrosion.  Roller tinning is very nice, but hand tinning with a soldering iron can cause thin tracks to delaminate and lift off the board.  If required boards can also be protected with sundry coatings such as varnish, but I have unprotected boards that are decades old and are still in perfect condition (and only ten miles from the sea).  A more likely cause of post etching is failing to properly wash the board after etching.  The faster you etch the more likely you will get side-etching under the resist.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Flemming</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-75198</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Flemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, i&#039;ve been looking around online trying to find the best hair straightener for ages, this has really help me out.</description>
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		<title>By: Barbara Flemming</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-75197</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Flemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that, I&#039;ve subscribed to your blog, it&#039;s always a great read, keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that, I&#8217;ve subscribed to your blog, it&#8217;s always a great read, keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-73442</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 02:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t ink, it is toner. Some on the Homebrew_PCBs list say they leave the toner on and just solder through it, that it melts off.

I clean it off, because of bad past experience with plastic ruining soldering iron tips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t ink, it is toner. Some on the Homebrew_PCBs list say they leave the toner on and just solder through it, that it melts off.</p>
<p>I clean it off, because of bad past experience with plastic ruining soldering iron tips.</p>
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		<title>By: mrt111590</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-73434</link>
		<dc:creator>mrt111590</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 00:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does it make a difference if you leave the ink on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does it make a difference if you leave the ink on?</p>
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		<title>By: harin</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-72984</link>
		<dc:creator>harin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 07:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my email add is harin_rocky89@yahoo.com...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my email add is <a href="mailto:harin_rocky89@yahoo.com">harin_rocky89@yahoo.com</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: harin</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-72983</link>
		<dc:creator>harin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 07:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear sir,
im in process of learning how to etch..
with me,i have a sample of double side/layer pcb and will be using the design etch a new UV board..but in the sample board,only the top part has components.the bottom has only tracks...is there any way i can etch the UV board on single side using the same design?
TQ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear sir,<br />
im in process of learning how to etch..<br />
with me,i have a sample of double side/layer pcb and will be using the design etch a new UV board..but in the sample board,only the top part has components.the bottom has only tracks&#8230;is there any way i can etch the UV board on single side using the same design?<br />
TQ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mika555</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-67398</link>
		<dc:creator>mika555</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or you can give it to someone do etch it and drill if for you! :)

http://sites.google.com/site/procad69/

Excellent rates also! Good for DIY-ers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or you can give it to someone do etch it and drill if for you! :)</p>
<p><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/procad69/" rel="nofollow">http://sites.google.com/site/procad69/</a></p>
<p>Excellent rates also! Good for DIY-ers.</p>
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		<title>By: Barclay</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-65870</link>
		<dc:creator>Barclay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I really love my new etchant, way faster and cheaper and easy to get! I improved this method by using avery labels that have been peeled of an printing on the waxy side of the paper, don&#039;t have to soak and gives me perfect results.  Now if I could just figure out an easy way to align my double sided boards. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I really love my new etchant, way faster and cheaper and easy to get! I improved this method by using avery labels that have been peeled of an printing on the waxy side of the paper, don&#8217;t have to soak and gives me perfect results.  Now if I could just figure out an easy way to align my double sided boards. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: shakeel</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/07/28/how-to-etch-a-single-sided-pcb/comment-page-2/#comment-64182</link>
		<dc:creator>shakeel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear sir 
i want to make pcb so can u send me the link of complete procedure of pcb etching...
how can it download.. plz help me 
my email is sa_soomro@hotmail.com


thnks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear sir<br />
i want to make pcb so can u send me the link of complete procedure of pcb etching&#8230;<br />
how can it download.. plz help me<br />
my email is <a href="mailto:sa_soomro@hotmail.com">sa_soomro@hotmail.com</a></p>
<p>thnks&#8230;.</p>
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