Simple Xbox 360 rapid fire mod

posted Jul 28th 2008 9:55pm by
filed under: xbox hacks

Back in May we mentioned AcidMods’ spitfire mod that enabled rapid fire (amongst other things) and was undetectable by Xbox Live. The parts list was quite low, needing just a PIC16F84A and a few other components, which led to third parties selling controller mod kits on eBay. The AcidMods team has figured out a new way to enable rapid fire using just a momentary switch and the necessary wire to hook it up. All you need to do is wire in the switch between the ground on the controller LED and the middle pin on the trigger. The only caveat is that because it’s hardwired to the LED, you can only use the mod on the particular port you’re using the controller on.

The reason it’s so simple is because the Xbox 360 controller uses pulse width modulation to “dim” the LED on the controller, creating a rapid high/low signal. When the momentary button is depressed, it routes this rapid high/low signal to the trigger input on the controller, which is then input to the Xbox 360. Hit the read link for a couple more videos explaining this hack.

While this modification is undetectable by Xbox Live, it does create an unfair advantage in multiplayer gaming and could result in your account being banned.

[via Xbox-Scene]

Related: Xbox 360 Hacks, Xbox Hacks



157 Responses to Simple Xbox 360 rapid fire mod

  • davis says:

    Nice hack made simpler! I wonder why he puts so much emphasis on this not being fake though..

  • Gh0sTly says:

    because its a youtube video, and 99% of the youtube commenters will likely call fake on him.

  • sam says:

    will this work with a wired controller?

  • recombinator says:

    It’s legit but it only works for the old style (matrix) wireless controllers using a powersupply/batteries with less than 3.0 volts in them and is really only effective for Call of Duty (I know.)

    Or you can get the much more reliable/universal pic’s from his store for $8. http://wiredinput.com/ShopUSA/index.php?cPath=30
    This is still “only” useful for COD. Might improve your aim in Halo a bit…whatever

  • Sooperman23 says:

    Wow, i found this information really old. ive already made close to 20 controler mods using this tech. but i did attach the second wire in a better spot.

  • sunjester says:

    lol this guy is a douche, make sure you turn your sound off.

  • Orac says:

    So this wont work on wired controllers then?

  • dk says:

    does this method damage your controller in any way or shorten its life span? and what is the name of the wire and switch? lol sorry its a bit of a newbie question.

  • Bob Ciesla says:

    I understand everything except the ground. What did he hook the ground up to? Can anyone provide a jpg.

  • Kevin S says:

    I feel that there should be a more clearly, detailed illustration on exactly where to solder this.

  • Eric says:

    I made my controller rapid fire but it fires on its own and when i predd the momentary button it stops firing the gun. Does anyone know why this happens?

    • JoeCooler says:

      You have most likely installed a “Closed” push button instead of an “Open” button. Closed switches will disconnect when pressed. Open switches will connect when pressed.

  • digitalsamurai says:

    I’d guess (eric) that your switch is normally closed instead of normally open…

  • Marcus says:

    Sooperman23 how did you wire your controler i need help this guys instruction suck ass..message me at faustusraine@gmail.com

  • Jon says:

    this only works on the old style controllers!

  • dylan says:

    umm i got a question i have had my 360 for about a year now is my controller old enough to do this with

  • Brandon says:

    got one for ya… I did the mod and it works wonderfull. That is when the controller stays synced. Any ideas why after 1 to 3 min the controller looses sync with the xbox. resyncs, works, looses sync… it just keeps repeating that pattern.

  • mike says:

    hi how dow you tell if this will work with my controler plz
    fanks

  • kinskins18 says:

    If you don’t want to make one you can buy them at http://www.thumbmonkey.com for $83. It’s a little steep but they sell around the same on eBay and these are crafted a little better than most of the ones out there. I bought one, just because I don’t trust myself to open up one of my controllers, because i’m pretty sure i’d destroy it haha =P

    http://store.thumbmonkey.com/Items/360mod?sck=188630&caSKU=360mod

    K

  • Justin says:

    I dont know were to ground the wire at the top at the led. do you connect it to the side or do you put it in the hole below the led? please help

  • Crash says:

    You solder the wire on the left side of the led. Dont apply too much heat as you can burn up the LED

  • jason says:

    this is a good mod ive tryed it but he complicates it a little

  • George says:

    dude why do you put so much emphasis on it not being fake its obviously not

  • John says:

    can I do this on a wired controller?

  • xXRPGXx says:

    i just modded my 360 controller today. and i put the wire in a better spot. i really like rapidd fire w/ the g3

  • Rob says:

    I tried this worked fine, then updated xbox 360 to new firmware from xbox live, now it doesnt work at all, looked inside controller all is ok, and shorting out doesnt work, do we think micro have put a patch in to stop this?

  • wheels says:

    I just modded mine with a 555 timer chip. After the xbox update, it still worked like a charm!

  • farley says:

    so if micro put a patch on this do tha controllers u buy online still work and if not id like 2 see the instructions on a 555 timer chip

  • Nick says:

    can u do it for the “b” button. i want to make sure i never lose a chainsaw battle on gears 2 again

  • Trailrunner1966 says:

    Will this work on the Battlefield Bad Company Game?

  • Tom Hanks says:

    does this mod work after the last live update?

  • Eric says:

    can you mod a controller for me i’ll pay you

  • Tucker says:

    So you can only do this mod with the old version that says…TB-1 by where the battery pack is of the new ones with the resistor or whatever it is on the front of the motherboard??

  • codester says:

    I need a better picture of where to exactly solder the wires. is there any other ways to mod it using nly a few parts?

  • nick says:

    Use this link to see a better picture of where exactly to solder. http://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=17135.0

    But my question is how do I know if I have a matrix control or one of the newer CG board controls?

  • Morise says:

    hey i got a sleeper mod for crismas and i played with it for about 30 minutes and then i think it may be either shorting out or the trigger gets stuck. but idk. so now if i let it sit for a little while it works for about 5 mmin when i use it and then it starts auto-matically shooting and then when i hit the sync button to turn it off i cant use the trigger but it kinda does some single shots. if u know wats wrong with it PM me at:pwningscape@hotmail.com
    ty

  • blue morris says:

    look this is really simple mod i did it today took a while cus my soilderin iron is shit how ever all u do is soldier first wire to a pin under the b button there is three pins all under another soilder this to the middle 1 next wire must be soildered literaly on the first player light just at the bottom of the led where it connects to the contoler this mod will only work if the controller is not a d10 controler u can find this out by looking next the 1st player led it shud say d21 or sumin just not d10 and only works on wireless controllers sorry for the shit spelling hope this helps

  • Brayden says:

    What is the name of the wire you used?

  • Aaron says:

    Ok can someone please tell me what kind of screew driver I need to open the controller
    And also the name of the wires and button
    Also where I can get them
    And finally, where to I solder them?

  • owen says:

    You will need a size 9 Security Torx to remove the screws. It is shaped like a star with a hole in it. Look at the screws on the back of your controller you will see what it should look like. If buying one make sure its long enuf to get in there, dont buy the little hex bit type.

    The switch just needs to be a Push-to-make, the smaller the better, I got mine from Maplin £0.99.

    If you look below the A B buttons you will see 3 little points sticking out, quite close together. U need to solder 1 wire to the middle one. Now find the Player 1 LED(the 1 that lights up the quadrant on your controller), little tiny and yellowish in colour. You need to solder the other wire to the lower part of it(Good Luck:). Now solder your switch to these 2 wires, power up and fingers crossed.

  • Harry says:

    @brandon: I’m having the same problem here…any ideas?
    Cmon guys, if anyone knows what’s causing this I would greatly appreciate the help.

  • Daniel says:

    Will this work when it says like c16 or c15 on the bottom left hand corner under the battery pack

  • illownunibby says:

    if you have to use this to get an edge in cod your a fuckin noob. How about if you cant play like the rest of us dont play huh? Its funny bc every time i run into you modded controller nubs i own you like you never had it…if you need or want this your the biggest vagina i know of

  • jake says:

    this actually only works with the new controllers not the old ones. the new ones have a resistor on it and you need that. it is a small silver box on you circuit board on the front side right in the middle. cant miss it.

  • Adam says:

    will this work with the 5 volt controllers, I heard you need a 3 volt one for it to not destroy the controller?

  • Alxtz says:

    ok just to clairified some things, i got the new controler(the one with the CG board/wireless)and a second one (with wire and the Matrix board).
    Wich one i should use and is it possible this work with the new one??(CG board, because i rather have a wireless one)and a last question is this still wor with the new NXE??
    Pls help and sorry for the miss-spelling

  • mike says:

    what would happen if you just hooked the wires to the trigger spot and the power do you need the power to pules or can it be steady ?

  • dave says:

    im using a 555 chip does this need to b programmed? or can i use it “straight out of the box”

  • mike says:

    what do you do if the led comes out the mod doesnt work any more how can i fix it

  • eric says:

    thanks i fucked up the controller by doing it you bitch

  • kenny says:

    Hey eric thats cause you dont know how to solder.

    and with some people saying it only works with old style controllers and new style controllers. Which one or does it work with all controllers.

  • tnuts says:

    works with wired and OLD STYLE MATRIX WIRELESS ONLY!!!!!

    does not work AT ALL with the new wireless cg controllers. no questions asked. they dont use pulse width modulation. you need one of the expensive 3 mode sleeper kits to get it to work with the new cg wireless controllers and COD5. you HAVE to have the new sleeper mod to get it to work on COD5, they recently released a patch disabling all of the hacks EXCEPT the sleeper mod. google it. is this mod even worth it for halo 3? i dont wanna buy it if i kant rapid fire in that game anyone know? thx in advance.

  • tnuts says:

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    and i will mod them for you for 30 bucks. e-mail me Darkarmyofone@hotmail.com ten bucks shipping, and if anything goes wrong for ANY reason i’ll send you a pre-sleeper modded controller garunteed.

    I offer this service cheaper than ANYONE even on e-bay. check if you dont beleive me.

    i offer this service for the faint of heart, and the soldering impaired
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  • tnuts says:

    any takers? 30 bucks is cheap!!!! but remember your controller must be a wireless matrix controller!!!

    NOT a newer cg wireless controller. if you dont know how to tell the difference google this “rapid fire compatable xbox360 controller” you’ll find it. then click the images button and you’ll probably find a diagram

    ya know what here as long as your controller DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS your all set. and it has to be wireless. take your battery pack out and look hard. it cannot look like this. the compatable version will have far fewer components vissable.

    http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa209/Nemesis_14/CGWirelessBoard.jpg

    hope this helps

  • eddie says:

    they work with new controllers just did mine

  • Tyler says:

    this is retarted i need to know where to find 30 gauge wiring like wut controller????

  • Brett says:

    So i did the mod…now my controller keeps acting like i am pressing the sync button any reason for this? up for any imput

  • tnuts says:

    the QUICK rapid fire mod WILL NOT WORK ON NEW CG CONTROLLERS…. “eddie” the mod chips work with your controller, BUT the SIMPLE 2 wire rapid fire mod discussed here WILL ONLY work on wireless matrix controllers, aka the OLD ones. if you just did it then post me a youtube vid of you ripping up COD5… then i’ll beleive you, lol.

    to brett. check your wiring. one wire to the BOTTOM of led #1. and one wire to the MIDDLE pin on the right trigger. then wire it to a momentary switch. it must be a momentary switch.

    ******UPDATE********

    I JUST FIGURED OUT THAT THIS TRICK WONT WORK WITH BRAND NEW BATTERIES. brett this may apply to you. YOUR BATTERIES MUST BE ROUGHLY AROUND 90% for the mod to function properly. if you dont beleive me throw a new pair of batts in and try it. cheers

  • Brett says:

    ok tnuts i had the snyc button jammed i fixed right after i posted. i lent my friend cod 4 and dnt have a cpy now so i am trying it with halo3 it works fr about the first three trigger pulls then stops, i remove the batts. and it works for a few more times then quits, i have everything wired correctly and a momentary switch, the only other thing i have different it the battery pack, do i need to use batts, or can i use the recharg. pack? thanks!

  • socool says:

    wow this is awesome. i used to be a noob and suck at COD, now with this controller i am a noob and i win. cheating is the only way to play online video games. practice and cognitive reasoning is for chumps!

    someone please post the newest glitch/mod/exploit because i really need to level up my prestige! (it makes my sack bigger)!

  • duff says:

    Attn: Brett. i just did a mod today with a momentary switch. hooking a wire to the led 1 will fire a few times on halo you are correct it was doing the same thing to me. so instead of hooking it there, on the bottom right of the board where the little rumble pack is plugged in. on the top side where it says microsoft there are 2 through hole leads where the plug in is installed for the rumble. the right post is the one you want to solder to, and leave the other wire to the middle post on the trigger. works great on halo3, really wakes up the BR (battle rifle)

  • Brett says:

    “duff” if you were playing halo3 and switched to cod4 did it make a difference? (fire rate that is) i only ask to see if i am going to have a mod controller for cod4 and one for halo3? hope it will work the same for both. if you can respond to Intopaintballing@aol.com let me know i am going to try it now hope to hear from you! thanks for the help.. and tnuts have you ran into this problem with halo3 like me and duff and does his solution work? ill try it and let you know!

  • Brett says:

    Duff you were right about the halo3 and i tried it works much better… i left the other wire in tact but cut it so i could switch from cod4 to h3 in a jiff my next thing i might add will be toggle switch to switch from cod4 to h3 in no time thanks for the help.

  • chuck says:

    um. just so you guys know. this only works with the newer controllers with the register, just like one of you said. to see if your controller is capable of modding, take off the battery pack and look at the bottom left of the opening. If there is a T3, you’re good to go. If it says T2, buy a new controller, cuz it aint happening. BTW quit giving this guy shit. you’re mad that you didnt think of it before he did. If you want to flame, do it in person, so people can laugh at your stupidity.

  • Brett says:

    “chuck” who are you talking to? i got all my mods to work because of “tnuts & Duff” they know whats up and are very helpful– i want to let them know they are the sh*t when it came to this. the only thing i want to improve it the ability to switch from cod4 to H3 with another switch… i think it can be done just need a little support.. (IE another switch like a three way to turn it from the led to the rumble solider point…. think this would work or would it be too much? please lmk!!!! Again thanks for the support!

  • SICWITIT02 says:

    This is the best sight by far , These moded controlers by far give the best pofomence! I just got the stelth red, at the price of 180$

  • dylan says:

    well like it said you can use a basic momentary switch i would go normally closed

  • anotherboss says:

    how would you go about modding a controller without a resistor?

  • Nick says:

    hey will 18 guage wire work? i just got my controller apart and i have a d21 above the 1st player LED but when i try to test it it doesnt rapid fire….. why? someone on another vid said to put one of the wires onto the holes below the R21 and that worked once, but now it doesnt did i mess up my controller? and one more question will my xbox account get permenantly banned? if i get banned or does teh entire xbox become inopperable online?

  • circ says:

    Can anyone tell me if this mod works now (2/27/09) with COD WaW? or have the updates killed it?

  • john says:

    ok i put the wire on the middle fire thing and to the LED and when i put my battery pack, the LED lights up very dimly, when i turn COD 4 on, it rapid fires all the time non-stop. I made sure nothing was touching it and it still doesnt work. I have broke one controller and im trying not to brake my other one. PLEASE help me

  • tnuts says:

    JHON. you have to wire a switch inbetween those two points. not just one wire str8 from the middle pin to the led. thats why its firing ALL the time because that wire is connected all the time. just cut it and wire the 2 new ends of the once whole wire to the switch! and by the way, if you think that this mod makes your right trigger rapid fire your wrong. only pressing that “switch” i told you to wire in there will produce the rapid fire effect.

    AND NO THIS DOES NOT WORK ON COD5 ANYMORE AS OF NOV 10th, 2008. you must use a 3 or 4 mode “sleeper mod” google it. ebay is the best place for these kits. they sell a 3 mode rapid fire kit all set and ready to go for 20$ shipped. and it DOES WORK ON COD5. i have this mod myself. works WONDERS ON HALO 3. I ranked up like 12 levels in one night lol!!!!

    heres the link to the kit. cheers.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Dual-Rapid-Fire-Xbox-360-Turbo-controller-MOD-KIT-Guide_W0QQitemZ230323409426QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Accessories?hash=item230323409426&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1318

    LET ME KNOW IF THIS HELPED YOUR PROBLEM JHON.

  • Burt says:

    Hey tnuts, I just got a wireless black controller today and it has the resistor located on the top side middle of board. It also has TP3 just under where the battery pack is. The problem is that I am not getting rapid fire to work going from bottom of D21 to middle pin of right trigger connector. I have done this mod before no problem. Is anyone else seeing this same issue. Im thinking that MS has changed up the boards and are not using PWM. The sticker that you have to remove to get one of the screws out has the numbers “XB01769-022″ Any info on this would help.

    Thanks

  • Austin says:

    okay can i solder one wire to the middle trigger pin like your supposed to and the other one to one of the two pins below it about a half inch? please let me know thats what someone said.

  • xbox freak says:

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  • mike says:

    I just did this mod last night on my friend’s controller. It’s a tp3. It has rapid fire but only if you find the sweet spot. It almost acts like a response trigger on a tippman 98 if anyone knows what I’m talking about, lol is this controller moddable (using this simple mod)

  • chase says:

    would this work for gears of war for the pistols and hammerburst and can i get a pic of which of the points that i need to sauter at because i couldn’t see in the video…

  • aaron says:

    thanks for showing me how to do this. it works great. i have done 25 of them in the past 2 weeks. with no issues.

  • Simon says:

    For all you cheapscates who don’t want to spend a lot or don’t have the time to program hardware, simply buy a button with 2 wires on it at radioshack along with the appropriate screwdriver. Open up the controller and use tiny pieces of tape or drops of glue ( make sure nothing is blocks) to put the wires into the right places. Then, punch a small hole in the back so you can reach the button. Seal up the controller and it should last a littlte over three weeks. I would suggest using a garbage controller or one that you don’t care about as this mod basicly ruins the controller

  • Vergil says:

    Hey Guys, if you really want the best from your quick rapidfire mod, put a 1k resistor between the middel trigger pin and the momentary switch, and dont solder on the LED rather follow the path down where you will find a little hole where you can solder to (just use a knive to remove the protective layer)

  • Tom says:

    hey guys, i tried this mod, but i can only get my switch to fire a single shot. ie no rapid fire!
    whats the problem with this?
    Please help me:)

  • gt-BioooD says:

    Where can u get some red and black wiring

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  • vinny says:

    wat kind of wire do i need

  • Bob says:

    Ive got the D21 type controller, ive wired it from the middle pin to the hole thats located further down. However when i click the switch (playing on halo 3 btw) the gun shoots for a bit, pauses for about 0.2 seconds then fires again, its almost slower than firing it normally (however its almost dead accurate).

    What am i doing wrong?

  • vergil says:

    hallo Bob, yes there is a slight pause, but adding the 1k resistor helps to minimize the pauses

  • vergil says:

    has any one used the 555chip mod on there controller, for a rappid fire triggor

  • MIKE says:

    my gun keeps firing by its self whats worng

  • ryan says:

    I have a controller where the symbol is a little circle and a line through it instead of p10 or anything else. Will it work? i don’t want to open it if it won’t.

  • joe says:

    is their a way to not get mod blocked cuz every time i use my mod i get mod blocked

  • Cdop12 says:

    Ok… But how do u solder? What is it?
    please respond.

  • jim says:

    were do i solder on a controller that says p10 on the botttom left hand corner of the battery pack

  • 19slinky19 says:

    were will i find a butten for the rapid fire??

  • chris says:

    Does this mod work on halo 3? or has there been an update but does on cod 4

  • rob says:

    Its funny how this mod messes up your controller. And nobody wants to leave a reply about why it stays on all the time. DONT DO THIS MOD. It will stay on all the time unless you press the button. They make videos to mess uo your controller. The people that are always complaining about mods are the ones making these tutorials to mess up your controller. The guy in this video is actually a hater of modded controllers,and has even filed reports about them. DONT DO THIS MOD!! Buy one!!

  • rob says:

    DONT DO THIS MOD,IT WILL MESS UP YOUR CONTROLLER AND STAY ON ALL THE TIME UNLESS YOU ARE ACTUALLY HOLDING IT DOWN!!!! In other words,when you turn on your console and controller,your xbox screen will keep skipping like you are pressing the RT button.It only stops when you press the Momentary push button. Its a fake!!!!

    • Delithicus says:

      Rob, youre using the wrong kind of switch yours sounds like a closed switch you need an open one.

    • Delithicus says:

      I have a question though…I put the switch connected to the middle trigger port and another wire to the rumble port. It worked fine for weeks then all of a sudden the trigger is stuck on. I even took the switch out and its still staying on, the only way to make it stop is to bridge the middle trigger port to the bottom trigger port. BUT that makes other buttons fire off – any suggestions?

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