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	<title>Comments on: Criminals steal credit card data just by wardriving</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-92362</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very superb and the large number. good work man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very superb and the large number. good work man.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-83283</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you get paid in cash at fast food places?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you get paid in cash at fast food places?</p>
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		<title>By: international credit card</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-77856</link>
		<dc:creator>international credit card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THats kind of scary.... I guess im kind of glad I still have a low credit limit.
-Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THats kind of scary&#8230;. I guess im kind of glad I still have a low credit limit.<br />
-Jack</p>
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		<title>By: New Edge Credit</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-71699</link>
		<dc:creator>New Edge Credit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its really a very mind blowing news..............its really very interesting..I just can&#039;t imagine that a Credit Card can be stolen simply by war driving.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its really a very mind blowing news&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..its really very interesting..I just can&#8217;t imagine that a Credit Card can be stolen simply by war driving&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: May</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-71152</link>
		<dc:creator>May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! what an idea ! What a concept ! Beautiful .. Amazing …</p>
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		<title>By: Pamantha</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-67262</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always good quality info from this site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always good quality info from this site!</p>
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		<title>By: badcreditnomore</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-61519</link>
		<dc:creator>badcreditnomore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would like to know exactly what wardriving is..but interesting article nontheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would like to know exactly what wardriving is..but interesting article nontheless.</p>
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		<title>By: credit</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-60174</link>
		<dc:creator>credit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow over 41 million CC numbers! How did they get caught?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow over 41 million CC numbers! How did they get caught?</p>
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		<title>By: Syed Shams Ali</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-56832</link>
		<dc:creator>Syed Shams Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After see this i just say this SUPERB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After see this i just say this SUPERB</p>
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		<title>By: Prime Credit Cards</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-55373</link>
		<dc:creator>Prime Credit Cards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing how many credit card numbers they get... Scary to think when someone organizes the bad guys to actually do something with all those account numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing how many credit card numbers they get&#8230; Scary to think when someone organizes the bad guys to actually do something with all those account numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: geppo</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-53860</link>
		<dc:creator>geppo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in italy every day a hundred a card was cloned by bluetooth pos. a guy go in restaurant with a nokia n73 with a good software and sniff chip data and pin or magstripdata and pin.have in car a msr 206 and instantly duplicate a card and go on atm and take a money.is a shit people but camorra is this....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in italy every day a hundred a card was cloned by bluetooth pos. a guy go in restaurant with a nokia n73 with a good software and sniff chip data and pin or magstripdata and pin.have in car a msr 206 and instantly duplicate a card and go on atm and take a money.is a shit people but camorra is this&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Card Comparison</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-43822</link>
		<dc:creator>Card Comparison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;war&quot; in war-driving really gives it away. they stole the numbers while wardriving NOT by war driving. I guess it is a little like tresspass.

Brian White</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;war&#8221; in war-driving really gives it away. they stole the numbers while wardriving NOT by war driving. I guess it is a little like tresspass.</p>
<p>Brian White</p>
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		<title>By: Card Comparison</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/15/criminals-steal-credit-card-data-just-by-wardriving/comment-page-1/#comment-43821</link>
		<dc:creator>Card Comparison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;war&quot; in war-driving really gives it away. they stole the numbers while wardriving NOT by war driving. I guess it is a little like tresspass.

Brian White
http://www.creditcardhelp.com.au</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;war&#8221; in war-driving really gives it away. they stole the numbers while wardriving NOT by war driving. I guess it is a little like tresspass.</p>
<p>Brian White<br />
<a href="http://www.creditcardhelp.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.creditcardhelp.com.au</a></p>
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		<title>By: caligula</title>
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		<dc:creator>caligula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is directed to &quot;joe&quot;

Most people believe that war-driving is NOT illegal but it has never been tested in the courts.  If a court case came up, and the plaintiff had enough money to hire a smart lawyer, he could probably convince the judge/jury just by implicating the word &quot;war&quot; in &quot;war-driving&quot;.  You really need to use your brain a little more on this instead of flaming people you know nothing about.

Moreover, the only reference to illegal activity I&#039;ve read is &quot;connecting without the owner&#039;s consent&quot;.  But how do you differentiate between wardriving and packet capture with a passive sniffer, for example?  You are not &quot;connecting&quot; to the network&quot;... just trapping loose packets flying by you.  The truth is, the authorities don&#039;t really understand computers.  it&#039;s just that and all your inane post does is make excuses for their stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is directed to &#8220;joe&#8221;</p>
<p>Most people believe that war-driving is NOT illegal but it has never been tested in the courts.  If a court case came up, and the plaintiff had enough money to hire a smart lawyer, he could probably convince the judge/jury just by implicating the word &#8220;war&#8221; in &#8220;war-driving&#8221;.  You really need to use your brain a little more on this instead of flaming people you know nothing about.</p>
<p>Moreover, the only reference to illegal activity I&#8217;ve read is &#8220;connecting without the owner&#8217;s consent&#8221;.  But how do you differentiate between wardriving and packet capture with a passive sniffer, for example?  You are not &#8220;connecting&#8221; to the network&#8221;&#8230; just trapping loose packets flying by you.  The truth is, the authorities don&#8217;t really understand computers.  it&#8217;s just that and all your inane post does is make excuses for their stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Constantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can see why driving could find the access points with a good antenna.  but once these guys decide to start trapping packets, they have to park somewhere... or drive around in circles at the cost of a lot of gas, no?
and if they park, don&#039;t you think it&#039;s pretty suspicious with a directional antenna visible from the outside of the car?  all it takes is one phone call...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can see why driving could find the access points with a good antenna.  but once these guys decide to start trapping packets, they have to park somewhere&#8230; or drive around in circles at the cost of a lot of gas, no?<br />
and if they park, don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s pretty suspicious with a directional antenna visible from the outside of the car?  all it takes is one phone call&#8230;</p>
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