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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-95683</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! I truly am getting heavily into this matter.  Do you chance to know where I could find any connected forums? Thanks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I truly am getting heavily into this matter.  Do you chance to know where I could find any connected forums? Thanks :)</p>
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		<title>By: brainwave</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-95269</link>
		<dc:creator>brainwave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been employing brainwave entrainment for a while now, but not had very much of success - could you propose someplace I can get quality CDs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been employing brainwave entrainment for a while now, but not had very much of success &#8211; could you propose someplace I can get quality CDs?</p>
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		<title>By: brainwave</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-92640</link>
		<dc:creator>brainwave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you please explain the difference between binaural beats and brainwave entrainment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please explain the difference between binaural beats and brainwave entrainment?</p>
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		<title>By: Black_Angel</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-42443</link>
		<dc:creator>Black_Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Th3_uN1Qu3 that it does work!

You need a realy and i&#039;m talking realy good set of headphones. The kind that block out all other noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Th3_uN1Qu3 that it does work!</p>
<p>You need a realy and i&#8217;m talking realy good set of headphones. The kind that block out all other noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Jynx</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-42331</link>
		<dc:creator>Jynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahahah, wow. They&#039;re pushing binaural beats as fucking drugs now? XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahahah, wow. They&#8217;re pushing binaural beats as fucking drugs now? XD</p>
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		<title>By: Th3_uN1Qu3</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-41765</link>
		<dc:creator>Th3_uN1Qu3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I-Doser DOES work. However it is ripping off an open-source
project, and are in violation of the GPL. Plus, the beats
they sell rarely have the described effect. &quot;White Crosses&quot;
is a pretty strong one, it made me have &quot;false awakenings&quot;
aka i thought i woke up but i was in another dream, and the
dreams were pretty freaky, and the Anesthesia one is really
good for putting me to sleep.

But of course i didn&#039;t spend money on them. Anyway, binaural
beats and other types of sounds designed for brain entrainment
are by no means new, and I-Doser isn&#039;t the first to do
&quot;digital drugs&quot;, they just did a little more marketing.
HealingBeats.com and Iso-Tones.com offer plenty of free
samples and also have tutorials that teach you how to mix
your own beats.

I can confirm 100% that they have NO adverse effects and that
they DO NOT trigger epilepsy. I had epilepsy from age 5 to 9m
now i&#039;m 17 and i&#039;m fine. I&#039;ve listened to those beats for
quite a while and i had no symptoms of a seizure ever.

And unlike drugs, these beats are things you get bored of
after a while. I haven&#039;t listened to one in several months
since i had better stuff to do and less time to waste.

Anyway, they&#039;re fun to try, and trying to mix some
on your own leads to interesting results. But would i spend
money on them? Nah. They are in many ways safer than drugs,
but like all mind-altering things, it&#039;s best not to overdo
them. Still, the way the media described them is way way off,
there&#039;s nothing to worry about, and they certainly do not
act as a gateway to real drugs.

Weren&#039;t the people that wrote this the same that said the 
LHC will blow the entire Earth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I-Doser DOES work. However it is ripping off an open-source<br />
project, and are in violation of the GPL. Plus, the beats<br />
they sell rarely have the described effect. &#8220;White Crosses&#8221;<br />
is a pretty strong one, it made me have &#8220;false awakenings&#8221;<br />
aka i thought i woke up but i was in another dream, and the<br />
dreams were pretty freaky, and the Anesthesia one is really<br />
good for putting me to sleep.</p>
<p>But of course i didn&#8217;t spend money on them. Anyway, binaural<br />
beats and other types of sounds designed for brain entrainment<br />
are by no means new, and I-Doser isn&#8217;t the first to do<br />
&#8220;digital drugs&#8221;, they just did a little more marketing.<br />
HealingBeats.com and Iso-Tones.com offer plenty of free<br />
samples and also have tutorials that teach you how to mix<br />
your own beats.</p>
<p>I can confirm 100% that they have NO adverse effects and that<br />
they DO NOT trigger epilepsy. I had epilepsy from age 5 to 9m<br />
now i&#8217;m 17 and i&#8217;m fine. I&#8217;ve listened to those beats for<br />
quite a while and i had no symptoms of a seizure ever.</p>
<p>And unlike drugs, these beats are things you get bored of<br />
after a while. I haven&#8217;t listened to one in several months<br />
since i had better stuff to do and less time to waste.</p>
<p>Anyway, they&#8217;re fun to try, and trying to mix some<br />
on your own leads to interesting results. But would i spend<br />
money on them? Nah. They are in many ways safer than drugs,<br />
but like all mind-altering things, it&#8217;s best not to overdo<br />
them. Still, the way the media described them is way way off,<br />
there&#8217;s nothing to worry about, and they certainly do not<br />
act as a gateway to real drugs.</p>
<p>Weren&#8217;t the people that wrote this the same that said the<br />
LHC will blow the entire Earth?</p>
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		<title>By: aka</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-40875</link>
		<dc:creator>aka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about brain wave entrainment cd&#039;s that are supposed to altar your brain

waves to accomplish everything from relieving depression, to achieving

a state of deep meditation, to energizing you, to releasing all your

creativity, to helping you achieve deep sleep, etc., etc..  Interested

in any opinions on this.  I do not believe they contain

binaural beats because you do not have to use headphones, but

somehow these entrainment beates (or whatever they are) are

woven into music that you listen to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about brain wave entrainment cd&#8217;s that are supposed to altar your brain</p>
<p>waves to accomplish everything from relieving depression, to achieving</p>
<p>a state of deep meditation, to energizing you, to releasing all your</p>
<p>creativity, to helping you achieve deep sleep, etc., etc..  Interested</p>
<p>in any opinions on this.  I do not believe they contain</p>
<p>binaural beats because you do not have to use headphones, but</p>
<p>somehow these entrainment beates (or whatever they are) are</p>
<p>woven into music that you listen to.</p>
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		<title>By: spacecoyote</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-40874</link>
		<dc:creator>spacecoyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah someone told me a while back that I&#039;d like

Kim Komando&#039;s site. Needless to say I didn&#039;t and this is

just further proof that she is an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah someone told me a while back that I&#8217;d like</p>
<p>Kim Komando&#8217;s site. Needless to say I didn&#8217;t and this is</p>
<p>just further proof that she is an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Roly</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-40873</link>
		<dc:creator>Roly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a tech some 20 years ago I was asked to construct an &quot;Electro-Neural Stimulator&quot; that applied very low audio frequencies to electrodes placed on the back of the neck.  At the time this was being advanced as a TREATMENT for drug addiction, a kind of &quot;electro-methodone&quot;.  So-called &quot;brainwave entrainment&quot; was pure Kozmik bunkum then, and in this reincarnation it still is.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a tech some 20 years ago I was asked to construct an &#8220;Electro-Neural Stimulator&#8221; that applied very low audio frequencies to electrodes placed on the back of the neck.  At the time this was being advanced as a TREATMENT for drug addiction, a kind of &#8220;electro-methodone&#8221;.  So-called &#8220;brainwave entrainment&#8221; was pure Kozmik bunkum then, and in this reincarnation it still is.</p>
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		<title>By: thunder7</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-40872</link>
		<dc:creator>thunder7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like they are trying to create,...&lt;br&gt;&quot;Subliminal Messaging.&quot; And it is just not working!.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have always been curious about Subliminal Messaging, and what one could re teach themselves!. Through Subliminal Messages, I have tried to create Subliminal sounds.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess I just did not know enough about what I was doing!. It would be a killer hack and a great device to re teach people things like &#039;math&#039; in my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like they are trying to create,&#8230;<br />&#8220;Subliminal Messaging.&#8221; And it is just not working!.</p>
<p>I have always been curious about Subliminal Messaging, and what one could re teach themselves!. Through Subliminal Messages, I have tried to create Subliminal sounds.</p>
<p>I guess I just did not know enough about what I was doing!. It would be a killer hack and a great device to re teach people things like &#8216;math&#8217; in my case.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-40871</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its real, the brain works on different frequencies and screwing around with those or simulating then makes the brain short or react. I cant explain it but theres a lot of hardware out there for just this - it makes you really screwed up if you misuse it. I have a strange gizmo that a friend gave to me and its got these electrodes that clip to the ear lobes (Its intended use too) and theres a headphone jack that you plug into, it makes you instantly feel like you are riding on waves and when yu open your eyes it clearly disturbs the vision making it blink in and out really fast.  I was told its design was for helping someone come off drugs lol.. I can say that you dont feel the electrical impulses but they are there and they do work because disconnecting them makes it stop working.&lt;br&gt;strange and true..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its real, the brain works on different frequencies and screwing around with those or simulating then makes the brain short or react. I cant explain it but theres a lot of hardware out there for just this &#8211; it makes you really screwed up if you misuse it. I have a strange gizmo that a friend gave to me and its got these electrodes that clip to the ear lobes (Its intended use too) and theres a headphone jack that you plug into, it makes you instantly feel like you are riding on waves and when yu open your eyes it clearly disturbs the vision making it blink in and out really fast.  I was told its design was for helping someone come off drugs lol.. I can say that you dont feel the electrical impulses but they are there and they do work because disconnecting them makes it stop working.<br />strange and true..</p>
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		<title>By: Raggamofyn</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-40870</link>
		<dc:creator>Raggamofyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhh, wetware hacks. I&#039;m not actually a fan. I&#039;m not one to screw with my mind. It&#039;s the only one I have and I can&#039;t get another one anytime soon. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Besides, that junk never worked for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhh, wetware hacks. I&#8217;m not actually a fan. I&#8217;m not one to screw with my mind. It&#8217;s the only one I have and I can&#8217;t get another one anytime soon. </p>
<p>Besides, that junk never worked for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Frogz</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-40869</link>
		<dc:creator>Frogz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yet again i am going to scream&lt;br&gt;&quot;NOT HACKADAY WORTHY&quot;&lt;br&gt;this link should be 100% legal as sbagen IS open source&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4166239/76_different_I-Doser_doses__decrypted_for_SBaGen&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4166239/76_different_I-Doser_doses__decrypted_for_SBaGen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://files.filefront.com/SBAGen+Doses+1zip/;6596176;/fileinfo.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://files.filefront.com/SBAGen+Doses+1zip/;6596176;/fileinfo.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://sbagen.sourceforge.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sbagen.sourceforge.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;the way i-doser works, it has a picture of said drug and a description, you read it and that makes it work, if you look at the source script files, most of them are identical&lt;br&gt;i want you to all try this, maybe it&#039;ll work for 1 or 2 people but all in all, its a big scam and a bunch of bullshit, if you fall into the hype and it works then good for you but unless this was posted for a laugh, it isnt a hack(unless you also include instructions for copying the temp file it creates while its running(100% fully runable as is in sbagen fyi) content like this is as bad as your grandmother emailing you a chain mail &quot;do not open a email that says i love you&quot; and does not deserve to be on hackaday</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yet again i am going to scream<br />&#8220;NOT HACKADAY WORTHY&#8221;<br />this link should be 100% legal as sbagen IS open source<br /><a href="http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4166239/76_different_I-Doser_doses__decrypted_for_SBaGen" rel="nofollow">http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4166239/76_different_I-Doser_doses__decrypted_for_SBaGen</a><br /><a href="http://files.filefront.com/SBAGen+Doses+1zip/;6596176;/fileinfo.html" rel="nofollow">http://files.filefront.com/SBAGen+Doses+1zip/;6596176;/fileinfo.html</a><br /><a href="http://sbagen.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">http://sbagen.sourceforge.net/</a><br />the way i-doser works, it has a picture of said drug and a description, you read it and that makes it work, if you look at the source script files, most of them are identical<br />i want you to all try this, maybe it&#8217;ll work for 1 or 2 people but all in all, its a big scam and a bunch of bullshit, if you fall into the hype and it works then good for you but unless this was posted for a laugh, it isnt a hack(unless you also include instructions for copying the temp file it creates while its running(100% fully runable as is in sbagen fyi) content like this is as bad as your grandmother emailing you a chain mail &#8220;do not open a email that says i love you&#8221; and does not deserve to be on hackaday</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-2/#comment-40868</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i tried it just to see what the whole fuss is all over, its all just a bunch of crap. It may work for some people, however it doesn&#039;t work for me. i will just stick to smoking weed and leave all of the others alone. its my choice don&#039;t judge me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i tried it just to see what the whole fuss is all over, its all just a bunch of crap. It may work for some people, however it doesn&#8217;t work for me. i will just stick to smoking weed and leave all of the others alone. its my choice don&#8217;t judge me.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfton</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/08/20/parents-beware-of-digital-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-40867</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is proof of quite a few things.&lt;br&gt;The list of these things does not include any biological danger posed by audio files of any kind.&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve assembled a short, list that is not all-inclusive, but it should humor you ever so slightly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1)  Ms. Komando is definitely a sensationalist.  Though I have not read any of her other articles yet, this one proves that she was caught up in the moment and put very little actualy thought behind it, before making such a bold, and uninformed statement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2)  Ms. Komando is over rated for the actual content in her articles.  She begins with the implied statement that there is a way to use digital technology to somehow induce a mind altering state in humans that is both dangerous, and implied to be addictive, if even for its ease of use, potentially unlimited and freely available supply, and that it can do bodily harm in the same way that drugs which are illegal, or illegally used, can.  But her article spends too much valuable text space on binaurul sound, and its definition, while stating that &quot;digital drugs&quot; are not binaural sound.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3)  Ms. Komando did not in fact write an effective warning to parents about this supposed danger.  Assuming that she did intend to do as is evidenced on the surface, and warn parents of this potential danger, she ran off half-cocked.  No evidence was cited, linking any digital media or media player, audio or video, to an actual altered stete of mind.  She did not cite any laboratory findings.  She referenced no personal experience in the matter.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4)  Ms. Komando, for all this warning, has raised a far greater potential for perpetuating this supposed danger by writing a controversial topic that it is reasonable to expect that some over protective parents will remove any and all music from their children post-haste, and others will research the buzz words of &#039;binaural&#039; and &#039;digital drugs&#039;, and may even pioneer new research into this supposedly/potentially dangerous new world.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5)  I don&#039;t need to read USA Today ever again.  A paper as supposedly reputable as this one, that would allow something like this to come to print under its label, isn&#039;t worth my time, or yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is proof of quite a few things.<br />The list of these things does not include any biological danger posed by audio files of any kind.<br />I&#8217;ve assembled a short, list that is not all-inclusive, but it should humor you ever so slightly.</p>
<p>1)  Ms. Komando is definitely a sensationalist.  Though I have not read any of her other articles yet, this one proves that she was caught up in the moment and put very little actualy thought behind it, before making such a bold, and uninformed statement.</p>
<p>2)  Ms. Komando is over rated for the actual content in her articles.  She begins with the implied statement that there is a way to use digital technology to somehow induce a mind altering state in humans that is both dangerous, and implied to be addictive, if even for its ease of use, potentially unlimited and freely available supply, and that it can do bodily harm in the same way that drugs which are illegal, or illegally used, can.  But her article spends too much valuable text space on binaurul sound, and its definition, while stating that &#8220;digital drugs&#8221; are not binaural sound.</p>
<p>3)  Ms. Komando did not in fact write an effective warning to parents about this supposed danger.  Assuming that she did intend to do as is evidenced on the surface, and warn parents of this potential danger, she ran off half-cocked.  No evidence was cited, linking any digital media or media player, audio or video, to an actual altered stete of mind.  She did not cite any laboratory findings.  She referenced no personal experience in the matter.  </p>
<p>4)  Ms. Komando, for all this warning, has raised a far greater potential for perpetuating this supposed danger by writing a controversial topic that it is reasonable to expect that some over protective parents will remove any and all music from their children post-haste, and others will research the buzz words of &#8216;binaural&#8217; and &#8216;digital drugs&#8217;, and may even pioneer new research into this supposedly/potentially dangerous new world.</p>
<p>5)  I don&#8217;t need to read USA Today ever again.  A paper as supposedly reputable as this one, that would allow something like this to come to print under its label, isn&#8217;t worth my time, or yours.</p>
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