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	<title>Comments on: How-To: Web server on a business card (Part 1)</title>
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		<title>By: Nathan Zadoks</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-159110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan Zadoks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@...: Ever seen a clock divider that divides by 488.28125? I don&#039;t think so..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@&#8230;: Ever seen a clock divider that divides by 488.28125? I don&#8217;t think so..</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-154809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The WIB in my SMT version has proven to be bulletproof and a great little device, I recently added an LCD display with clock function that is kept accurate via an NST server, Brek in Australia reworked Mauro&#039;s code (the original had 7 segment LED displays) :-( to work with the LCD and it has vertically scolling digits.....very neat looking.
Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WIB in my SMT version has proven to be bulletproof and a great little device, I recently added an LCD display with clock function that is kept accurate via an NST server, Brek in Australia reworked Mauro&#8217;s code (the original had 7 segment LED displays) :-( to work with the LCD and it has vertically scolling digits&#8230;..very neat looking.<br />
Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Squirrel</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-154733</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Squirrel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve used ICL3232 (=MAX3232) in a serial level converter, which takes RS232 level on one side and takes voltage supply from the other side and outputs at that level (either 3.3V or 5V).  Good for chips like this that can&#039;t take 5.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used ICL3232 (=MAX3232) in a serial level converter, which takes RS232 level on one side and takes voltage supply from the other side and outputs at that level (either 3.3V or 5V).  Good for chips like this that can&#8217;t take 5.</p>
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		<title>By: potech</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-139370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[potech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 13:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that is very cool really]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is very cool really</p>
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		<title>By: Dave (VA7DB)</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-129825</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave (VA7DB)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Jim,
         Yes I agree the PIC&#039;s are neat little devices and really quite capable....Ian did a great job with the little server too.....I have to say that I&#039;ve gone over to the dark side recently though and have been playing with another PIC server(33FJ64) in the WIB design from Silicon Chip mag in Australia...great little server and seemingly bullet proof.
Unfortunately though Mauro doesn&#039;t share his source code like Ian did.
Take a looksee here: http://siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_111778/article.html
Great to hear of more builders though !!  Dave
Vancouver BC Canada.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jim,<br />
         Yes I agree the PIC&#8217;s are neat little devices and really quite capable&#8230;.Ian did a great job with the little server too&#8230;..I have to say that I&#8217;ve gone over to the dark side recently though and have been playing with another PIC server(33FJ64) in the WIB design from Silicon Chip mag in Australia&#8230;great little server and seemingly bullet proof.<br />
Unfortunately though Mauro doesn&#8217;t share his source code like Ian did.<br />
Take a looksee here: <a href="http://siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_111778/article.html" rel="nofollow">http://siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_111778/article.html</a><br />
Great to hear of more builders though !!  Dave<br />
Vancouver BC Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-129784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its good to see the pic getting some love. Ive used pic&#039;s since I taught my self to code in ASM. I always get the cold shoulder from hack sites because I use Pic. I just find the super low cost to implement smashes the code availability for things like arduino. Awesome post hackaday! Keep them coming !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its good to see the pic getting some love. Ive used pic&#8217;s since I taught my self to code in ASM. I always get the cold shoulder from hack sites because I use Pic. I just find the super low cost to implement smashes the code availability for things like arduino. Awesome post hackaday! Keep them coming !</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Culver</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-116111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Culver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There seems to be a little something odd with your site when opened in opera . Its odd because everything is all twisted up looking. you may want to take a look at it. Also, in case you are interested I found a good site to get &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fastbusinesscardsonline.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fast business cards online&lt;/a&gt; for cheap]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a little something odd with your site when opened in opera . Its odd because everything is all twisted up looking. you may want to take a look at it. Also, in case you are interested I found a good site to get <a href="http://www.fastbusinesscardsonline.net" rel="nofollow">fast business cards online</a> for cheap</p>
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		<title>By: Dave (VA7DB)</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-110486</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave (VA7DB)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi J.A.   Glad you found the little server interesting....one of my pages was the control page for 4 LED&#039;s (testing reliability of hardware with Ramon&#039;s code update) and the other is up now with pictures of the inside of the one server.
take a looksee via this redirector link:
http://microserver.yolasite.com/
Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi J.A.   Glad you found the little server interesting&#8230;.one of my pages was the control page for 4 LED&#8217;s (testing reliability of hardware with Ramon&#8217;s code update) and the other is up now with pictures of the inside of the one server.<br />
take a looksee via this redirector link:<br />
<a href="http://microserver.yolasite.com/" rel="nofollow">http://microserver.yolasite.com/</a><br />
Dave</p>
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		<title>By: J.A</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-110412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is so cool. This is why i love DIY things]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is so cool. This is why i love DIY things</p>
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		<title>By: Dave (VA7DB)</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-87382</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave (VA7DB)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ian very kindly gave us all a page with a link to where the live Micro Server V2 is running and discussion of firmware mods etc is taking place. This is an especially good place for folks new to the project to see how it all functions and get access to the latest topics, FAQ’s etc.
http://whereisian.com/forum/index.php?topic=51.0]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian very kindly gave us all a page with a link to where the live Micro Server V2 is running and discussion of firmware mods etc is taking place. This is an especially good place for folks new to the project to see how it all functions and get access to the latest topics, FAQ’s etc.<br />
<a href="http://whereisian.com/forum/index.php?topic=51.0" rel="nofollow">http://whereisian.com/forum/index.php?topic=51.0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-83573</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Dude, Yeah, it&#039;s not a simple task learning to write the code but actually programming the PIC is relatively easy, the instructions that come with the programmer are straight forward enough.
There are lots of books around to teach programming but my old brain seems to prefer hardware :-)
I have my unit complete and working but our local ISP blocks port 80 so we had to change the code to run on 81, it works fine but still having local issues getting around the ISP  / router and redirecting folks to port 81.

Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dude, Yeah, it&#8217;s not a simple task learning to write the code but actually programming the PIC is relatively easy, the instructions that come with the programmer are straight forward enough.<br />
There are lots of books around to teach programming but my old brain seems to prefer hardware :-)<br />
I have my unit complete and working but our local ISP blocks port 80 so we had to change the code to run on 81, it works fine but still having local issues getting around the ISP  / router and redirecting folks to port 81.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: whispers</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-83532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whispers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[off topic a bit...

but where can a complete noobie go to start learning how to program PIC24f microcontrollers?

I have flashed some before..with other peoples HEX files.. but want to understand/leanr and start writing my own code to control/manipulate the chip.

thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>off topic a bit&#8230;</p>
<p>but where can a complete noobie go to start learning how to program PIC24f microcontrollers?</p>
<p>I have flashed some before..with other peoples HEX files.. but want to understand/leanr and start writing my own code to control/manipulate the chip.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-77833</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Board built and ready to program PIC, need help with ICSP (which circuit to use..I found the various messages very confusing )
Any helpful pointers appreciated.....can&#039;t afford the Microchip (commercial) programmers!
Thanks  Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Board built and ready to program PIC, need help with ICSP (which circuit to use..I found the various messages very confusing )<br />
Any helpful pointers appreciated&#8230;..can&#8217;t afford the Microchip (commercial) programmers!<br />
Thanks  Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Kaidor</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-56096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry Kaidor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VERY interesting info here!  I was doing a project with the 16F876A - just got frustrated with software issues: 8 level stack, software can&#039;t read it, no pushes, no pops.  No local variables - just umpteen &quot;temp&quot; variables.  And the contortions you have to go through to have some strings in ROM?

I looked at the 18F parts - 16 stack positions?  Ugh.  Went for the gold with the 24F and a REAL STACK.  Would have gone straight to the 32bit parts except they&#039;re apparently not available in DIP.  And I&#039;m not good enough at Toner Transfer ( yet ) to want to mess with surface mount. 

   Somebody wondered what such a small part could do - useful - as a webserver.  I figure that any little gadget you might build that needs a console of some kind could do it with a server.  Don&#039;t need buttons, lights and switches.  Don&#039;t need fancy expensive displays, either.  Just an Ethernet connector in front.  Maybe a power switch.  Or maybe not.  Make the &quot;front panel&quot; as fancy as you want, it&#039;s just HTML.

                - Jerry Kaidor]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VERY interesting info here!  I was doing a project with the 16F876A &#8211; just got frustrated with software issues: 8 level stack, software can&#8217;t read it, no pushes, no pops.  No local variables &#8211; just umpteen &#8220;temp&#8221; variables.  And the contortions you have to go through to have some strings in ROM?</p>
<p>I looked at the 18F parts &#8211; 16 stack positions?  Ugh.  Went for the gold with the 24F and a REAL STACK.  Would have gone straight to the 32bit parts except they&#8217;re apparently not available in DIP.  And I&#8217;m not good enough at Toner Transfer ( yet ) to want to mess with surface mount. </p>
<p>   Somebody wondered what such a small part could do &#8211; useful &#8211; as a webserver.  I figure that any little gadget you might build that needs a console of some kind could do it with a server.  Don&#8217;t need buttons, lights and switches.  Don&#8217;t need fancy expensive displays, either.  Just an Ethernet connector in front.  Maybe a power switch.  Or maybe not.  Make the &#8220;front panel&#8221; as fancy as you want, it&#8217;s just HTML.</p>
<p>                &#8211; Jerry Kaidor</p>
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		<title>By: jaymus</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/09/18/web-server-on-a-business-card-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-50848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaymus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m trying to find a cheap programmer for this board. I&#039;ve already built it, but I didn&#039;t worry too much about programming it at first. 

This site looks somewhat relevant, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s what I really want (may be helpful to others): http://www.melabs.com/support/3v_icsp.htm

Upon further investigation, it seems to me like the way to go is buy a $35 PICKit2 USB programmer from here: http://www.microchipdirect.com/productsearch.aspx?Keywords=PG164120

I found a site where someone made a similar programmer themself, though I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth it in this case: http://www.mcuhobby.com/articles.php?article_id=7

According to the supported device list (http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&amp;nodeId=1406&amp;dDocName=en027813) the PICKit2 indeed can program the PIC24f used for this project. However I&#039;m not certain it can program the PIC while it&#039;s on the board.

If anyone could provide extra information on programming this thing, that&#039;d be super awesome.

Cheers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to find a cheap programmer for this board. I&#8217;ve already built it, but I didn&#8217;t worry too much about programming it at first. </p>
<p>This site looks somewhat relevant, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s what I really want (may be helpful to others): <a href="http://www.melabs.com/support/3v_icsp.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.melabs.com/support/3v_icsp.htm</a></p>
<p>Upon further investigation, it seems to me like the way to go is buy a $35 PICKit2 USB programmer from here: <a href="http://www.microchipdirect.com/productsearch.aspx?Keywords=PG164120" rel="nofollow">http://www.microchipdirect.com/productsearch.aspx?Keywords=PG164120</a></p>
<p>I found a site where someone made a similar programmer themself, though I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth it in this case: <a href="http://www.mcuhobby.com/articles.php?article_id=7" rel="nofollow">http://www.mcuhobby.com/articles.php?article_id=7</a></p>
<p>According to the supported device list (<a href="http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&#038;nodeId=1406&#038;dDocName=en027813" rel="nofollow">http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&#038;nodeId=1406&#038;dDocName=en027813</a>) the PICKit2 indeed can program the PIC24f used for this project. However I&#8217;m not certain it can program the PIC while it&#8217;s on the board.</p>
<p>If anyone could provide extra information on programming this thing, that&#8217;d be super awesome.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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