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	<title>Comments on: Avoiding OS fingerprinting in Windows</title>
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		<title>By: choyal</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/04/avoiding-os-fingerprinting-in-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-78034</link>
		<dc:creator>choyal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if we are using iplog this will also help us in making OS detection fail because all tools are use winpcap library to check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we are using iplog this will also help us in making OS detection fail because all tools are use winpcap library to check.</p>
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		<title>By: Wwhat</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/04/avoiding-os-fingerprinting-in-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-44792</link>
		<dc:creator>Wwhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the page and the mention of mtu and scaling, but that&#039;s not all it does, but I hope the program does report it all.
And it can be damn hard to get to the bottom of what windows does in regards to its TCP stack, I&#039;ve been there, half of it is undocumented and more than half controlled by registry settings, which again are very specific to which windows and which version pack, but that part is also poorly documented, the microsoft site lists some stuff as being applicable to w2k but it is in fact functional in XP, but not all of it, only testing can tell, it&#039;s quite the mess trying to get to the bottom of stuff.
Oh and did I mention some registry settings are only used when other settings are set in a specific way, and/or have been added by the user because they are not present by default?
Nightmarish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the page and the mention of mtu and scaling, but that&#8217;s not all it does, but I hope the program does report it all.<br />
And it can be damn hard to get to the bottom of what windows does in regards to its TCP stack, I&#8217;ve been there, half of it is undocumented and more than half controlled by registry settings, which again are very specific to which windows and which version pack, but that part is also poorly documented, the microsoft site lists some stuff as being applicable to w2k but it is in fact functional in XP, but not all of it, only testing can tell, it&#8217;s quite the mess trying to get to the bottom of stuff.<br />
Oh and did I mention some registry settings are only used when other settings are set in a specific way, and/or have been added by the user because they are not present by default?<br />
Nightmarish.</p>
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		<title>By: Circs</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/04/avoiding-os-fingerprinting-in-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-44744</link>
		<dc:creator>Circs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to draw attention to this for the whiny penguins among us.

53.7% of Hack-a-day&#039;s readers hit this site with XP, while only 8.5% are using Linux. http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&amp;s=sm6hackaday&amp;r=19

@wwhat: Sounds like a way to learn a lot about your network to me. Also I&#039;m pretty certain that he *does* tell you exactly what it changes, right on the page H-a-D links to.

@richo: Linux in my opinion is the best out there, I&#039;ve been using most anything you can name since about 89. However I have one rig that dual boots... So i guess i can see some of your point.

And mad props to iron geek for getting more in depth in these kind of oddities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to draw attention to this for the whiny penguins among us.</p>
<p>53.7% of Hack-a-day&#8217;s readers hit this site with XP, while only 8.5% are using Linux. <a href="http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&amp;s=sm6hackaday&amp;r=19" rel="nofollow">http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&amp;s=sm6hackaday&amp;r=19</a></p>
<p>@wwhat: Sounds like a way to learn a lot about your network to me. Also I&#8217;m pretty certain that he *does* tell you exactly what it changes, right on the page H-a-D links to.</p>
<p>@richo: Linux in my opinion is the best out there, I&#8217;ve been using most anything you can name since about 89. However I have one rig that dual boots&#8230; So i guess i can see some of your point.</p>
<p>And mad props to iron geek for getting more in depth in these kind of oddities.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Esler</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/04/avoiding-os-fingerprinting-in-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-44612</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Esler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Props to Iron Geek again.. he always seems to pump out some good stuff.. and is responsive in emails too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Props to Iron Geek again.. he always seems to pump out some good stuff.. and is responsive in emails too.</p>
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		<title>By: richo</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/04/avoiding-os-fingerprinting-in-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-44602</link>
		<dc:creator>richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm.. to all you &quot;linux is t3h r0xors!&quot; Kiddies, what basis for comparison have you got? I&#039;ve run linux for 10+ years, but it&#039;s not the be all and end all. Right now i&#039;m on osX, at work i&#039;m on vista. My server is FreeBSD. One of my DB machines is Irix, another HP UX. Horses for courses, as all things.

That said, windows machines SHOULD NOT be exposed to unfriendlies, and SHOULD NOT be responsible for their own security.

My windows networks pull everything from their Unix domain controller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm.. to all you &#8220;linux is t3h r0xors!&#8221; Kiddies, what basis for comparison have you got? I&#8217;ve run linux for 10+ years, but it&#8217;s not the be all and end all. Right now i&#8217;m on osX, at work i&#8217;m on vista. My server is FreeBSD. One of my DB machines is Irix, another HP UX. Horses for courses, as all things.</p>
<p>That said, windows machines SHOULD NOT be exposed to unfriendlies, and SHOULD NOT be responsible for their own security.</p>
<p>My windows networks pull everything from their Unix domain controller.</p>
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		<title>By: Wwhat</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/04/avoiding-os-fingerprinting-in-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-44463</link>
		<dc:creator>Wwhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not let a utility change my network settings without knowing exactly what it changed, look at the MTU changes for instance, that alone can already thoroughly mess up your network, that&#039;s not just &#039;fun&#039; but has quite an impact on your system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not let a utility change my network settings without knowing exactly what it changed, look at the MTU changes for instance, that alone can already thoroughly mess up your network, that&#8217;s not just &#8216;fun&#8217; but has quite an impact on your system.</p>
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		<title>By: Circs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Circs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I found this quite interesting. I&#039;d really like my server to show up as a dreamcast. It just adds another layer of obscurity, which alone isn&#039;t the best defense, but combined with other security measures is pretty cool.

@happypenguin: Although my entire network and my cluster are all Linux I&#039;m going to have to say that stating windows&#039; inferiority and treating win users like they&#039;re below you isn&#039;t going to win many converts. 

@aka-44: Have you done better? On the chance you have, submit it to hack a day.  (However personally I&#039;d like to put your internet in read only mode.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I found this quite interesting. I&#8217;d really like my server to show up as a dreamcast. It just adds another layer of obscurity, which alone isn&#8217;t the best defense, but combined with other security measures is pretty cool.</p>
<p>@happypenguin: Although my entire network and my cluster are all Linux I&#8217;m going to have to say that stating windows&#8217; inferiority and treating win users like they&#8217;re below you isn&#8217;t going to win many converts. </p>
<p>@aka-44: Have you done better? On the chance you have, submit it to hack a day.  (However personally I&#8217;d like to put your internet in read only mode.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/04/avoiding-os-fingerprinting-in-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-44432</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh piss off with the &#039;not a hack&#039; posts. We get it, it /isn&#039;t/ a hack, but for what it&#039;s worth, some of these posts are quite informative otherwise. So, if you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t think it&#039;s a hack, or are just posting for the sake of it, lay off. You can go out, start your own blog, and try to find a minimum of one innovative hack a day.

&#039;Nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh piss off with the &#8216;not a hack&#8217; posts. We get it, it /isn&#8217;t/ a hack, but for what it&#8217;s worth, some of these posts are quite informative otherwise. So, if you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a hack, or are just posting for the sake of it, lay off. You can go out, start your own blog, and try to find a minimum of one innovative hack a day.</p>
<p>&#8216;Nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: aka-44</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/04/avoiding-os-fingerprinting-in-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-44423</link>
		<dc:creator>aka-44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>notta hack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>notta hack.</p>
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		<title>By: happypinguin</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/04/avoiding-os-fingerprinting-in-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-44421</link>
		<dc:creator>happypinguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best way to change your windows fingertip is to replace it with linux. 100% guaranteed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to change your windows fingertip is to replace it with linux. 100% guaranteed.</p>
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