Comments on: Chrome and Firefox showing JavaScript improvements

By: Misha Peterschick

Misha Peterschick — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 00:18:09 +0000

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By: recep ivedik 3 izle

recep ivedik 3 izle — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:50:35 +0000

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By: mrr

mrr — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:18:15 +0000

opera is TEH browser!

By: SmartAlx

SmartAlx — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:39:38 +0000

Yeah I’m surprised that Opera is still in business too since it’s constantly being ignored in the polls.

You know that Opera innovated most of the things you Firefox and Chrome fans love, right? And they perfected them years and years ago where they are still buggy on Firefox and Chrome.

By: Wwhat

Wwhat — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:17:05 +0000

Since some people spend every waking moment for years just monitoring every byte FF uses to bitch about it I think them separating the processes might lead to those maniacs blowing up their houses :) But I do agree they should separate the parts more, not every tab but at least the main program from the scripting and plugins like flash and such.
I always wondered why people complain so much about the RAM use of FF, but when a mouse or keyboard driver like logitech’s uses 50MB for something that should take 0.5MB there’s much less complaining heard, perhaps it’s a leftover from legitimate complaints about memory leaks in old FF, because that’s something you can and should complain about but a lot of the complaining types probably don’t know the difference between ‘use’ and ‘leak’.

By: matt

matt — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:48:12 +0000

I would have liked to see Safari 4 on there, as it’s quite speedy as well…

By: Spork

Spork — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:31:01 +0000

process isolation has been asked of the mozilla team for quite some time. check the forums, the listservs, and bug trackers. they have, to date, refused to explore it.

yes. refused.

By: herpderp

herpderp — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:46:16 +0000

spork – “refuses?” Chrome has afaik pioneered the process-per-page browser, it probably is better (especially for dealing with buggy extensions) but it’s also a rather fundamental change. You can’t expect mozilla to re-engineer their huge and complicated source tree overnight.

By: Spork

Spork — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:50:05 +0000

Speed only matter so much as long as Firefox refuses to implement process isolation. When one tab hangs, the whole browser hangs. Chrome does not have that problem.

It’s really amusing to see so many Firefox loyalists (I’m posting this from FF, BTW) so deathly afraid of a process improvement from a new browser. Kinda like how IE drones were with Firefox…

Just relax, people. The more solid browsers there are contending for our usage, the better off we’ll all be.

By: J.R.H

J.R.H — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:47:23 +0000

@wwhat; anything that breaks self-modifying code can only be a good thing.

By: Wwhat

Wwhat — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:16:18 +0000

Oh one more observation, what struck me is that chrome from what I hear first compiles java and then runs it, it’s not doing the interpreting thing, so does it do that in these tests too? and if so I’m guessing tracemonkey (and opera if there’s even remotely truth to rasz comment) does that too then?
And won’t that mess with some code that expects it to not be compiles, self-modifying code perhaps?

Anyway I might not get the next firefox because of this: “Firefox 3.1 will introduce geolocation to the mix, streamlining the process required to get information from web sites based on your location. In the current release of Firefox, you needed to install the previously mentioned Geode extension to get this functionality, but it comes baked into 3.1.”
That crap is totally unacceptable to me, even if I can turn it off I want to make a stand against it, I hate the localization of the internet, it’s the curse of so many sites and getting worse and worse and worse.

By: Wwhat

Wwhat — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:50:48 +0000

My fear is that when they improve java speed the coders using it will just end up doing less effort to make their code fast and it’ll all equal out again for the enduser, just like with normal code, we have stuff that works as fast now as that the stuff that did the same worked on a 166MHz pentium. all the speed increases of the CPU are mostly nullified by poorly written code :/

By: rasz

rasz — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:49:55 +0000

stock opera (NON beta) gets 3200 in this test on my weak celeron computer

By: O Mattos

O Mattos — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:47:32 +0000

Fast javascript is abslutely vital for the web, particularly in media-rick environments. Imagine how good it would be to be able to write a 3d game with software rendering entirely in javascript with reasonable performance using the canvas tag.

(a bit like here: http://www.abrahamjoffe.com.au/ben/canvascape/)

By: pod

pod — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:28:03 +0000

javascrpt is useless without a proper flash support..
firefox is still a step ahead of chrome