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	<title>Comments on: Exersize for a good cause, cold beer</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-112844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like my beer chilled by slave labor as much as anyone else, but I prefer naked Indonesian women packing ice on their heads down the side of a mountain.  But that&#039;s just me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like my beer chilled by slave labor as much as anyone else, but I prefer naked Indonesian women packing ice on their heads down the side of a mountain.  But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-51116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey almost_there, I agree. who can get over the fact that they guy looks like jerry garcia!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey almost_there, I agree. who can get over the fact that they guy looks like jerry garcia!?</p>
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		<title>By: diymaker</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-48792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[diymaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[go green, cool beer waiting after exercise, but fruit juice would be better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go green, cool beer waiting after exercise, but fruit juice would be better.</p>
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		<title>By: tbare</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-48703</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tbare]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah.. until he started using this bike to chill his beer... then he lost a lot of weight!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah.. until he started using this bike to chill his beer&#8230; then he lost a lot of weight!</p>
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		<title>By: RT (Panzer Time!)</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-48670</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RT (Panzer Time!)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nah, he was fatter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, he was fatter.</p>
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		<title>By: Almost_There</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-48660</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Almost_There]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, ain&#039;t that Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead?

I thought he liked heroin, not beer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, ain&#8217;t that Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead?</p>
<p>I thought he liked heroin, not beer.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-48654</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hahaha

Roland Mösl is everywhere on the Internetz
(the guy on the bike)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha</p>
<p>Roland Mösl is everywhere on the Internetz<br />
(the guy on the bike)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-48612</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Food calories on US labels are actually kilocalories. Also, the body is about 25% efficient. It&#039;s better to compare Watt output and Joules. One Joule of output energy burns about 1 calorie (1/1000 food calories).

If a 12oz glass has 150 calories (typical), you would have to output 150kiloJoules. If you want to burn two beers per hour, that&#039;s 83 Watts output for an hour (very easy for someone who can run a mile in under 10 minutes, takes walks daily, or does some form of regular exercise).

It is left as an exercise to reader to determine if this meets or exceeds the requirements for cooling a beer.

Also note that a bike chain is typically 97% efficient (wow!). I&#039;m not sure how efficient this cooling process is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Food calories on US labels are actually kilocalories. Also, the body is about 25% efficient. It&#8217;s better to compare Watt output and Joules. One Joule of output energy burns about 1 calorie (1/1000 food calories).</p>
<p>If a 12oz glass has 150 calories (typical), you would have to output 150kiloJoules. If you want to burn two beers per hour, that&#8217;s 83 Watts output for an hour (very easy for someone who can run a mile in under 10 minutes, takes walks daily, or does some form of regular exercise).</p>
<p>It is left as an exercise to reader to determine if this meets or exceeds the requirements for cooling a beer.</p>
<p>Also note that a bike chain is typically 97% efficient (wow!). I&#8217;m not sure how efficient this cooling process is.</p>
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		<title>By: TRAVIS</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-48581</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TRAVIS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;so easy, even a caveman can do it&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;so easy, even a caveman can do it&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthias]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my suggestion as A/C technican would be to change the little compressor into a bigger four-step type, maybe a six-cylinder from york. So you could switch between different grades on your virtual ride.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my suggestion as A/C technican would be to change the little compressor into a bigger four-step type, maybe a six-cylinder from york. So you could switch between different grades on your virtual ride.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-48570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dirk, there is one problem with your numbers.  In regards to food labels, I believe one food Calorie is actually is actually 1000 calories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dirk, there is one problem with your numbers.  In regards to food labels, I believe one food Calorie is actually is actually 1000 calories.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor Alexander</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-48569</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taylor Alexander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@dirk
&quot;Food Calories&quot; in the U.S. are actually kilocalories, so one beer that says it has 300 &quot;calories&quot;, actually has 300,000 scientific calories, so you&#039;d have to heat up a LOT of water to break even.
-Taylor]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dirk<br />
&#8220;Food Calories&#8221; in the U.S. are actually kilocalories, so one beer that says it has 300 &#8220;calories&#8221;, actually has 300,000 scientific calories, so you&#8217;d have to heat up a LOT of water to break even.<br />
-Taylor</p>
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		<title>By: F.</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-48566</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, it&#039;s spelled &quot;exercise&quot;. Don&#039;t worry, had to look it up too. Being of the geeky persuasion, the word isn&#039;t exactly part of our everyday vocabulary, understandably enough. :p]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s spelled &#8220;exercise&#8221;. Don&#8217;t worry, had to look it up too. Being of the geeky persuasion, the word isn&#8217;t exactly part of our everyday vocabulary, understandably enough. :p</p>
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		<title>By: RT (Panzer Time!)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RT (Panzer Time!)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s with the misspelling?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s with the misspelling?</p>
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		<title>By: dirk</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/10/31/exersize-for-a-good-cause-cold-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-48563</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dirk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[be nice if there were more details.

I wonder how many calories you&#039;d burn chilling one beer? If you could make it come out even, this would be pretty sweet.

If a beer is approximately 336 grams of water, and one calorie will heat one gram of water by one degree celsius, and we assume that this process is 100 percent efficient backwards, that means you&#039;d actually burn almost three times the caloric content of the beer cooling it (more if it&#039;s light!).

Of course, this doesn&#039;t take into account the fact that you&#039;d have to submerge the can in water, providing a greater thermal mass and making it that much more difficult to cool the beer.

At any rate, we can assume that you burn more energy than you consume.


Unless I&#039;m wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be nice if there were more details.</p>
<p>I wonder how many calories you&#8217;d burn chilling one beer? If you could make it come out even, this would be pretty sweet.</p>
<p>If a beer is approximately 336 grams of water, and one calorie will heat one gram of water by one degree celsius, and we assume that this process is 100 percent efficient backwards, that means you&#8217;d actually burn almost three times the caloric content of the beer cooling it (more if it&#8217;s light!).</p>
<p>Of course, this doesn&#8217;t take into account the fact that you&#8217;d have to submerge the can in water, providing a greater thermal mass and making it that much more difficult to cool the beer.</p>
<p>At any rate, we can assume that you burn more energy than you consume.</p>
<p>Unless I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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