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		<title>By: thompsonjem</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/04/election-night-holographic-interviews/comment-page-1/#comment-91674</link>
		<dc:creator>thompsonjem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 

really too good, I like it

http://www.lasersec.in</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi </p>
<p>really too good, I like it</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lasersec.in" rel="nofollow">http://www.lasersec.in</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dracc</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/04/election-night-holographic-interviews/comment-page-1/#comment-51273</link>
		<dc:creator>Dracc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately the video linked to in the article is a much more elegant and REAL technology. The Gorillaz concerts were created using the Musion Eyeliner technology, a variation on Pepper&#039;s ghost. The images are still 2D, but are projected onto a meshed projection screen that is nearly invisble under dark lighting conditions, so that they appear to exist 3Dimensionally suspended in space. The Gorillaz are actually visible to the live audience. CNN&#039;s crap is no more complicated than drawing lines on a football field in realtime. For slightly more information check out http://www.eyeliner3d.com/musion_eyeliner_mechanics.html for the real deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the video linked to in the article is a much more elegant and REAL technology. The Gorillaz concerts were created using the Musion Eyeliner technology, a variation on Pepper&#8217;s ghost. The images are still 2D, but are projected onto a meshed projection screen that is nearly invisble under dark lighting conditions, so that they appear to exist 3Dimensionally suspended in space. The Gorillaz are actually visible to the live audience. CNN&#8217;s crap is no more complicated than drawing lines on a football field in realtime. For slightly more information check out <a href="http://www.eyeliner3d.com/musion_eyeliner_mechanics.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.eyeliner3d.com/musion_eyeliner_mechanics.html</a> for the real deal.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnJ</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/04/election-night-holographic-interviews/comment-page-1/#comment-49781</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They described 30+ high def cameras in the tent, but the quality was seriously low as we saw.

If anyone caught the (one time?) demonstration of the house of representatives on the holographic table an hour before the Princess Leia demo, it reminded me of ARToolkit and a video overlay with tracking.

Then I spotted that ARToolkit already has something along the Leia lines called 3D-Live, which runs at QVGA (PAL) res of 352x288 using 15 cameras.  Demo videos online already look better than what CNN came up with.

I suppose the problem was that they were feeding all of the video input from offsite back to HQ to render the angles, which is a terrible waste of bandwidth IMHO.

It likely would have worked much batter if they shot from waist up and placed the virtual actor behind a desk with a single angle.  Obviously, still utilizing the imagination of the actor sitting next to them, but they could be looking at an off-set screen like weather folks usually do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They described 30+ high def cameras in the tent, but the quality was seriously low as we saw.</p>
<p>If anyone caught the (one time?) demonstration of the house of representatives on the holographic table an hour before the Princess Leia demo, it reminded me of ARToolkit and a video overlay with tracking.</p>
<p>Then I spotted that ARToolkit already has something along the Leia lines called 3D-Live, which runs at QVGA (PAL) res of 352&#215;288 using 15 cameras.  Demo videos online already look better than what CNN came up with.</p>
<p>I suppose the problem was that they were feeding all of the video input from offsite back to HQ to render the angles, which is a terrible waste of bandwidth IMHO.</p>
<p>It likely would have worked much batter if they shot from waist up and placed the virtual actor behind a desk with a single angle.  Obviously, still utilizing the imagination of the actor sitting next to them, but they could be looking at an off-set screen like weather folks usually do.</p>
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		<title>By: neelster</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/04/election-night-holographic-interviews/comment-page-1/#comment-49239</link>
		<dc:creator>neelster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worst stunt ever.  It&#039;s not THAT technologically advanced they just the resolution of the digital image (on tv...obviously there&#039;s nothing in the studio) is horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worst stunt ever.  It&#8217;s not THAT technologically advanced they just the resolution of the digital image (on tv&#8230;obviously there&#8217;s nothing in the studio) is horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: RWL</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/04/election-night-holographic-interviews/comment-page-1/#comment-49167</link>
		<dc:creator>RWL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gian: no, the fact that the image did *not* appear in the studio with blitzer means that it&#039;s fake. it was just video effects, nothing more. not even cutting-edge effects, either.

so that blitzer would know what they were doing, the guests&#039; images were displayed on a monitor in the studio.  and there was a bright painted circle on the stage, so he&#039;d know where to face so it appeared he was looking at a real image.

I call *fake* on cnn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gian: no, the fact that the image did *not* appear in the studio with blitzer means that it&#8217;s fake. it was just video effects, nothing more. not even cutting-edge effects, either.</p>
<p>so that blitzer would know what they were doing, the guests&#8217; images were displayed on a monitor in the studio.  and there was a bright painted circle on the stage, so he&#8217;d know where to face so it appeared he was looking at a real image.</p>
<p>I call *fake* on cnn!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite part was how Wolf described her being inside some complicated tent that took three weeks to assemble. They must have the same tent I have.... man that thing is impossible to set up. I rarely even bother attaching the hadron collider, not to mention the holograph module.

Cheesiest effect ever, for sure. They should have actually had ILM come in and do it right instead of just making the star wars jokes and looking stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part was how Wolf described her being inside some complicated tent that took three weeks to assemble. They must have the same tent I have&#8230;. man that thing is impossible to set up. I rarely even bother attaching the hadron collider, not to mention the holograph module.</p>
<p>Cheesiest effect ever, for sure. They should have actually had ILM come in and do it right instead of just making the star wars jokes and looking stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: gian</title>
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		<dc:creator>gian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there was greenscreen involved. How do you think they separated the ones being interviewed from their background? This does not mean it&#039;s fake!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there was greenscreen involved. How do you think they separated the ones being interviewed from their background? This does not mean it&#8217;s fake!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gosh</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/04/election-night-holographic-interviews/comment-page-1/#comment-49139</link>
		<dc:creator>Gosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is a great disturbance in the force! someone has stolen our technology! send in the tie fighters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is a great disturbance in the force! someone has stolen our technology! send in the tie fighters!</p>
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		<title>By: klecu</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/04/election-night-holographic-interviews/comment-page-1/#comment-49137</link>
		<dc:creator>klecu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if they made it look worse just so people would think it was a real hologram.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if they made it look worse just so people would think it was a real hologram.</p>
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		<title>By: fartface</title>
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		<dc:creator>fartface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What they did was a very poor Green screen effect.

what Gorrillaz did is based on real tech...
http://www.eyeliner3d.com/

and having seen it in person  it&#039;s not as good as you think it is, but way more impressive than the really lame CNN trick from the 70&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What they did was a very poor Green screen effect.</p>
<p>what Gorrillaz did is based on real tech&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.eyeliner3d.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eyeliner3d.com/</a></p>
<p>and having seen it in person  it&#8217;s not as good as you think it is, but way more impressive than the really lame CNN trick from the 70&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: strider_mt2k</title>
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		<dc:creator>strider_mt2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Emperor will now sit still for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Emperor will now sit still for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Iv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gorillaz used a semi-transparent glass at a 45° angle between the public and the scene. The projection is made from the bottom. It is not holographic. You only get only one POV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gorillaz used a semi-transparent glass at a 45° angle between the public and the scene. The projection is made from the bottom. It is not holographic. You only get only one POV</p>
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		<title>By: Xeracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xeracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously though, when I saw this on TV,  (after all the &#039;help me wolf blitzer, you&#039;re my only hope&#039; jokes) Its really just 3 cameras that capture him from the front, back and a side. This is what I equate to Wolfenstein 3D&#039;s Ray-Casting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously though, when I saw this on TV,  (after all the &#8216;help me wolf blitzer, you&#8217;re my only hope&#8217; jokes) Its really just 3 cameras that capture him from the front, back and a side. This is what I equate to Wolfenstein 3D&#8217;s Ray-Casting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb Kraft</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/04/election-night-holographic-interviews/comment-page-1/#comment-49112</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb Kraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jake of all trades
  you get a cookie, good call.

Yeah, this looks just like compositing with matched camera angles. Very similar to what we do in the 3d animation industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jake of all trades<br />
  you get a cookie, good call.</p>
<p>Yeah, this looks just like compositing with matched camera angles. Very similar to what we do in the 3d animation industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake of All Trades</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/04/election-night-holographic-interviews/comment-page-1/#comment-49111</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake of All Trades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do I win for calling it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do I win for calling it?</p>
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