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		<title>By: Adrenaline Junkie</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50558</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrenaline Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously... gtfo politics had. political opinions are like a^^holes: everyone has one and nobody wants to see yours.

nobody with half a wit thinks that anything will &#039;improve&#039; under any administration in regards to privacy. privacy has been increasingly devalued with every administration since the Cold War broke out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously&#8230; gtfo politics had. political opinions are like a^^holes: everyone has one and nobody wants to see yours.</p>
<p>nobody with half a wit thinks that anything will &#8216;improve&#8217; under any administration in regards to privacy. privacy has been increasingly devalued with every administration since the Cold War broke out.</p>
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		<title>By: Wwhat</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50451</link>
		<dc:creator>Wwhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me but didn&#039;t I hear the new VP is known for being mad enthusiast about MORE assaults on online privacy rather than fixing the thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me but didn&#8217;t I hear the new VP is known for being mad enthusiast about MORE assaults on online privacy rather than fixing the thing?</p>
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		<title>By: cornelius785</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50377</link>
		<dc:creator>cornelius785</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rusty

I agree on &#039;if you can catch the signal it’s fair game&#039; if it applies to the RF spectrum.  I don&#039;t think a &#039;signal&#039; is fair game if you have to &#039;hack&#039; a system to get access to the signal without a warrant, sort of like wiretapping phone lines, packet sniffing on any sort of wired newtwork, and similar.

Depending on how things go in the next few years, I could easily see everyday use of encryption increase dramatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rusty</p>
<p>I agree on &#8216;if you can catch the signal it’s fair game&#8217; if it applies to the RF spectrum.  I don&#8217;t think a &#8217;signal&#8217; is fair game if you have to &#8216;hack&#8217; a system to get access to the signal without a warrant, sort of like wiretapping phone lines, packet sniffing on any sort of wired newtwork, and similar.</p>
<p>Depending on how things go in the next few years, I could easily see everyday use of encryption increase dramatically.</p>
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		<title>By: static</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50375</link>
		<dc:creator>static</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True FISA has been around for a while, however the Shrub decided that he didn&#039;t have to follow the rules of FISA. Anyway does the EFF, really believe the new administration really can bring change?I guess it couldn&#039;t hurt to to try and give it chance to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True FISA has been around for a while, however the Shrub decided that he didn&#8217;t have to follow the rules of FISA. Anyway does the EFF, really believe the new administration really can bring change?I guess it couldn&#8217;t hurt to to try and give it chance to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Túlio</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50349</link>
		<dc:creator>Túlio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ITT.: People losing the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ITT.: People losing the point.</p>
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		<title>By: crobicha</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50348</link>
		<dc:creator>crobicha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@h_2_0: Why is an article about electronic privacy on a website devoted to hacking? Are you serious? This is a very serious issue that will have a real effect on our lives, and as hackers it will probably affect us more than most.

I don&#039;t understand why some people get all upset when the articles cover the political and other real world applications of hacking, rather than just posting schematics of the latest gadget. Schematics are great, but we have to keep in mind the real issues that are occurring in the world, what their effects on us are and how we can become active in shaping them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@h_2_0: Why is an article about electronic privacy on a website devoted to hacking? Are you serious? This is a very serious issue that will have a real effect on our lives, and as hackers it will probably affect us more than most.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why some people get all upset when the articles cover the political and other real world applications of hacking, rather than just posting schematics of the latest gadget. Schematics are great, but we have to keep in mind the real issues that are occurring in the world, what their effects on us are and how we can become active in shaping them.</p>
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		<title>By: rusty</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50342</link>
		<dc:creator>rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say open the gates!  if you can catch the signal it&#039;s fair game.  Likewise you&#039;re welcome to protect it in any way you see fit.  Drives me nuts that folks can refuse to understand something but still feel entitled to use it.  If they don&#039;t want to understand it they can pay for someone to protect it for them, and stop paying if that protection isn&#039;t good enough.  
but that goes for the gov too, be smart with your info, treat it like your virginity, the consequences are the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say open the gates!  if you can catch the signal it&#8217;s fair game.  Likewise you&#8217;re welcome to protect it in any way you see fit.  Drives me nuts that folks can refuse to understand something but still feel entitled to use it.  If they don&#8217;t want to understand it they can pay for someone to protect it for them, and stop paying if that protection isn&#8217;t good enough.<br />
but that goes for the gov too, be smart with your info, treat it like your virginity, the consequences are the same.</p>
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		<title>By: canuck</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50341</link>
		<dc:creator>canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>h_2_o is right, Bush was not the first to president to bend the laws of privacy... and he certainly won&#039;t be the last.  Our new President Elect just recently voted FOR extending FISA.  Does that make him a bad person?  Well, no...  but it does show that he will pretty much continue the work/allowances of a long list of presidents who preceded him.

Oddly enough this is an article about the electronic frontier foundation and their wants and desires from the new leadership.  I know that this first agenda was one of three so I might be beating them to the punch but:

Our new administration is entertaining the idea of re-instating/iniating a new Fairness Doctrine that would make the old one look like a joke.  The new doctrine wants to extend to the internet, as well.  Many of you will take this as a joke but it is not.  That means if &#039;they&#039; have issue with anything you say or write on the internet, &#039;they&#039; have the authority to &#039;edit&#039; it or take it down altogether.  

That could make Hackaday a fun place...  or maybe not.  While Hackaday is mostly innocuous, I can assure you that many of the techniques that are discussed and linked to from this website would most likely be considered ethically sticky if/when the doctrine is enacted.

It isn&#039;t all about politics and I make no apologies for Bush as he has certainly done some things that would make anyone scratch their head and say WTF?!!!  But the least of your problems are behind you.  That is not a comment about Obama, but rather a comment about the grass always being greener on the other side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>h_2_o is right, Bush was not the first to president to bend the laws of privacy&#8230; and he certainly won&#8217;t be the last.  Our new President Elect just recently voted FOR extending FISA.  Does that make him a bad person?  Well, no&#8230;  but it does show that he will pretty much continue the work/allowances of a long list of presidents who preceded him.</p>
<p>Oddly enough this is an article about the electronic frontier foundation and their wants and desires from the new leadership.  I know that this first agenda was one of three so I might be beating them to the punch but:</p>
<p>Our new administration is entertaining the idea of re-instating/iniating a new Fairness Doctrine that would make the old one look like a joke.  The new doctrine wants to extend to the internet, as well.  Many of you will take this as a joke but it is not.  That means if &#8216;they&#8217; have issue with anything you say or write on the internet, &#8216;they&#8217; have the authority to &#8216;edit&#8217; it or take it down altogether.  </p>
<p>That could make Hackaday a fun place&#8230;  or maybe not.  While Hackaday is mostly innocuous, I can assure you that many of the techniques that are discussed and linked to from this website would most likely be considered ethically sticky if/when the doctrine is enacted.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t all about politics and I make no apologies for Bush as he has certainly done some things that would make anyone scratch their head and say WTF?!!!  But the least of your problems are behind you.  That is not a comment about Obama, but rather a comment about the grass always being greener on the other side.</p>
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		<title>By: poopoo</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50321</link>
		<dc:creator>poopoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite enjoy the new format.  Variety is after all, the spice of life.  Further, a little bit of politics certainly spices up the comments section.

You comments show you are not really grasping the issue here.  For example..&quot;attempting to say only one person has ever done this&quot;.  What it actually says is &quot;come to the forefront in the last eight years&quot;.  

The article doesn&#039;t imply that there were not problems in the past.  The article is saying that the new administration might be more receptive to addressing the EFF&#039;s concerns.

Why would something like that make you so angry?  Did your guy not win last week?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite enjoy the new format.  Variety is after all, the spice of life.  Further, a little bit of politics certainly spices up the comments section.</p>
<p>You comments show you are not really grasping the issue here.  For example..&#8221;attempting to say only one person has ever done this&#8221;.  What it actually says is &#8220;come to the forefront in the last eight years&#8221;.  </p>
<p>The article doesn&#8217;t imply that there were not problems in the past.  The article is saying that the new administration might be more receptive to addressing the EFF&#8217;s concerns.</p>
<p>Why would something like that make you so angry?  Did your guy not win last week?</p>
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		<title>By: h_2_o</title>
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		<dc:creator>h_2_o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am perfectly aware of fisa and the patriot act.  I would guess that most only know of patriot act stuff and therefore believe that this type of activity has only occurred within the time since 9/11, well it has been going on for a freaking long time.  this was basically a political jab taken at the patriot act IMHO.  I do not care if you are for or against the patriot act, putting BS like this up here and only telling about 1/100&#039;th of it and just leaving it at that is garbage.  also it has absolutely ZERO!!!!! to do with anything hacking.  this site really has went to sh*t since they changed their format from hacking to mini engadget/gizmodo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am perfectly aware of fisa and the patriot act.  I would guess that most only know of patriot act stuff and therefore believe that this type of activity has only occurred within the time since 9/11, well it has been going on for a freaking long time.  this was basically a political jab taken at the patriot act IMHO.  I do not care if you are for or against the patriot act, putting BS like this up here and only telling about 1/100&#8242;th of it and just leaving it at that is garbage.  also it has absolutely ZERO!!!!! to do with anything hacking.  this site really has went to sh*t since they changed their format from hacking to mini engadget/gizmodo.</p>
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		<title>By: poopoo</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50308</link>
		<dc:creator>poopoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ h_2_o ...hack a day needs articles like this so people like yourself can become informed about amendments made to fisa, why they are problematic and how they can be changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ h_2_o &#8230;hack a day needs articles like this so people like yourself can become informed about amendments made to fisa, why they are problematic and how they can be changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50305</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mat:

you&#039;re thinking of the billboard liberation front (BLF). they claim to leave some good booze for the advertisers&#039; &quot;cleanup crews&quot; stashed on the billboards that they improve. all in the blf seems like good folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mat:</p>
<p>you&#8217;re thinking of the billboard liberation front (BLF). they claim to leave some good booze for the advertisers&#8217; &#8220;cleanup crews&#8221; stashed on the billboards that they improve. all in the blf seems like good folks.</p>
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		<title>By: mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is real, a billboard modification group did it. I forget their name. they do all kinds of crap like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is real, a billboard modification group did it. I forget their name. they do all kinds of crap like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Manifesto</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50291</link>
		<dc:creator>Manifesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be on the safe side, I just record my conversations onto my talkboy from 1992 and send it to the person I want to talk to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be on the safe side, I just record my conversations onto my talkboy from 1992 and send it to the person I want to talk to.</p>
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		<title>By: dexter</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/10/the-effs-privacy-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-50283</link>
		<dc:creator>dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder if that picture is real. anyone know?</description>
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