Comments on: Liquid Tree http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/ Fresh hacks every day Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:22:04 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mario http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-57630 Mario Fri, 02 Jan 2009 08:05:20 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-57630 well i thought like ur going to show us how to do it? well i thought like ur going to show us how to do it?

]]> By: Alcoholic http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50544 Alcoholic Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:54:11 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50544 itt: A bunch of high school kids who don't understand environmental issues. itt: A bunch of high school kids who don’t understand environmental issues.

]]> By: Jesse http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50540 Jesse Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:25:08 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50540 @loers: dude, nobody is talking about polar bears, al gore or global warming. Water rights have always been an issue, long before being "green" was cool. While some people may try and tie the GW scare into water rights(and nobody here did, FYI), the issue has always been population growth and distribution in areas already scarce of water. This isn't something the prius crowd concocted in between gulps of al gore love juice. @loers: dude, nobody is talking about polar bears, al gore or global warming. Water rights have always been an issue, long before being “green” was cool. While some people may try and tie the GW scare into water rights(and nobody here did, FYI), the issue has always been population growth and distribution in areas already scarce of water. This isn’t something the prius crowd concocted in between gulps of al gore love juice.

]]> By: strider_mt2k http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50538 strider_mt2k Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:16:43 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50538 This site is so full of crybabies it's insane. Person imagined thing and built it, it works, shared it with world. This site is so full of crybabies it’s insane.

Person imagined thing and built it, it works, shared it with world.

]]> By: ragnar http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50529 ragnar Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:11:29 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50529 Brilliant project, well done! I don't understand what people have to rant about the eco background (which is more than fine to me) but don't waste a single word about the actual project, which needs quite a bit of craft(wo-)mansship, not programing skills alone. I like it! Brilliant project, well done!
I don’t understand what people have to rant about the eco background (which is more than fine to me) but don’t waste a single word about the actual project, which needs quite a bit of craft(wo-)mansship, not programing skills alone. I like it!

]]> By: jordan http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50524 jordan Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:03:49 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50524 its not really about being green so much as trying to evolve to a more sustainable society so that we can stick around longer without exhausting all of our resources. try thinking about the world your kids and your kids' kids will live in for once, instead of the current situation. a single species is a poor choice to base the condition of the environment on. its not really about being green so much as trying to evolve to a more sustainable society so that we can stick around longer without exhausting all of our resources. try thinking about the world your kids and your kids’ kids will live in for once, instead of the current situation. a single species is a poor choice to base the condition of the environment on.

]]> By: loers http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50520 loers Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:17:52 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50520 You "green" people are just nuts! Granted the liquid tree is pretty cool and I would think it would cool to have on in the bathroom for my young kids. GREEN GREEN GREEN... I am so sick of hearing about green this green that... and how the polar bears are all going to die! Do the research and you see that the polar bear population increased through the roof. Stop allowing others do the thinking for you and think for youself! You “green” people are just nuts! Granted the liquid tree is pretty cool and I would think it would cool to have on in the bathroom for my young kids.

GREEN GREEN GREEN… I am so sick of hearing about green this green that… and how the polar bears are all going to die! Do the research and you see that the polar bear population increased through the roof. Stop allowing others do the thinking for you and think for youself!

]]> By: pollution ??? http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50475 pollution ??? Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:20:11 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50475 Dont forget about water polluted with things such TCE (trichloroethylene) which is heavier then water. It plumes underground and spreads with groundwater. The federal government has found TCE at 614 (47%) of the nation's 1300 official Superfund sites Many of these sites are most likely to be near a water supply. Example what happend in Woburn MA and cancer rates. Long hot showers also put more into your air if your water is contaminated with it. Dont forget about water polluted with things such TCE (trichloroethylene) which is heavier then water. It plumes underground and spreads with groundwater. The federal government has found TCE at 614 (47%) of the
nation’s 1300 official Superfund sites
Many of these sites are most likely to be near a water supply. Example what happend in Woburn MA and cancer rates. Long hot showers also put more into your air if your water is contaminated with it.

]]> By: jordan http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50473 jordan Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:57:14 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50473 It is depressing to hear how many posts are putting down the conservation of water and how important it can be. As some posters have mentioned it is not necessarily a problem in your own backyard but rather those further down the river. Rain does not automatically mean more water to use, it is incredibly naive to be so shortsighted and say water conservation is a crock of shit. Groundwater aquifers take a long time to recharge and excessive draw down can permanently damage the water table in some areas. It is depressing to hear how many posts are putting down the conservation of water and how important it can be. As some posters have mentioned it is not necessarily a problem in your own backyard but rather those further down the river. Rain does not automatically mean more water to use, it is incredibly naive to be so shortsighted and say water conservation is a crock of shit. Groundwater aquifers take a long time to recharge and excessive draw down can permanently damage the water table in some areas.

]]> By: Jesse http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50455 Jesse Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:51:31 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50455 Ecomentalists aside, water scarcity has been an issue for some communities since they were founded. Water rights, conservation, scarcity and drought has been an issue in Colorado for a long time. A farmer even once dried up the Colorado River! The water you use doesn't all make it's way neatly back into nature to replenish itself. Some communities are heavily dependent on rain or snow pack to replenish aquifers and reservoirs. You can indeed waste water, or at least use it faster than it can be replenished. Denver has had water restrictions on and off for years, so it's definitely a serious issue for some. Perhaps the device isn't relevant to you or your community, but it is to others. Either way the project is neat. Ecomentalists aside, water scarcity has been an issue for some communities since they were founded. Water rights, conservation, scarcity and drought has been an issue in Colorado for a long time. A farmer even once dried up the Colorado River! The water you use doesn’t all make it’s way neatly back into nature to replenish itself. Some communities are heavily dependent on rain or snow pack to replenish aquifers and reservoirs. You can indeed waste water, or at least use it faster than it can be replenished. Denver has had water restrictions on and off for years, so it’s definitely a serious issue for some.

Perhaps the device isn’t relevant to you or your community, but it is to others. Either way the project is neat.

]]> By: Wwhat http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50443 Wwhat Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:20:24 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50443 I don't waste water in the shower, showering is good, and long showers keep me sane. Also water doesn't disappear, it'll flow back into nature and how can clean water flowing in nature be bad? Only issue can be the energy you used to clean it originally, and since most water is groundwater that's not too much of an issue, and if you have to use power for the pumps, well you can use green power created with renewable resources. In short all the water saving talk is pure BS unless you live in a third world desert region, and I wish people would stop that nonsense already to be honest. I don’t waste water in the shower, showering is good, and long showers keep me sane.
Also water doesn’t disappear, it’ll flow back into nature and how can clean water flowing in nature be bad? Only issue can be the energy you used to clean it originally, and since most water is groundwater that’s not too much of an issue, and if you have to use power for the pumps, well you can use green power created with renewable resources.
In short all the water saving talk is pure BS unless you live in a third world desert region, and I wish people would stop that nonsense already to be honest.

]]> By: Dagnabbit http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50441 Dagnabbit Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:16:43 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50441 Waste power while wasting water ? I love it, plus when I get sick and tired of all this green BS I can electrocute myself! Hurray!!! Waste power while wasting water ? I love it, plus when I get sick and tired of all this green BS I can electrocute myself! Hurray!!!

]]> By: Cort http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50433 Cort Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:46:12 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50433 From what I can tell, the device have two rheostats which controls their respective stepper motor through a arduino. The tubes with coloured liquids are sealed and only partially filled, with have plenty of slack behind the front panel. The stepper motor is connected to the slack part of the tube via a string (can hardly see it in the photo) and as it turns, it lowers the tube causing the liquid in the front to flow to the slack part behind. It doesn't appear to be connected to the water system at all. Presumably, the user is suppose to gauge his water usage rate and set the rheostat accordingly. Looks nice, but technically not all that impressive. From what I can tell, the device have two rheostats which controls their respective stepper motor through a arduino. The tubes with coloured liquids are sealed and only partially filled, with have plenty of slack behind the front panel. The stepper motor is connected to the slack part of the tube via a string (can hardly see it in the photo) and as it turns, it lowers the tube causing the liquid in the front to flow to the slack part behind.

It doesn’t appear to be connected to the water system at all. Presumably, the user is suppose to gauge his water usage rate and set the rheostat accordingly. Looks nice, but technically not all that impressive.

]]> By: nuffnuff http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50432 nuffnuff Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:46:11 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50432 frame that response and reread in a decade for a good giggle jaded frame that response and reread in a decade for a good giggle jaded

]]> By: jaded http://hackaday.com/2008/11/11/liquid-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-50424 jaded Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:57:27 +0000 http://hackadaycom.wordpress.com/?p=5760#comment-50424 I'm not particularly interested in saving water. Saving water is a Californian thing; they have no water because they live in a freaking desert! Want to save water in California? Pack up the U-Haul and move to someplace that has water! Idiots. I’m not particularly interested in saving water. Saving water is a Californian thing; they have no water because they live in a freaking desert! Want to save water in California? Pack up the U-Haul and move to someplace that has water! Idiots.

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