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	<title>Comments on: Company shutdown causes 2/3rds drop in all spam</title>
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		<title>By: etgryphon</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/12/company-shutdown-causes-23rds-drop-in-all-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-78401</link>
		<dc:creator>etgryphon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In seemingly unrelated news, the economy of Nigeria has suffered a major setback, but the one bright spot is the funeral business due to the increase for wealthy widowed tourists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In seemingly unrelated news, the economy of Nigeria has suffered a major setback, but the one bright spot is the funeral business due to the increase for wealthy widowed tourists.</p>
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		<title>By: kaonashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaonashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is an old topic, but just check out http://www.spamcop.net/spamgraph.shtml?spamyear and see how it was just a minor setback to spammers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is an old topic, but just check out <a href="http://www.spamcop.net/spamgraph.shtml?spamyear" rel="nofollow">http://www.spamcop.net/spamgraph.shtml?spamyear</a> and see how it was just a minor setback to spammers.</p>
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		<title>By: Artiume</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artiume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this really isn&#039;t a solution because it just cut off the head to the spambots, the body (being zombie computers) need to be fixed. It doesn&#039;t really matter if the people who were in control of the spambots had their internet disconnected because they&#039;ll eventually find a new source and just reconnect to the zombie computers. If people really want a solution, they themselves need to take better care of their privacy because I&#039;m sure there was a point in time where a computer you owned turned into a zombie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this really isn&#8217;t a solution because it just cut off the head to the spambots, the body (being zombie computers) need to be fixed. It doesn&#8217;t really matter if the people who were in control of the spambots had their internet disconnected because they&#8217;ll eventually find a new source and just reconnect to the zombie computers. If people really want a solution, they themselves need to take better care of their privacy because I&#8217;m sure there was a point in time where a computer you owned turned into a zombie.</p>
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		<title>By: mrlipring</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrlipring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tf - the Glasgow thing was a pathetic attempt at terrorism. They managed to set themselves on fire, then get punched in the face.

It could&#039;ve been worse, but it somehow seems wrong to lump it in with real terrorist attacks with real casualties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tf &#8211; the Glasgow thing was a pathetic attempt at terrorism. They managed to set themselves on fire, then get punched in the face.</p>
<p>It could&#8217;ve been worse, but it somehow seems wrong to lump it in with real terrorist attacks with real casualties.</p>
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		<title>By: TF</title>
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		<dc:creator>TF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blizzarddemon: 

I guess 9/11, Madrid, London, and Glasgow were all victims of fantasy terrorism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blizzarddemon: </p>
<p>I guess 9/11, Madrid, London, and Glasgow were all victims of fantasy terrorism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS IS SPAM!
THIS IS SPAM!
THIS IS SPAM!


LOLL kidding!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS SPAM!<br />
THIS IS SPAM!<br />
THIS IS SPAM!</p>
<p>LOLL kidding!</p>
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		<title>By: amk</title>
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		<dc:creator>amk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phishing sites will be back up as soon as they get their domains transferred.  The armies of zombie spammers might be hit a little harder, but they&#039;ll recover.  The guys who build these networks are not stupid, I&#039;d be really surprised if you can disable them by shutting down control servers belonging to a single host.

There will be little lasting effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phishing sites will be back up as soon as they get their domains transferred.  The armies of zombie spammers might be hit a little harder, but they&#8217;ll recover.  The guys who build these networks are not stupid, I&#8217;d be really surprised if you can disable them by shutting down control servers belonging to a single host.</p>
<p>There will be little lasting effect.</p>
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		<title>By: nuckinfutz</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuckinfutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inbound spam traffic to our Barracuda went down about 50% yesterday from the day before (6000 from an average of 12000-ish).  Only showing around 4000 so far today.  It&#039;s working.  It&#039;s really working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inbound spam traffic to our Barracuda went down about 50% yesterday from the day before (6000 from an average of 12000-ish).  Only showing around 4000 so far today.  It&#8217;s working.  It&#8217;s really working.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ josh:

Doesn&#039;t contract law cover this sort of thing?
We haven&#039;t passed any US Network Neutrality legislation (yet). So, -assuming that they don&#039;t have a contract that says otherwise- any network operator can legally cut off anyone else whenever they feel like, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ josh:</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t contract law cover this sort of thing?<br />
We haven&#8217;t passed any US Network Neutrality legislation (yet). So, -assuming that they don&#8217;t have a contract that says otherwise- any network operator can legally cut off anyone else whenever they feel like, right?</p>
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		<title>By: draeath</title>
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		<dc:creator>draeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@josh:

They were hosting child porn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@josh:</p>
<p>They were hosting child porn.</p>
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		<title>By: cde</title>
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		<dc:creator>cde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Josh, spamming is a crime, jailable evenn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Josh, spamming is a crime, jailable evenn</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as blizzarddemon mentioned, this is just a temporary setback for those who send spam. They&#039;ll find some other place to set up shop. Then that one will be shutdown, etc. So, expect that graph to start ramping back up sometime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as blizzarddemon mentioned, this is just a temporary setback for those who send spam. They&#8217;ll find some other place to set up shop. Then that one will be shutdown, etc. So, expect that graph to start ramping back up sometime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A take on Martin Niemöller&#039;s poem,

&quot;They came first for the spam servers, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t spamming;

And then they came for the &quot;terror&quot; servers, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a &quot;terrorist&quot;;

And then they came for the religious servers, And I didn’t speak up because I was agnostic;

And then . . . they came for my server . . . And by that time there were no sites left to speak up.&quot; 

Takeing down a hosting company because its customers break the law seems fine.  Taking down a company because it serves people/sites you hate is very dangerous.  The freedom that gives spammers the ability to operate also gives sites like this and yours the ability to operate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A take on Martin Niemöller&#8217;s poem,</p>
<p>&#8220;They came first for the spam servers, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t spamming;</p>
<p>And then they came for the &#8220;terror&#8221; servers, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a &#8220;terrorist&#8221;;</p>
<p>And then they came for the religious servers, And I didn’t speak up because I was agnostic;</p>
<p>And then . . . they came for my server . . . And by that time there were no sites left to speak up.&#8221; </p>
<p>Takeing down a hosting company because its customers break the law seems fine.  Taking down a company because it serves people/sites you hate is very dangerous.  The freedom that gives spammers the ability to operate also gives sites like this and yours the ability to operate.</p>
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		<title>By: blizzarddemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>blizzarddemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bastards had it coming to them, but getting rid of spam is like trying to rid the world of the fantasy terrorism Americans like to preach on about. Most people don&#039;t know what the hell they&#039;re talking about in regard to the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bastards had it coming to them, but getting rid of spam is like trying to rid the world of the fantasy terrorism Americans like to preach on about. Most people don&#8217;t know what the hell they&#8217;re talking about in regard to the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Alcoholic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alcoholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but now how will I find out how to stimulate her deep pink grotto?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but now how will I find out how to stimulate her deep pink grotto?</p>
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