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		<title>By: Tyler J</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-66187</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One could just detect the +difference in distance between signals: Just have a sonar detector set up a constant (walking on level ground) and then only go off when it detects a positive change in distance past a certain threshold.

But, I don&#039;t know anything about hardware =(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One could just detect the +difference in distance between signals: Just have a sonar detector set up a constant (walking on level ground) and then only go off when it detects a positive change in distance past a certain threshold.</p>
<p>But, I don&#8217;t know anything about hardware =(</p>
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		<title>By: le'chef</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51994</link>
		<dc:creator>le'chef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Void detection could be made pretty accurate if one added a accelerometer at the location of a forward and down pointing ultrasonic transducer. Work out relative position from the accelerometer and subtract from the ranging data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Void detection could be made pretty accurate if one added a accelerometer at the location of a forward and down pointing ultrasonic transducer. Work out relative position from the accelerometer and subtract from the ranging data.</p>
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		<title>By: Live for Improvement</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51937</link>
		<dc:creator>Live for Improvement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really neat, you should incorporate ear plugs that hum and change pitch as you get closer. That way you can gauge how far something is almost like a metall detector.

-Dan Malone-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really neat, you should incorporate ear plugs that hum and change pitch as you get closer. That way you can gauge how far something is almost like a metall detector.</p>
<p>-Dan Malone-</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51897</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody remember this from startrek?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody remember this from startrek?</p>
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		<title>By: PKM</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51860</link>
		<dc:creator>PKM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not just blind people- I want one of these for the sides of my bike jacket, as a bit of advance warning when some &#039;tard in a 4x4 forgets how road junctions work and drives straight into my blind spot.

It could be combined with the turn signal jacket: http://www.instructables.com/id/turn-signal-biking-jacket/
http://hackaday.com/2008/06/22/turn-signal-jacket-how-to/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just blind people- I want one of these for the sides of my bike jacket, as a bit of advance warning when some &#8216;tard in a 4&#215;4 forgets how road junctions work and drives straight into my blind spot.</p>
<p>It could be combined with the turn signal jacket: <a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/turn-signal-biking-jacket/" rel="nofollow">http://www.instructables.com/id/turn-signal-biking-jacket/</a><br />
<a href="http://hackaday.com/2008/06/22/turn-signal-jacket-how-to/" rel="nofollow">http://hackaday.com/2008/06/22/turn-signal-jacket-how-to/</a></p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51825</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If further developed, a blind person could appreciate this kind of innovation and not have to wear 50 lbs of equipment like previous guidance electronics. Great idea, you could market this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If further developed, a blind person could appreciate this kind of innovation and not have to wear 50 lbs of equipment like previous guidance electronics. Great idea, you could market this.</p>
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		<title>By: japhy</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51819</link>
		<dc:creator>japhy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>detecting voids is just an inverse of whatever&#039;s detecting solids, right?

Solid: 1 == BUZZ
Void:  0 == BUZZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>detecting voids is just an inverse of whatever&#8217;s detecting solids, right?</p>
<p>Solid: 1 == BUZZ<br />
Void:  0 == BUZZ</p>
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		<title>By: cde</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51779</link>
		<dc:creator>cde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would of course add tolerances for moving up and down. What you would be looking for is a large change in c, as a(length) and b(height) would have minor changes. C, the angle from the sensor to the floor would need to change by 1&#039; foot or more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would of course add tolerances for moving up and down. What you would be looking for is a large change in c, as a(length) and b(height) would have minor changes. C, the angle from the sensor to the floor would need to change by 1&#8242; foot or more.</p>
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		<title>By: thyme3421</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51776</link>
		<dc:creator>thyme3421</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good ideas... a large issue with this would be change of input, as the legs would be moving... so the change is constantly happening. 

of course movement would depend on where the sensor is mounted. near the zipper at the base of the jacket might work, but there&#039;s still a good amount of movement there... at the end of the sleeves would be ok, at least the person could keep their hand steady.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good ideas&#8230; a large issue with this would be change of input, as the legs would be moving&#8230; so the change is constantly happening. </p>
<p>of course movement would depend on where the sensor is mounted. near the zipper at the base of the jacket might work, but there&#8217;s still a good amount of movement there&#8230; at the end of the sleeves would be ok, at least the person could keep their hand steady.</p>
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		<title>By: cde</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51768</link>
		<dc:creator>cde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use the a^2 + b^2 = c^2 formula. If you know the height, the angle, and the length (A b and c), a change to any of them would trigger the signal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use the a^2 + b^2 = c^2 formula. If you know the height, the angle, and the length (A b and c), a change to any of them would trigger the signal.</p>
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		<title>By: J4y</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51767</link>
		<dc:creator>J4y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the idea about shoes having some kind of range finder sounds the one to try first. Question is how much warning does a person need to stop in time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea about shoes having some kind of range finder sounds the one to try first. Question is how much warning does a person need to stop in time?</p>
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		<title>By: Ghrayfahx</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51762</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghrayfahx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking she could use the same as the presence detection, but pointed at a 15 degree downangle. Then just make it vibrate (Differently prefferably) when it no longer detects something within a predetermined range. It should constantly detect unless there&#039;s a void. have it only trigger when it loses input. Loss detectors are pretty simple and commonplace in the sensor world, so it should be easy to come across/build.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking she could use the same as the presence detection, but pointed at a 15 degree downangle. Then just make it vibrate (Differently prefferably) when it no longer detects something within a predetermined range. It should constantly detect unless there&#8217;s a void. have it only trigger when it loses input. Loss detectors are pretty simple and commonplace in the sensor world, so it should be easy to come across/build.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Nardella</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51752</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Nardella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps a range finding device mounted on the wearers shin pointing just in front of their shoe.

-Edward@Nardella.ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a range finding device mounted on the wearers shin pointing just in front of their shoe.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:-Edward@Nardella.ca">-Edward@Nardella.ca</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51747</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Possibly use some kind of analogue input device for the void detection? Like some kind of elongated wooden object perhaps? We will call this object a &quot;stick&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly use some kind of analogue input device for the void detection? Like some kind of elongated wooden object perhaps? We will call this object a &#8220;stick&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: localroger</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/11/20/sonar-navigation-jacket/comment-page-1/#comment-51745</link>
		<dc:creator>localroger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For steps down, the thing would be to apply the same principle to the soles of shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For steps down, the thing would be to apply the same principle to the soles of shoes.</p>
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