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		<title>By: sikiş</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/02/turn-your-car-into-a-hybrid/comment-page-2/#comment-65168</link>
		<dc:creator>sikiş</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hımm Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hımm Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeSmartGuy</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/02/turn-your-car-into-a-hybrid/comment-page-2/#comment-54318</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeSmartGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and web... you are such a conformist...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and web&#8230; you are such a conformist&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SomeSmartGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeSmartGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>simon templar, you have lost your bs&#039;in mind. the difference between the rpms is amps! more rpms, them ore amps your alternator can dish out!... the voltage is maintained by a regulator. Those motor wheels? Absolute waste of time, as far as i am concerned, if the car doesn&#039;t run fully on gas or electric.... tis not a hybrid.... is a faster way to pay for more gas, cept you do it early on... seriously... buy a hybrid, save on gas? yeah buy a hybrid, pay for your future gas now!@@# on sale at walmart!! low prices because you fill a smaller tank dipsh!t$</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simon templar, you have lost your bs&#8217;in mind. the difference between the rpms is amps! more rpms, them ore amps your alternator can dish out!&#8230; the voltage is maintained by a regulator. Those motor wheels? Absolute waste of time, as far as i am concerned, if the car doesn&#8217;t run fully on gas or electric&#8230;. tis not a hybrid&#8230;. is a faster way to pay for more gas, cept you do it early on&#8230; seriously&#8230; buy a hybrid, save on gas? yeah buy a hybrid, pay for your future gas now!@@# on sale at walmart!! low prices because you fill a smaller tank dipsh!t$</p>
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		<title>By: web</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/02/turn-your-car-into-a-hybrid/comment-page-2/#comment-53942</link>
		<dc:creator>web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought this was cool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought this was cool</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if this would work but if you drew off the alternator while decellerating which would be it&#039;s own form of regenerative breaking for the engine. 

Just trigger it when the break lights are on for a second for some hysteresis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this would work but if you drew off the alternator while decellerating which would be it&#8217;s own form of regenerative breaking for the engine. </p>
<p>Just trigger it when the break lights are on for a second for some hysteresis.</p>
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		<title>By: mrdelayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrdelayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what happens if I bolt one of these onto a Prius?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what happens if I bolt one of these onto a Prius?</p>
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		<title>By: polymath</title>
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		<dc:creator>polymath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>car efficiency arguments aside... I want to see some one  hack this and mount it on their motorcycle. since steering and suspension mechanisms on a bike are considerably less complex than they are a car this has real potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>car efficiency arguments aside&#8230; I want to see some one  hack this and mount it on their motorcycle. since steering and suspension mechanisms on a bike are considerably less complex than they are a car this has real potential.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that looks like im being a smart ass kinda but im not</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that looks like im being a smart ass kinda but im not</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/02/turn-your-car-into-a-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-53501</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS LOOKS ENTERTAINING nice potencial for hacks
they have some dc regen braking as well although im not up 2 date with the tech do a google search and see</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS LOOKS ENTERTAINING nice potencial for hacks<br />
they have some dc regen braking as well although im not up 2 date with the tech do a google search and see</p>
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		<title>By: _matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>_matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately Ken, I can&#039;t go 80mph on one of those bikes.

Regenerative breaking is useful, once you realize the amount of energy it takes to stop something that heavy.

If you want efficiency, get a motorcycle, 60+ mpg.

Pure-electric vehicles may have a low price/gallon, but what you save in gas you spend on new batteries every few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately Ken, I can&#8217;t go 80mph on one of those bikes.</p>
<p>Regenerative breaking is useful, once you realize the amount of energy it takes to stop something that heavy.</p>
<p>If you want efficiency, get a motorcycle, 60+ mpg.</p>
<p>Pure-electric vehicles may have a low price/gallon, but what you save in gas you spend on new batteries every few years.</p>
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		<title>By: UEDan</title>
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		<dc:creator>UEDan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4WD Civic?! YES! I can finally go Rallying!
Where do I sign up!?
Right...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4WD Civic?! YES! I can finally go Rallying!<br />
Where do I sign up!?<br />
Right&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: (the first) ken</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/02/turn-your-car-into-a-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-53479</link>
		<dc:creator>(the first) ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’d rather be out on the street NOW demonstrating ...&quot;

My advice is get (and ride) a hybrid bicycle.  For $5000, you can get a really sweet one!

This hybrid car has its place, but it won&#039;t improve efficiency 30% in stop and go traffic, or for trips around town where there is relatively little constant speed cruising.  A hybrid bike, will deliver 1000+mpg equivalent, and make a real difference now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d rather be out on the street NOW demonstrating &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>My advice is get (and ride) a hybrid bicycle.  For $5000, you can get a really sweet one!</p>
<p>This hybrid car has its place, but it won&#8217;t improve efficiency 30% in stop and go traffic, or for trips around town where there is relatively little constant speed cruising.  A hybrid bike, will deliver 1000+mpg equivalent, and make a real difference now.</p>
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		<title>By: static</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While hybrids have their place they aren&#039;t a unviversal solution. While plugin hybrids shift the point of pollution they may pollute less in the long run. I would have rather seen the stock hubs replaced with hub motors rather than this Rube Goldberg looking affair. While this is certainly a hybrid, but an unsophisticated one. Nott he set it and forget, off the shelf item most US auto buyers are accustomed to buying. With gas at $1.699,it would take a long too pay off, but price are going to set new highs again, no doubt. In the event it was mentioned on the Poulsen Hybrid web page, I missed it. Unless this ends up raising the trade in value of the car it&#039;s initially installed on, the unit can be installed on new cars until it&#039;s components wear out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While hybrids have their place they aren&#8217;t a unviversal solution. While plugin hybrids shift the point of pollution they may pollute less in the long run. I would have rather seen the stock hubs replaced with hub motors rather than this Rube Goldberg looking affair. While this is certainly a hybrid, but an unsophisticated one. Nott he set it and forget, off the shelf item most US auto buyers are accustomed to buying. With gas at $1.699,it would take a long too pay off, but price are going to set new highs again, no doubt. In the event it was mentioned on the Poulsen Hybrid web page, I missed it. Unless this ends up raising the trade in value of the car it&#8217;s initially installed on, the unit can be installed on new cars until it&#8217;s components wear out</p>
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		<title>By: marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all you haters out there: don&#039;t buy one.

For anybody out there who has been following the plug-in hybrid scene at all, this rig sounds great. The only plug-in competitor delivering the goods right now is the add-in battery pack from Hymotion, which only fits the current generation of Prius. (And costs $10K.) Half the price and potentially fits a lot of models? Bring it on.

And for those griping about the cost, think about this. Most folks building DIY pure-electric vehicles are doing DC-based systems with lead-acid batteries, and getting 40 miles total range, but no regeneration. AC systems give you regeneration, but are $20-$30K. To me, $5K to turn my paid-for PT Cruiser into anything resembling a plug-in hybrid is a bargain. Mark me up as an &quot;early adopter&quot;. I don&#039;t want to wait years for a $40,000 Chevy Volt. I&#039;d rather be out on the street NOW demonstrating that I want to see us off oil sooner rather than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all you haters out there: don&#8217;t buy one.</p>
<p>For anybody out there who has been following the plug-in hybrid scene at all, this rig sounds great. The only plug-in competitor delivering the goods right now is the add-in battery pack from Hymotion, which only fits the current generation of Prius. (And costs $10K.) Half the price and potentially fits a lot of models? Bring it on.</p>
<p>And for those griping about the cost, think about this. Most folks building DIY pure-electric vehicles are doing DC-based systems with lead-acid batteries, and getting 40 miles total range, but no regeneration. AC systems give you regeneration, but are $20-$30K. To me, $5K to turn my paid-for PT Cruiser into anything resembling a plug-in hybrid is a bargain. Mark me up as an &#8220;early adopter&#8221;. I don&#8217;t want to wait years for a $40,000 Chevy Volt. I&#8217;d rather be out on the street NOW demonstrating that I want to see us off oil sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough discussion has occurred regarding the &quot;excess energy&quot; misconception. But I wanted to briefly comment on the misconception that hybrids have to be able to run off the electric motor only -- not at all. &quot;Parallel&quot; hybrids can have this capability (either system can provide power independently) but not necessarily -- the honda insight doesn&#039;t, for instance. But &quot;series&quot; hybrids do not (ice is a generator which powers the motor). Most &quot;hybrid&quot; cars today are a mixture of series and parallel -- the ice powers the motor and can drive the wheels independently. But still, the ability for the ice to turn off and the motor to drive independently is optional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough discussion has occurred regarding the &#8220;excess energy&#8221; misconception. But I wanted to briefly comment on the misconception that hybrids have to be able to run off the electric motor only &#8212; not at all. &#8220;Parallel&#8221; hybrids can have this capability (either system can provide power independently) but not necessarily &#8212; the honda insight doesn&#8217;t, for instance. But &#8220;series&#8221; hybrids do not (ice is a generator which powers the motor). Most &#8220;hybrid&#8221; cars today are a mixture of series and parallel &#8212; the ice powers the motor and can drive the wheels independently. But still, the ability for the ice to turn off and the motor to drive independently is optional.</p>
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