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		<title>By: Gloucestershire Locks</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/09/acrylic-tumbler-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-219111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gloucestershire Locks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfect! This is just the thing to teach someone how to open a lock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect! This is just the thing to teach someone how to open a lock.</p>
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		<title>By: shezad</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/09/acrylic-tumbler-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-63611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shezad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yaknow Gee, at the end of that, all i could think was if only my locks popped a happy face every time i turned them, i think i&#039;d have a sunnier disposition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yaknow Gee, at the end of that, all i could think was if only my locks popped a happy face every time i turned them, i think i&#8217;d have a sunnier disposition.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/09/acrylic-tumbler-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-55666</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this reminds me of the 4 locks on the safe in the spy museum in d.c. only they were not tumblers but combination locks with a timed reset.

was pretty cool, I wonder who they had make them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this reminds me of the 4 locks on the safe in the spy museum in d.c. only they were not tumblers but combination locks with a timed reset.</p>
<p>was pretty cool, I wonder who they had make them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome project this guy did, I&#039;d like to make one if I had the tools.
There are acrylic practice sets out there, I got one when I bought my first pick set. Can be found at the usual lock picking sites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome project this guy did, I&#8217;d like to make one if I had the tools.<br />
There are acrylic practice sets out there, I got one when I bought my first pick set. Can be found at the usual lock picking sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/09/acrylic-tumbler-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-54753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been picking locks for a while. I bought a lock pick kit just to give it a try and it has come in handy many times. I would have to disgree with the guy who said he could fix his kicked in door in 20 min., even the basic US suburb door that can be easily kicked open is not cheap to repair. Even if you do it yourself and use cheap components its NOT a 20 minute process. My house is probably lacking in the security department mainly because I have old windows that would easily be compromised. Someone tried to break into my house before I lived there and the broken door was still in the garage. 1930&#039;s hardwood frame decorative door with a window. The door&#039;s wood cracked at the deadbolt and the door split in half. I&#039;m not sure if this was the owner&#039;s doing or if someone actually tried to break in but at least I know my door frames are good becasue there was no sign of any damage there. 

As someone who knows lock-picking in an amateur sence I would say if you want to get a new basic lock for your house and are limited in budget to what you can afford from the home depot or whatever take a look at the keys that come with the locks and find the one with the largest end profile and smallest center, this wont stop someone from kicking down the door but will give any inexperienced lock picker a hard time. Also consider installing a steel kickplate around the lock on cheap lightweight doors, this will diperse  a kick through a larger portion of the door than just the 1/4&quot; of wood beside the deadbolt.

If someone wants to get in they will, not much you can do about it, but a security system will either make them leave before they steal stuff or possibly get the police there before they do leave. We have had a couple people caught breaking into where I work. The security system makes no noise it just calls the police, the intruders were quite surprised.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been picking locks for a while. I bought a lock pick kit just to give it a try and it has come in handy many times. I would have to disgree with the guy who said he could fix his kicked in door in 20 min., even the basic US suburb door that can be easily kicked open is not cheap to repair. Even if you do it yourself and use cheap components its NOT a 20 minute process. My house is probably lacking in the security department mainly because I have old windows that would easily be compromised. Someone tried to break into my house before I lived there and the broken door was still in the garage. 1930&#8242;s hardwood frame decorative door with a window. The door&#8217;s wood cracked at the deadbolt and the door split in half. I&#8217;m not sure if this was the owner&#8217;s doing or if someone actually tried to break in but at least I know my door frames are good becasue there was no sign of any damage there. </p>
<p>As someone who knows lock-picking in an amateur sence I would say if you want to get a new basic lock for your house and are limited in budget to what you can afford from the home depot or whatever take a look at the keys that come with the locks and find the one with the largest end profile and smallest center, this wont stop someone from kicking down the door but will give any inexperienced lock picker a hard time. Also consider installing a steel kickplate around the lock on cheap lightweight doors, this will diperse  a kick through a larger portion of the door than just the 1/4&#8243; of wood beside the deadbolt.</p>
<p>If someone wants to get in they will, not much you can do about it, but a security system will either make them leave before they steal stuff or possibly get the police there before they do leave. We have had a couple people caught breaking into where I work. The security system makes no noise it just calls the police, the intruders were quite surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Wilson</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/09/acrylic-tumbler-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-54627</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To make a home more secure, you put a good solid door and frame on all accessible exterior entrances and good locks on all those doors. Then you put window locks on all the windows. Then you put security screen doors/grilles on all exposed windows and doors (I personally like the stuff thats like fly-screen only a lot stronger). Then to finish it all, you put the stuff thats like window tinting except it stops the glass being smashed (and if you get the right kind, it can keep all the UV and heat out of the house too, great for hot climates). And you can also fit an alarm (maybe one of those ones that has guys watching it).

Thats the way to make a residential house secure (it may be possible to do more but I doubt there is anything you could do that would be worth the investment)

Even just the strong doors/frames, strong locks and window film on the glass should stop 99% of burglars (who don&#039;t care who&#039;s house they break into as long as it as has something they can steal to sell and make some cash)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make a home more secure, you put a good solid door and frame on all accessible exterior entrances and good locks on all those doors. Then you put window locks on all the windows. Then you put security screen doors/grilles on all exposed windows and doors (I personally like the stuff thats like fly-screen only a lot stronger). Then to finish it all, you put the stuff thats like window tinting except it stops the glass being smashed (and if you get the right kind, it can keep all the UV and heat out of the house too, great for hot climates). And you can also fit an alarm (maybe one of those ones that has guys watching it).</p>
<p>Thats the way to make a residential house secure (it may be possible to do more but I doubt there is anything you could do that would be worth the investment)</p>
<p>Even just the strong doors/frames, strong locks and window film on the glass should stop 99% of burglars (who don&#8217;t care who&#8217;s house they break into as long as it as has something they can steal to sell and make some cash)</p>
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		<title>By: nihilocrat</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/09/acrylic-tumbler-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-54585</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nihilocrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, surreptitious entry is cool and all, but honestly, most criminals just want to steal your crap. They know they can leave any sort of mess they want, because they know the cops aren&#039;t going to do anything about it.

If you want to second-guess me, you can ask two of my co-workers who got their homes broken into. One of them had it happen twice in the same year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, surreptitious entry is cool and all, but honestly, most criminals just want to steal your crap. They know they can leave any sort of mess they want, because they know the cops aren&#8217;t going to do anything about it.</p>
<p>If you want to second-guess me, you can ask two of my co-workers who got their homes broken into. One of them had it happen twice in the same year.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/09/acrylic-tumbler-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-54576</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice. in fact, nice enough to make me consider getting one cut locally and learning to pick with an awesome, oversize copy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice. in fact, nice enough to make me consider getting one cut locally and learning to pick with an awesome, oversize copy</p>
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		<title>By: draeath</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[draeath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed &#039;deviant ollam&#039; - I would rather know someone was in my home than not. It may not be possible to keep them out, but at least you know something happened!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed &#8216;deviant ollam&#8217; &#8211; I would rather know someone was in my home than not. It may not be possible to keep them out, but at least you know something happened!</p>
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		<title>By: Deviant Ollam</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/09/acrylic-tumbler-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-54544</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deviant Ollam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and i neglected to respond to one other key point... something that appeared in the comment thread here.

Some people have been debating the merits of using a high-quality (and thus possibly an expensive) lock in a cheap, easily-compromised door or the wisdom of putting a heavy lock and door on a house that will almost always have alternate routes of entry for a theif (like a window that can be broken)

It is important to remember that locks (particularly very reliable, high security locks) act not just as deterrents or barriers but also as a SEAL upon your premises.  If you leave for the night and your door is locked by a cheap lock, returning in the morning to see it still locked is not a guarantee that someone wasn&#039;t there anyway.

Surreptitious (also sometimes called &quot;non destructive&quot;) entry is a whole different category of security risk that some people seek to avoid.

Using a heavy lock on a properly-installed solid-core door means that if someone wants to get in to your property (regardless of whether they&#039;re a thief or an agent of the state attempting to search your home) they will have to BREAK in... shattering a window, etc.

If you return home after a night away you may indeed find that someone has been there in your absence... but you will KNOW for sure that this is the case and then have the immediate opportunity to take whatever steps are then appropriate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and i neglected to respond to one other key point&#8230; something that appeared in the comment thread here.</p>
<p>Some people have been debating the merits of using a high-quality (and thus possibly an expensive) lock in a cheap, easily-compromised door or the wisdom of putting a heavy lock and door on a house that will almost always have alternate routes of entry for a theif (like a window that can be broken)</p>
<p>It is important to remember that locks (particularly very reliable, high security locks) act not just as deterrents or barriers but also as a SEAL upon your premises.  If you leave for the night and your door is locked by a cheap lock, returning in the morning to see it still locked is not a guarantee that someone wasn&#8217;t there anyway.</p>
<p>Surreptitious (also sometimes called &#8220;non destructive&#8221;) entry is a whole different category of security risk that some people seek to avoid.</p>
<p>Using a heavy lock on a properly-installed solid-core door means that if someone wants to get in to your property (regardless of whether they&#8217;re a thief or an agent of the state attempting to search your home) they will have to BREAK in&#8230; shattering a window, etc.</p>
<p>If you return home after a night away you may indeed find that someone has been there in your absence&#8230; but you will KNOW for sure that this is the case and then have the immediate opportunity to take whatever steps are then appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Deviant Ollam</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/09/acrylic-tumbler-lock/comment-page-1/#comment-54543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deviant Ollam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a really wicked little project that this fellow put together.  I&#039;m impressed and pleased with the result.  It makes for a really great instructional aid.

I should point out a couple terminology problems, however...

1. The /pins/ of a standard lock are what can all also be known as &quot;tumblers&quot;... the part that rotates when the lock is operating is called the &quot;plug&quot;

2. The varied cuts on a &quot;blade&quot; style key are called the &quot;bitting&quot; (and for those who are curious, can be described via manufacturer&#039;s cut depths with simple integer numbers... zero is no cut, one is a very tiny cut, etc etc down to nine being the deepest cut.  one lists the bitting values from the shoulder out to the tip if you are specifying them to another person, say a locksmith who is using a code-cutting machine to make a new key for you)

Terrific work on the model... very creative and well-done.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a really wicked little project that this fellow put together.  I&#8217;m impressed and pleased with the result.  It makes for a really great instructional aid.</p>
<p>I should point out a couple terminology problems, however&#8230;</p>
<p>1. The /pins/ of a standard lock are what can all also be known as &#8220;tumblers&#8221;&#8230; the part that rotates when the lock is operating is called the &#8220;plug&#8221;</p>
<p>2. The varied cuts on a &#8220;blade&#8221; style key are called the &#8220;bitting&#8221; (and for those who are curious, can be described via manufacturer&#8217;s cut depths with simple integer numbers&#8230; zero is no cut, one is a very tiny cut, etc etc down to nine being the deepest cut.  one lists the bitting values from the shoulder out to the tip if you are specifying them to another person, say a locksmith who is using a code-cutting machine to make a new key for you)</p>
<p>Terrific work on the model&#8230; very creative and well-done.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: fartface</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fartface]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;that a forcefull shoulder will bust ANY door down by anyone who weighs 140 lbs or more.&quot;

I dare you to try that on my doors.  You need to correct yourself in &quot;will bust many low grade doors down&quot;  Any door?  I think not, not by a long shot.

My front door can take a 250 pound guy running full speed and nailing it hard without damage.  It&#039;s called a steel frame and a steel door with a real deadbolt and properly installed setup. not the el-crapo garbage sold at home improvement stores that grabs 1/4 inch of wood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;that a forcefull shoulder will bust ANY door down by anyone who weighs 140 lbs or more.&#8221;</p>
<p>I dare you to try that on my doors.  You need to correct yourself in &#8220;will bust many low grade doors down&#8221;  Any door?  I think not, not by a long shot.</p>
<p>My front door can take a 250 pound guy running full speed and nailing it hard without damage.  It&#8217;s called a steel frame and a steel door with a real deadbolt and properly installed setup. not the el-crapo garbage sold at home improvement stores that grabs 1/4 inch of wood.</p>
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		<title>By: jjrh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jjrh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[man it&#039;s bad when some ass hole kicks down your door. It was 500$ to replace our front door(with a shitty plane wood door). The locks a major piece of shit to start with. But what i&#039;m saying - don&#039;t be breaking down doors that shits pricey unless your living in the burbs with a standard sized everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man it&#8217;s bad when some ass hole kicks down your door. It was 500$ to replace our front door(with a shitty plane wood door). The locks a major piece of shit to start with. But what i&#8217;m saying &#8211; don&#8217;t be breaking down doors that shits pricey unless your living in the burbs with a standard sized everything.</p>
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		<title>By: steaky</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steaky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[saying whats the point in lockpicking is like saying whats the point in a rubix cube. its a fun puzzle that not a lot of people can do, especially on proper locks. all in all, you get what you pay for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saying whats the point in lockpicking is like saying whats the point in a rubix cube. its a fun puzzle that not a lot of people can do, especially on proper locks. all in all, you get what you pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: greg0r</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greg0r]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s the point of a more secure lock on your average home? If the door is too hard to bust open, break a window or go around back where a lot of people have large glass doors.

I think the locks on our houses are more to keep the average theif from just walking up and entering a house without contest, making it a little more obvious to neighbours when someone is picking a lock, kicking a door in, or breaking a window.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the point of a more secure lock on your average home? If the door is too hard to bust open, break a window or go around back where a lot of people have large glass doors.</p>
<p>I think the locks on our houses are more to keep the average theif from just walking up and entering a house without contest, making it a little more obvious to neighbours when someone is picking a lock, kicking a door in, or breaking a window.</p>
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