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		<title>By: y3</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-348657</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 04:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to mircosoft....:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to mircosoft&#8230;.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Sargent Fuzzy Boots</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-325119</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sargent Fuzzy Boots]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 08:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got a ViewSonic netbook that has 2 ram slots. Upgraded to 2gb of ram and overclocked the cpu to 2ghz and it runs sweet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a ViewSonic netbook that has 2 ram slots. Upgraded to 2gb of ram and overclocked the cpu to 2ghz and it runs sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: facefive</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-137447</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you guys are all pussies, my desktop pc has 256mb of ram and a 800mhz cpu.

runs lenny kde]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys are all pussies, my desktop pc has 256mb of ram and a 800mhz cpu.</p>
<p>runs lenny kde</p>
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		<title>By: techwoo</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-116515</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[techwoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Netbooks, slow thanks to Microsoft .Thanks for nice post.I added to my twitter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Netbooks, slow thanks to Microsoft .Thanks for nice post.I added to my twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-114929</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys are kind of dumb... There are people who would use a Netbook if it had more capability. I use a Mac Pro and a 17 inch MBP and i would LOVE to have a Netbook, pop OS X on it, and fill it up with 4GB of ram and have a cheap, cost effective (in terms of power usage and down time) Motion render box (because Motion uses more RAM then Processor) that can go ANYWHERE and be lighter, have better battery life then an Air and have more capability (multiple USB, BI Ethernet, SD card slot and have a built in HDMI port as a possibility). The fact that the Manufactures wont allow the 4GB chips, or add 2 DIMM slots, its kind of depressing, and there are a lot of people that i know are that would buy one if it had a 4GB cap. Its not really a limit on MS, its the chipset, don&#039;t be hating MS for something that is actually Intel&#039;s problem. There 945 chipset has a limit of 2GB. while yes, MS does limit, there are EASY ways to get around, but there is no way of getting past the hardware limitation.( as of Jan 4th 2010)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are kind of dumb&#8230; There are people who would use a Netbook if it had more capability. I use a Mac Pro and a 17 inch MBP and i would LOVE to have a Netbook, pop OS X on it, and fill it up with 4GB of ram and have a cheap, cost effective (in terms of power usage and down time) Motion render box (because Motion uses more RAM then Processor) that can go ANYWHERE and be lighter, have better battery life then an Air and have more capability (multiple USB, BI Ethernet, SD card slot and have a built in HDMI port as a possibility). The fact that the Manufactures wont allow the 4GB chips, or add 2 DIMM slots, its kind of depressing, and there are a lot of people that i know are that would buy one if it had a 4GB cap. Its not really a limit on MS, its the chipset, don&#8217;t be hating MS for something that is actually Intel&#8217;s problem. There 945 chipset has a limit of 2GB. while yes, MS does limit, there are EASY ways to get around, but there is no way of getting past the hardware limitation.( as of Jan 4th 2010)</p>
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		<title>By: deev</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-89466</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My 5 years old Fujitsu P7010 still screams at 512 MB RAM under Debian and I have absolutely no need to upgrade it. If one needs more than 1 GB on a netbook he must blame the ubiquituous use of crappy platforms such as Java or .NET where C and C++ or other native languages should be used instead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 5 years old Fujitsu P7010 still screams at 512 MB RAM under Debian and I have absolutely no need to upgrade it. If one needs more than 1 GB on a netbook he must blame the ubiquituous use of crappy platforms such as Java or .NET where C and C++ or other native languages should be used instead.</p>
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		<title>By: fortillian</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-86104</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fortillian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@MS HATERS

You guys need to take everything for what it is. Micro$oft is trying to make money. Im sure if any of you built an OS with the intentions to sell millions of copies and make tons of money you would do the same thing. Linux being a free alternative OS although very power, it lacks in useability, point and click ease and user interface for the GENERAL PUBLIC users. If your here on Hackaday talking about putting linux on your netbook to upgrade ram and blah blah then you are more then like a NOT GENERAL PUBLIC user. Get over it and stop hating on MS. Take it for what it is, and if you choose not to use it then keep your mouth shut because you more then likely have to real idea on the who, what, where, when and why of microsofts actions and business decision. Give it a rest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MS HATERS</p>
<p>You guys need to take everything for what it is. Micro$oft is trying to make money. Im sure if any of you built an OS with the intentions to sell millions of copies and make tons of money you would do the same thing. Linux being a free alternative OS although very power, it lacks in useability, point and click ease and user interface for the GENERAL PUBLIC users. If your here on Hackaday talking about putting linux on your netbook to upgrade ram and blah blah then you are more then like a NOT GENERAL PUBLIC user. Get over it and stop hating on MS. Take it for what it is, and if you choose not to use it then keep your mouth shut because you more then likely have to real idea on the who, what, where, when and why of microsofts actions and business decision. Give it a rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Spuffler</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-84676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spuffler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definitely bought the EeePC900A from BB, it definitely did not have XP on it, I definitely have only 1G.

So, I&#039;m confused by your statement: &quot;These rules are why you can’t buy a netbook with more that 1GB of RAM.&quot; makes no sense: Microsoft is not affecting hardware makers who do NOT use XP.

The statement about not being able to buy a netbook with more than 1 GB cannot be based on M$.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely bought the EeePC900A from BB, it definitely did not have XP on it, I definitely have only 1G.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m confused by your statement: &#8220;These rules are why you can’t buy a netbook with more that 1GB of RAM.&#8221; makes no sense: Microsoft is not affecting hardware makers who do NOT use XP.</p>
<p>The statement about not being able to buy a netbook with more than 1 GB cannot be based on M$.</p>
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		<title>By: Cupman</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-79254</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cupman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most netbook processors that are out today primarily atoms only address up to 2GB of RAM.  Yes the licensing that MS has provided limits the OEM&#039;s availability to install xp os sold have only 1GB of RAM but I don&#039;t see MS as the true obstacle.  If you think about it though the most RAM you can get with the Microsoft Windows XP OS provided is 4GB.  

These systems aren&#039;t meant to be power packed.  However new intel architecture will provide for much slimmer full function notebook pc&#039;s that can be as small as netbooks.  

Bottom line is you get what you pay for.  Cheap is cheap and less feature packed and not as powerful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most netbook processors that are out today primarily atoms only address up to 2GB of RAM.  Yes the licensing that MS has provided limits the OEM&#8217;s availability to install xp os sold have only 1GB of RAM but I don&#8217;t see MS as the true obstacle.  If you think about it though the most RAM you can get with the Microsoft Windows XP OS provided is 4GB.  </p>
<p>These systems aren&#8217;t meant to be power packed.  However new intel architecture will provide for much slimmer full function notebook pc&#8217;s that can be as small as netbooks.  </p>
<p>Bottom line is you get what you pay for.  Cheap is cheap and less feature packed and not as powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: glob30</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-76340</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glob30]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[microsoft hack http://multiboss.cn]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>microsoft hack <a href="http://multiboss.cn" rel="nofollow">http://multiboss.cn</a></p>
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		<title>By: SoundwaveHi</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-62886</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SoundwaveHi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wtf does it matter...most of us dont do shit besides write comments on hackaday, don&#039;t be a tool about how fast your computer is, or what operating system you have, just be happy your shit works...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wtf does it matter&#8230;most of us dont do shit besides write comments on hackaday, don&#8217;t be a tool about how fast your computer is, or what operating system you have, just be happy your shit works&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Renegade666</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-61052</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Renegade666]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To update I looked into the N270 Proc, and it&#039;s a single-core hyper-threading execution core which reads as two logical CPU&#039;s with shared resources, still not too shabby...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To update I looked into the N270 Proc, and it&#8217;s a single-core hyper-threading execution core which reads as two logical CPU&#8217;s with shared resources, still not too shabby&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Renegade666</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-61048</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Renegade666]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[K, just to interject a little on you folks slaggin&#039; the netbook....

I recently laid hands on an Acer Aspire One. This is a pretty decent machine from what I can tell. Now I&#039;ve been around computers all my life, I was writing basic on a Vic 20 when I was 6, so I&#039;m by no means uninformed when it comes to computers. 

The aspire one I now own comes with Winblows XP and 1gb ram. Here comes the technical bull:

N270 Atom Proc @ 1.6ghz
1gb ram
160gb HD
Intel internal video 8-256mb onboard 

now, yes 1 gb is a little lacking, and windows wouldn&#039;t be a first choice for a lot of people, but the netbook market was never really intended for the hardcore DIY techie who&#039;s fingers are permanently solder-burned and speaks in Linux. This is a small affordable PC for people who need a little less bulk and a little more mobility, it&#039;s a niche market and it works. If Microstunned decided they wanted to hinder their OS&#039;s performance for the tech-savvy among us, sucks to be them, but in the market these systems were designed for not many folks are honestly going to be popping the backs off to upgrade stuff, and frankly for it&#039;s intended purpose 1gb is more than adequate. I haven&#039;t seen this thing slow down all that much, and i run software on it that chokes my desktop (which coincedentally has a numerically faster cpu, and the same amount of ram which doesn&#039;t feed into video cards). Then there&#039;s the N270 Atom Processor. Everything I&#039;ve read says this is a single core proc, however the cpu usage monitor in the task mangler *yes the typo is intentional* splits into 2 sections as would a dual core system, getting into the device manager reveals drivers for an &quot;ACPI Multiprocessor PC&quot;, and checking system information in other software I find two logical CPU&#039;s listed. Hmm. Dual-core performance in a netbook? Short point of fact is yes, and it works. Although it may not *be* a true dual-core (i haven&#039;t had the time to go digging further, since my job and sleep preclude me from having a lot of free time to waste), it tasks just like one, and speedwise is pretty well on par or faster with my Single-core 2.8ghz desktop proc. 

Yes Windows sucks, but at least it&#039;s integrated well, the machine is more-or-less plug and play right out of the box(push power button, it does everything else till you enter your info in winblows setup)  

Overall, this thing is a pretty slammin&#039; value for the money. Yes these little toys might be a little on the limited side, but then again not everyone needs the starship enterprise computer in their faux-leather bag. My little toy was $500cdn taxes in with a 3 year warranty, I spent that much on a MB, ram, and proc for my desktop a few years ago, and that was without a warranty because i built the system myself. In spite of a few minor flaws, which are only apparent to those of us who think in binary and eat circuit boards like corn flakes, these things really are pretty impressive...  

Just my 2 cents....

The Renegade 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K, just to interject a little on you folks slaggin&#8217; the netbook&#8230;.</p>
<p>I recently laid hands on an Acer Aspire One. This is a pretty decent machine from what I can tell. Now I&#8217;ve been around computers all my life, I was writing basic on a Vic 20 when I was 6, so I&#8217;m by no means uninformed when it comes to computers. </p>
<p>The aspire one I now own comes with Winblows XP and 1gb ram. Here comes the technical bull:</p>
<p>N270 Atom Proc @ 1.6ghz<br />
1gb ram<br />
160gb HD<br />
Intel internal video 8-256mb onboard </p>
<p>now, yes 1 gb is a little lacking, and windows wouldn&#8217;t be a first choice for a lot of people, but the netbook market was never really intended for the hardcore DIY techie who&#8217;s fingers are permanently solder-burned and speaks in Linux. This is a small affordable PC for people who need a little less bulk and a little more mobility, it&#8217;s a niche market and it works. If Microstunned decided they wanted to hinder their OS&#8217;s performance for the tech-savvy among us, sucks to be them, but in the market these systems were designed for not many folks are honestly going to be popping the backs off to upgrade stuff, and frankly for it&#8217;s intended purpose 1gb is more than adequate. I haven&#8217;t seen this thing slow down all that much, and i run software on it that chokes my desktop (which coincedentally has a numerically faster cpu, and the same amount of ram which doesn&#8217;t feed into video cards). Then there&#8217;s the N270 Atom Processor. Everything I&#8217;ve read says this is a single core proc, however the cpu usage monitor in the task mangler *yes the typo is intentional* splits into 2 sections as would a dual core system, getting into the device manager reveals drivers for an &#8220;ACPI Multiprocessor PC&#8221;, and checking system information in other software I find two logical CPU&#8217;s listed. Hmm. Dual-core performance in a netbook? Short point of fact is yes, and it works. Although it may not *be* a true dual-core (i haven&#8217;t had the time to go digging further, since my job and sleep preclude me from having a lot of free time to waste), it tasks just like one, and speedwise is pretty well on par or faster with my Single-core 2.8ghz desktop proc. </p>
<p>Yes Windows sucks, but at least it&#8217;s integrated well, the machine is more-or-less plug and play right out of the box(push power button, it does everything else till you enter your info in winblows setup)  </p>
<p>Overall, this thing is a pretty slammin&#8217; value for the money. Yes these little toys might be a little on the limited side, but then again not everyone needs the starship enterprise computer in their faux-leather bag. My little toy was $500cdn taxes in with a 3 year warranty, I spent that much on a MB, ram, and proc for my desktop a few years ago, and that was without a warranty because i built the system myself. In spite of a few minor flaws, which are only apparent to those of us who think in binary and eat circuit boards like corn flakes, these things really are pretty impressive&#8230;  </p>
<p>Just my 2 cents&#8230;.</p>
<p>The Renegade<br />
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		<title>By: Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s like dell support telling me the mini 9 only can work 1G anything more will &quot;fry&quot; it... and it never even gave me a choice of operating system it was like xp and 1G your done...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s like dell support telling me the mini 9 only can work 1G anything more will &#8220;fry&#8221; it&#8230; and it never even gave me a choice of operating system it was like xp and 1G your done&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: zm</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2008/12/20/netbooks-slow-thanks-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-58453</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d prefer having a notebook lasting more than 1hr on battery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d prefer having a notebook lasting more than 1hr on battery.</p>
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