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	<title>Comments on: How-to: Prepare your Eagle designs for manufacture</title>
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		<title>By: CircuitPeople</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-455232</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CircuitPeople]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ryan -- I&#039;d go one step more.  Unless the design is for some reason secret I would take those gerbers and post them online for &quot;peer/social review&quot;.  Correctness is one concern, but often there are substantial cost savings to be had with small tweaks (e.g. small increases in trace &amp; space, widening long tracks, shrinking the layout, etc.).  Getting more sets of eyes on a design improves the chances of getting the board made best, for least cost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan &#8212; I&#8217;d go one step more.  Unless the design is for some reason secret I would take those gerbers and post them online for &#8220;peer/social review&#8221;.  Correctness is one concern, but often there are substantial cost savings to be had with small tweaks (e.g. small increases in trace &amp; space, widening long tracks, shrinking the layout, etc.).  Getting more sets of eyes on a design improves the chances of getting the board made best, for least cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-455193</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan O'Connor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Providing Gerber files is definitely the right way to get a PCB manufactured.  Be sure to use a Gerber viewer, which you can download for free, to verify your design before you send it.  Most fab houses will run a number of checks to be sure there are not any issues with the design.  If you simply send a board file, the fab house MAY be able to produce Gerbers, but then you will not have the opportunity to verify your design.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Providing Gerber files is definitely the right way to get a PCB manufactured.  Be sure to use a Gerber viewer, which you can download for free, to verify your design before you send it.  Most fab houses will run a number of checks to be sure there are not any issues with the design.  If you simply send a board file, the fab house MAY be able to produce Gerbers, but then you will not have the opportunity to verify your design.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-314140</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Project archive can be found here: http://www.whereisian.com/files/dpf.v1.zip]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Project archive can be found here: <a href="http://www.whereisian.com/files/dpf.v1.zip" rel="nofollow">http://www.whereisian.com/files/dpf.v1.zip</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used the CAM processor from SparkFun but got this: 
BatchPCB is locking down. We are no longer accepting any floating files. Please clean up your uploaded file and resubmit.
We are only accepting the following list of file extensions:

    * TopCopper - &quot;.gtl&quot; , &quot;.cmp&quot;, &quot;.top&quot;
    * BottomCopper - &quot;.gbl&quot;, &quot;.sol&quot;, &quot;.bot&quot;
    * TopSolderMask - &quot;.gts&quot;, &quot;.stc&quot;, &quot;.smt&quot;, &quot;.stoptop&quot;, &quot;.tsm&quot;
    * BottomSolderMask - &quot;.gbs&quot;, &quot;.sts&quot;, &quot;.smb&quot;, &quot;.stopbot&quot;, &quot;.bsm&quot;
    * TopSilk - &quot;.gto&quot;, &quot;.plc&quot;, &quot;.sst&quot;, &quot;.positop&quot;, &quot;.leg&quot;, &quot;.slk&quot;
    * BottomSilk - &quot;.gbo&quot;, &quot;.pls&quot;, &quot;.ssb&quot;, &quot;.posibot&quot;, &quot;.bsk&quot;
    * Drill - &quot;.drl&quot;, &quot;.txt&quot;, &quot;.tap&quot;, &quot;.drill&quot;, &quot;.gdd&quot;, &quot;.drd&quot;, &quot;.cnc&quot;, &quot;.exl&quot;
    * KeepOut - &quot;.gko&quot;
    * MiddleCopper1 - &quot;.g2&quot;
    * MiddleCopper2 - &quot;.g3&quot;
    * BottomStencil - &quot;.gbp&quot;
    * TopStencil - &quot;.gtp&quot;
    * Outline - &quot;.outline&quot;, &quot;.oln&quot;

BatchPCB Support



Anybody ever get this??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used the CAM processor from SparkFun but got this:<br />
BatchPCB is locking down. We are no longer accepting any floating files. Please clean up your uploaded file and resubmit.<br />
We are only accepting the following list of file extensions:</p>
<p>    * TopCopper &#8211; &#8220;.gtl&#8221; , &#8220;.cmp&#8221;, &#8220;.top&#8221;<br />
    * BottomCopper &#8211; &#8220;.gbl&#8221;, &#8220;.sol&#8221;, &#8220;.bot&#8221;<br />
    * TopSolderMask &#8211; &#8220;.gts&#8221;, &#8220;.stc&#8221;, &#8220;.smt&#8221;, &#8220;.stoptop&#8221;, &#8220;.tsm&#8221;<br />
    * BottomSolderMask &#8211; &#8220;.gbs&#8221;, &#8220;.sts&#8221;, &#8220;.smb&#8221;, &#8220;.stopbot&#8221;, &#8220;.bsm&#8221;<br />
    * TopSilk &#8211; &#8220;.gto&#8221;, &#8220;.plc&#8221;, &#8220;.sst&#8221;, &#8220;.positop&#8221;, &#8220;.leg&#8221;, &#8220;.slk&#8221;<br />
    * BottomSilk &#8211; &#8220;.gbo&#8221;, &#8220;.pls&#8221;, &#8220;.ssb&#8221;, &#8220;.posibot&#8221;, &#8220;.bsk&#8221;<br />
    * Drill &#8211; &#8220;.drl&#8221;, &#8220;.txt&#8221;, &#8220;.tap&#8221;, &#8220;.drill&#8221;, &#8220;.gdd&#8221;, &#8220;.drd&#8221;, &#8220;.cnc&#8221;, &#8220;.exl&#8221;<br />
    * KeepOut &#8211; &#8220;.gko&#8221;<br />
    * MiddleCopper1 &#8211; &#8220;.g2&#8243;<br />
    * MiddleCopper2 &#8211; &#8220;.g3&#8243;<br />
    * BottomStencil &#8211; &#8220;.gbp&#8221;<br />
    * TopStencil &#8211; &#8220;.gtp&#8221;<br />
    * Outline &#8211; &#8220;.outline&#8221;, &#8220;.oln&#8221;</p>
<p>BatchPCB Support</p>
<p>Anybody ever get this??</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-156217</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anybody know how to run the CAM processor so that the gerbers are output to a separate folder? It&#039;s really annoying to have them mixed with the schematic and board files.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody know how to run the CAM processor so that the gerbers are output to a separate folder? It&#8217;s really annoying to have them mixed with the schematic and board files.</p>
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		<title>By: mechtron</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-126329</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mechtron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the tutorial.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tutorial.</p>
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		<title>By: spiffed</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-125465</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spiffed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The default for trace-widths (and spacing) is set by (the greater) of the class dialog or the DRC. To set a particular group of nets (eg VCC &amp; GND) to a different min trace size, assign them to a different class then use the class dialog to set a greater trace size.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The default for trace-widths (and spacing) is set by (the greater) of the class dialog or the DRC. To set a particular group of nets (eg VCC &amp; GND) to a different min trace size, assign them to a different class then use the class dialog to set a greater trace size.</p>
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		<title>By: Squirrel</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-125422</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Squirrel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@medix, whenever you do power, it is recommended to use planes.  A tool that is really useful in eagle is the configure tool (looks like a wrench).  You click on that then click on the property you wish to assign, then whenever you click on a part/trace, it will assign that property.  I believe it also sets the default for trace width if you go that route.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@medix, whenever you do power, it is recommended to use planes.  A tool that is really useful in eagle is the configure tool (looks like a wrench).  You click on that then click on the property you wish to assign, then whenever you click on a part/trace, it will assign that property.  I believe it also sets the default for trace width if you go that route.</p>
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		<title>By: Squirrel</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-125414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Squirrel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol i love the drc (aka the caffienometer) cuz it shows you how awake you were when routing xD

but yeah, bigger traces are better cuz they offer less resistance]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol i love the drc (aka the caffienometer) cuz it shows you how awake you were when routing xD</p>
<p>but yeah, bigger traces are better cuz they offer less resistance</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal G. Peterson</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-121049</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crystal G. Peterson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Non-existent customer service at Natwest and complete lack of any attempt at complaint resolution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non-existent customer service at Natwest and complete lack of any attempt at complaint resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Ehn</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-118828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackie Ehn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wanted to get some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatees.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;custom t shirts&lt;/a&gt; prInted,and wanted to know If you or any body used usatees I heard they were good screen prInters. can I get some opnIons?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to get some <a href="http://www.usatees.com/" rel="nofollow">custom t shirts</a> prInted,and wanted to know If you or any body used usatees I heard they were good screen prInters. can I get some opnIons?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-86744</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for a great guide and a very useful CAM script. Also thanks for the pointer to freeplot, much better than GC Prevue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great guide and a very useful CAM script. Also thanks for the pointer to freeplot, much better than GC Prevue.</p>
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		<title>By: error404</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-59935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[error404]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jproach:

As far as I understand there is a fairly high fixed tooling cost associated with producing any PCB. Actually running off boards is very cheap, but creating the tools (masks for the various layers) is relatively expensive. I think the reason this isn&#039;t a big issue for BatchPCB etc. is because at a local fab house they will create a small set of masks specifically for your board while BatchPCB will make one big one with many designs, spreading the cost.

That&#039;s the tradeoff if you want decent turn times. Some fab houses will keep your tooling around and give you a cheaper rate if you want more copies of a previously produced design as well, which is a nice bonus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jproach:</p>
<p>As far as I understand there is a fairly high fixed tooling cost associated with producing any PCB. Actually running off boards is very cheap, but creating the tools (masks for the various layers) is relatively expensive. I think the reason this isn&#8217;t a big issue for BatchPCB etc. is because at a local fab house they will create a small set of masks specifically for your board while BatchPCB will make one big one with many designs, spreading the cost.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the tradeoff if you want decent turn times. Some fab houses will keep your tooling around and give you a cheaper rate if you want more copies of a previously produced design as well, which is a nice bonus.</p>
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		<title>By: CP</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ian

Ya got an acid trap at about 1.605 X, 0.722 Y but it wasn&#039;t going to hurt anything even if if did etch through.  Anyone using the gerbers might want to fix it, just to make the fab happy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ian</p>
<p>Ya got an acid trap at about 1.605 X, 0.722 Y but it wasn&#8217;t going to hurt anything even if if did etch through.  Anyone using the gerbers might want to fix it, just to make the fab happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Lesnet</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/01/15/how-to-prepare-your-eagle-designs-for-manufacture/comment-page-1/#comment-59632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Lesnet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.mahalo.com/hackaday/howto/frameGerbers.zip&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here are the gerbers&lt;/a&gt; we submitted for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://hackaday.com/2009/01/08/how-to-digital-picture-frame-100-diy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;digital picture frame&lt;/a&gt;. This PCB cost $7.50 at BatchPCB.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.mahalo.com/hackaday/howto/frameGerbers.zip" rel="nofollow">Here are the gerbers</a> we submitted for the <a href="http://hackaday.com/2009/01/08/how-to-digital-picture-frame-100-diy/" rel="nofollow">digital picture frame</a>. This PCB cost $7.50 at BatchPCB.</p>
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