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		<title>By: yup</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/02/12/pdf-redaction-still-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-62875</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cap filter is in the CSS, not in the software.   If it really annoys you (it annoys the hell out of me), you can edit the style sheet and remove the 

text-transform: lowercase;  

line from it, then apply it as a custom sheet to this site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cap filter is in the CSS, not in the software.   If it really annoys you (it annoys the hell out of me), you can edit the style sheet and remove the </p>
<p>text-transform: lowercase;  </p>
<p>line from it, then apply it as a custom sheet to this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/02/12/pdf-redaction-still-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-62874</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m fine with auto-deleting all the &quot;First!&quot; crap posts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fine with auto-deleting all the &#8220;First!&#8221; crap posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Orv</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/02/12/pdf-redaction-still-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-62873</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IMHO the only reliable form of redaction is to print out the document, black out the redacted bits with a fat Sharpie, then scan the document back in.  Labor-intensive, yes, but reliable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO the only reliable form of redaction is to print out the document, black out the redacted bits with a fat Sharpie, then scan the document back in.  Labor-intensive, yes, but reliable.</p>
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		<title>By: twizzzzz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twizzzzz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[all lowercase = win. its how i write all of my emails now, because of hackaday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all lowercase = win. its how i write all of my emails now, because of hackaday.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@dave

The whole no-caps thing is probably an attempt to make this feed a little more unique. As for shouting, it&#039;s usually annoying when people do that in speech as well, but that doesn&#039;t mean we should make it so they&#039;re unable to. Besides, not allowing caps would be overkill for such a minor annoyance. While we&#039;re at at it, we could start automatically deleting the first post on every story to reduce trolling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dave</p>
<p>The whole no-caps thing is probably an attempt to make this feed a little more unique. As for shouting, it&#8217;s usually annoying when people do that in speech as well, but that doesn&#8217;t mean we should make it so they&#8217;re unable to. Besides, not allowing caps would be overkill for such a minor annoyance. While we&#8217;re at at it, we could start automatically deleting the first post on every story to reduce trolling.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/02/12/pdf-redaction-still-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-62863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[they have the lowercase to prevent the morons that use the caps lock key. caps lock = annoyance. grammar freak = annoyance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they have the lowercase to prevent the morons that use the caps lock key. caps lock = annoyance. grammar freak = annoyance.</p>
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		<title>By: Noel</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/02/12/pdf-redaction-still-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-62860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahhh...so it&#039;s not the writers...it&#039;s the software.
how damn annoying. My apologies to you all. May I re-direct my annoyance to the webmaster.

Stop re-formatting my text.....or I&#039;ll claim, i don&#039;t know, copyright infringement or something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh&#8230;so it&#8217;s not the writers&#8230;it&#8217;s the software.<br />
how damn annoying. My apologies to you all. May I re-direct my annoyance to the webmaster.</p>
<p>Stop re-formatting my text&#8230;..or I&#8217;ll claim, i don&#8217;t know, copyright infringement or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Noel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really like visiting this site and reading the comments, but &quot;MOST&quot; of you make it more difficult each time. When did it become useful to start sentences without capitalization? It just means that I have to read, and then read again before the correct intent of the writer is interpreted.
Come on....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like visiting this site and reading the comments, but &#8220;MOST&#8221; of you make it more difficult each time. When did it become useful to start sentences without capitalization? It just means that I have to read, and then read again before the correct intent of the writer is interpreted.<br />
Come on&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: strider_mt2k</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[strider_mt2k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wordplay is hacking too. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wordplay is hacking too. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: strider_mt2k</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[strider_mt2k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[redaction reduction reduces obstruction
and who cannot use some obstruction reduction?

I&#039;m known to be known for my fair predilection
and AE-three five series failure prediction

but documentation frustration deflation
detection requires some instrumentation

and courtroom proceedings are when I say when
and my silly head goes off to rhyming again

so please excuse me again when I say
I really could use more than one hack a day]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>redaction reduction reduces obstruction<br />
and who cannot use some obstruction reduction?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m known to be known for my fair predilection<br />
and AE-three five series failure prediction</p>
<p>but documentation frustration deflation<br />
detection requires some instrumentation</p>
<p>and courtroom proceedings are when I say when<br />
and my silly head goes off to rhyming again</p>
<p>so please excuse me again when I say<br />
I really could use more than one hack a day</p>
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		<title>By: Saites</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/02/12/pdf-redaction-still-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-62855</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saites]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@james: the redact feature wasn&#039;t fixed until 9.0.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@james: the redact feature wasn&#8217;t fixed until 9.0.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/02/12/pdf-redaction-still-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-62853</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s odd -- AFAIK the full version of Acrobat has had a *real* &quot;redact&quot; command since about 8.0 (and they&#039;re now up to 9.0).  My guess would be they just produced it with an old version of the tool (or using a non-Adobe distiller).  Lazy/cheap users != bad product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s odd &#8212; AFAIK the full version of Acrobat has had a *real* &#8220;redact&#8221; command since about 8.0 (and they&#8217;re now up to 9.0).  My guess would be they just produced it with an old version of the tool (or using a non-Adobe distiller).  Lazy/cheap users != bad product.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmx2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimmx2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: doomstalk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[doomstalk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@dubmuffin: As someone who works with this stuff on a regular basis, it&#039;s pretty clear to me that you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about.

1) No, we can&#039;t &quot;avoid the official use of the word redaction&quot;. This isn&#039;t a choice on the part of Facebook, it&#039;s a standard part of legal proceedings.
2) Facebook is legally required to not change the contents and/or formatting the document, with the exception of blanking out privileged or confidential material. You can&#039;t just delete text-- that alters the original document.
3) PDF redaction is a solved problem. Whatever tool they&#039;re using just sucks. When done properly, it&#039;s possible to scrub the original text from under a document. Or, barring that, you can produce in image only PDF, at which point there&#039;s no question that the text has been removed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dubmuffin: As someone who works with this stuff on a regular basis, it&#8217;s pretty clear to me that you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>1) No, we can&#8217;t &#8220;avoid the official use of the word redaction&#8221;. This isn&#8217;t a choice on the part of Facebook, it&#8217;s a standard part of legal proceedings.<br />
2) Facebook is legally required to not change the contents and/or formatting the document, with the exception of blanking out privileged or confidential material. You can&#8217;t just delete text&#8211; that alters the original document.<br />
3) PDF redaction is a solved problem. Whatever tool they&#8217;re using just sucks. When done properly, it&#8217;s possible to scrub the original text from under a document. Or, barring that, you can produce in image only PDF, at which point there&#8217;s no question that the text has been removed.</p>
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		<title>By: Morden</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/02/12/pdf-redaction-still-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-62843</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So facebook turned down an offer by microsoft that was 4x their actual value? Does microsoft really have that bad of a stigma or were they attempting to driver investor interest by playing along?

Regardless, leave copy/paste on a redaction feature is one hell of a large (hilarious) oversight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So facebook turned down an offer by microsoft that was 4x their actual value? Does microsoft really have that bad of a stigma or were they attempting to driver investor interest by playing along?</p>
<p>Regardless, leave copy/paste on a redaction feature is one hell of a large (hilarious) oversight.</p>
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