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		<title>By: whyme</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/09/24-solid-state-drives-in-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-92853</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whyme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Weebl MUST HAVE done the sound track!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weebl MUST HAVE done the sound track!</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisB</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/09/24-solid-state-drives-in-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-82672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChrisB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone is complaining about the defrag. Who cares? I like how is opened all those windows in such a fast time, and yea you can get that same speed with one ssd but i think the point of the huge
raid setup was show you how raid is a great idea if you want space and speed. i can tell you one thins i would like to get all those ssd&#039;s then resell them so i can buy my self a Gamer pc that fucking rocks!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is complaining about the defrag. Who cares? I like how is opened all those windows in such a fast time, and yea you can get that same speed with one ssd but i think the point of the huge<br />
raid setup was show you how raid is a great idea if you want space and speed. i can tell you one thins i would like to get all those ssd&#8217;s then resell them so i can buy my self a Gamer pc that fucking rocks!!!</p>
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		<title>By: kc3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kc3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, a couple of things here, very impressive but first, why on earth defrag an SSD? Not only does it decrease the life of the disk but also SSDs don&#039;t get fragmented since they don&#039;t have disk plates, and being as each drive is doing the exact same thing to each drive as a single drive would be I don&#039;t see how defrageg 24 SSDs in a raid would be faster than defragging 1 SSD. Also for Crysis, graphics would have very little affect from the hard drive, only thing that the hard drives would realy affect is the load time.

If I did this project though I totaly would have got like an external RAID that could hold 24 drives :P And idk if I&#039;d waste the money to get 6TB lol, I&#039;d imagine the smaller ones would be just as fast when it comes to solid state memory and the cheapest 250GB SSD I&#039;ve found was like $700 so for 6TB from 24x 250GB SSDs would cost almost $17,000 lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, a couple of things here, very impressive but first, why on earth defrag an SSD? Not only does it decrease the life of the disk but also SSDs don&#8217;t get fragmented since they don&#8217;t have disk plates, and being as each drive is doing the exact same thing to each drive as a single drive would be I don&#8217;t see how defrageg 24 SSDs in a raid would be faster than defragging 1 SSD. Also for Crysis, graphics would have very little affect from the hard drive, only thing that the hard drives would realy affect is the load time.</p>
<p>If I did this project though I totaly would have got like an external RAID that could hold 24 drives :P And idk if I&#8217;d waste the money to get 6TB lol, I&#8217;d imagine the smaller ones would be just as fast when it comes to solid state memory and the cheapest 250GB SSD I&#8217;ve found was like $700 so for 6TB from 24x 250GB SSDs would cost almost $17,000 lol</p>
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		<title>By: tbe</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/09/24-solid-state-drives-in-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-71949</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tbe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LoL,

1st: I&#039;ve never seen a Professional HDD-Benchmark with Windows and NTFS!

2nd: I agree with defrag and Crysis

Nice commercial SAMSUNG. But a huge fake ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoL,</p>
<p>1st: I&#8217;ve never seen a Professional HDD-Benchmark with Windows and NTFS!</p>
<p>2nd: I agree with defrag and Crysis</p>
<p>Nice commercial SAMSUNG. But a huge fake &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: carsloth</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/09/24-solid-state-drives-in-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-69646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carsloth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God what a miserable bunch. I think most of the people who have made comments here need a fucking sense of humour.

NO FUCKING SWEARING GOD DAMN IT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God what a miserable bunch. I think most of the people who have made comments here need a fucking sense of humour.</p>
<p>NO FUCKING SWEARING GOD DAMN IT!</p>
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		<title>By: carsloth</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/09/24-solid-state-drives-in-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-69617</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carsloth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so for 12 000 bucks vista might run good?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so for 12 000 bucks vista might run good?</p>
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		<title>By: mr00000</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/09/24-solid-state-drives-in-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-68666</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mr00000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wish they showed how long it took to boot Vista.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wish they showed how long it took to boot Vista.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t see why they showed Crysis at high res... They should have, like everyone else said, just showed the loading times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t see why they showed Crysis at high res&#8230; They should have, like everyone else said, just showed the loading times.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[100 Gbit?  Good luck.  The parts are out there, but if you can afford them, you can probably afford 24 SSDs to play with, too.

What I took from this was a lesson in reliability:  Assuming they had them in RAID 0 rather than JBOD, take whatever your reliability figure for one SSD over its life is, raise it to the 24th power, and it starts to look pretty shaky.  It is a great flash in the pan, but not much real content there.

Show me four of them in RAID 0, tucked into a 5.25&quot; slot, running off the motherboard SATA controller rather than a bucks-up RAID card.  That would be more relevant to my interests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100 Gbit?  Good luck.  The parts are out there, but if you can afford them, you can probably afford 24 SSDs to play with, too.</p>
<p>What I took from this was a lesson in reliability:  Assuming they had them in RAID 0 rather than JBOD, take whatever your reliability figure for one SSD over its life is, raise it to the 24th power, and it starts to look pretty shaky.  It is a great flash in the pan, but not much real content there.</p>
<p>Show me four of them in RAID 0, tucked into a 5.25&#8243; slot, running off the motherboard SATA controller rather than a bucks-up RAID card.  That would be more relevant to my interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Djedi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Djedi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a good example of how far we need to go in order to get close to ram speeds with ssds.  Now they just need to combine those 24 drives into one (raid wise) and make a port able to handle up to lets say 100 gbits/sec (~12.5 gigabytes/sec).  Less mess, one drive, one cable, same or better performance.  Eventually these things will match ram speeds or may even surpass them eliminating the need for ram.  If that were the case, any OS would virtually be pre-loaded.  Instant bootup times.  Weeeeeeee!

Expensive setup, but impressive none the less.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good example of how far we need to go in order to get close to ram speeds with ssds.  Now they just need to combine those 24 drives into one (raid wise) and make a port able to handle up to lets say 100 gbits/sec (~12.5 gigabytes/sec).  Less mess, one drive, one cable, same or better performance.  Eventually these things will match ram speeds or may even surpass them eliminating the need for ram.  If that were the case, any OS would virtually be pre-loaded.  Instant bootup times.  Weeeeeeee!</p>
<p>Expensive setup, but impressive none the less.</p>
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		<title>By: Xb0xGuru</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xb0xGuru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I hope we are not talking 2 gbit/s because I spent far far less on 750 gig SATAs with a 9650SE-ML16 3ware card and get 480MB/s writes. Yes, almost 2x the speed for my guess, over 10x less.&quot;

Nathan - he clearly states &quot;Two Thousand Megabytes per second&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I hope we are not talking 2 gbit/s because I spent far far less on 750 gig SATAs with a 9650SE-ML16 3ware card and get 480MB/s writes. Yes, almost 2x the speed for my guess, over 10x less.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nathan &#8211; he clearly states &#8220;Two Thousand Megabytes per second&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GO PAUL!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GO PAUL!!</p>
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		<title>By: Herbo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Herbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone that keeps writing that defragging the SSD is pointless obviously knows nothing about the SD instruction set. It WILL make a difference. Synchronous read is in the SSD instruction set and therefore with an increased stripe size, reduced addressing instructions are used to provide a synchronous read and transfer speed is further increased. This is a fundamental instruction on any serial access memory.
Sorry to be a kill joy here, but you are wrong..
Paul.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone that keeps writing that defragging the SSD is pointless obviously knows nothing about the SD instruction set. It WILL make a difference. Synchronous read is in the SSD instruction set and therefore with an increased stripe size, reduced addressing instructions are used to provide a synchronous read and transfer speed is further increased. This is a fundamental instruction on any serial access memory.<br />
Sorry to be a kill joy here, but you are wrong..<br />
Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: Thsyrus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thsyrus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God what a miserable bunch. I think most of the people who have made comments here need a fucking sense of humour.


Fuck Me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God what a miserable bunch. I think most of the people who have made comments here need a fucking sense of humour.</p>
<p>Fuck Me</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Harwell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew Harwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 2 GB/ s is impressive, but a couple of the tests were bogus.  Crysis was the one that threw me off, they should&#039;ve just showed the loading time for it.

Still, pretty sweet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2 GB/ s is impressive, but a couple of the tests were bogus.  Crysis was the one that threw me off, they should&#8217;ve just showed the loading time for it.</p>
<p>Still, pretty sweet.</p>
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