Comments on: Hackit: Xbox 360 hardware failures on the rise?

By: Rob

Rob — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:14:28 +0000

This is all great…. NOT.. How do you fix it?

By: VendettA

VendettA — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:38:38 +0000

i liked the 1st xbox so naturally i bought the 360. i love the controller and xbl but my ps3 has lasted thru 3 360′s. And psn is free and soon gonna offer a premium service. my advice is buy a ps3 and wait on the next xbox. bc the 360 hardware is garbage. awesome games. but what good is games when the system is getting sent off to get repaired? ms rushed the 360 out to get a yr head start on sony and us gamers r paying for it by putting up with the hardware failures. the ps3 has alot of games out now and a ton of features the 360 doesn’t… im on my ps3 posting this

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By: Dean

Dean — Mon, 18 May 2009 12:23:24 +0000

Greg,
Hitting it with the “Fonzi slap” and it worked just fine after that, demonstrates there is a dry solder join there for sure.

Dry joints are caused by bad workmanship and overheating, they are quite common in the old CRT based monitors and TV’s and I mean old, most times I see this on TV’s is when they are many years old.

It’s extremely poor quality control and shoddy cheap labor that cause these issues so early in an appliances life.

By: allan

allan — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 04:02:12 +0000

i need some advice i bought 2 xboxes (original) for 15 dollars on the side of the road lol one i did a voltage adjustment and got it working the second one on the other hand is a launch release xbox >< which means no error code and it blinks red after bios loads so i removed the HDD and put
it in the working xbox and i got an error 7 so i think the HDD is timed out my problem is how do i clone it? can i softmod the working one and hot swap? or clone the working HDD from the working xbox and use it on the older system some how? i know there is an issue with the eeproms containing the HDD key for a specific HDD for that specific mobo so i was wondering if there is a way by softmodding it ive noticed that you can back up your HDD for the softmodded xbox but ive never seen anything about backing up a HDD to fix another it sux that all that is preventing me from loading it up is a HDD issue any comments and help would be highly appreciated and sorry this isnt a xbox 360 issue lol

By: logicslayer

logicslayer — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:58:21 +0000

I now have a 2009 box so hopefully that will last me awhile. I see that Microsoft now includes the E74 error in the 3 year warranty. Looks like I wasn’t too far off from my theory.

By: allan

allan — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:41:52 +0000

the 360 that i got had the rrod i recived it in pieces from a friend i put it back together with the x-clapm fix and no dice ive tried different compound applications different torqing of the bolts overheating numerous times then i found out later on that my friend got the rrod every now and then so he would put a fan on it and it would go away for a couple of days then more frequently
it would appear until thats all he saw so….to people who stumble upon this forum for help the odds of fixing the ones that are second hand cant always be fixed you never know the history of the system how many times it overheated etc……i believe the x-clamp fix works i just had no luck with it on that system (lol plus it was a 2005 model ive heard they are the worst)

By: kyle007

kyle007 — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:51:55 +0000

they need a socket for the cpu and a fan on top of the heat sinks for craps sake they cheaped out… I bought a few 360′s RROD and fixed them gave one to my bro and sold the other to a coworker.. they still work, even today.. I dont think the x clamps are the big problem, they pull at the outer ends and in the center there is a type of fulcrum that pushes back on the center point of the x clap so it kinda fits snug but not tight as all hell like the RROD fix using .05 mm bolts er what ever the mm they are… almost every problem the 360 has is reversible… of course they shouldn’t have deployed an expensive product to kids who saved up for it to let them down from cheap manufacturing, I wouldn’t mind if the 360 was larger to accommodate for the right hardware..

By: allan

allan — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:52:31 +0000

hmmm i was wondering if ms has infact tried alot of the ideas that people come up with (interet)(forums)etc…….and possibly some of them dont work if not some maybe most maybe even before we have tried them perhaps?im sure they have but it all goes into GREED!!!!!!!!!! and not cost-effective for them so we get sorry ass X-clamps that bend and warp that cause the problem

By: logicslayer

logicslayer — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:10:37 +0000

I had 2 360s rrod and my 3rd one, just this last weekend started the no video problem. My roommate has been through a rrod and an e74. I’d say the e74 is the new rrod. You don’t think Microsoft would change the way a failure is shown to lower the amount of boxes they would have to replace/repair? That’s a lot of faith in Microsoft. We need to focus on the the product quality!

By: nitori

nitori — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:12:11 +0000

I suspect it’s a combination of the crappy RoHS solder,cheap PCBs and poor cooling causing e74.

RoHS was invented by a bunch of politicians who obviously have zero experience in electronics manufacture and materials engineering.

The main issues with RoHS solders is they are often plagued by tin whisker esp the cheaper solders and the reflow temps are higher stressing components more.

The RoHS solders actually cause much greater environmental damage in their manufacture then the lead based solders do so they don’t save the environment.

BGAs themselves are not unreliable if the chip carrier and solder match the expansion coefficients of the board.

I have a few ten year old macs that have BGA components that still work just fine.

An alternative they could have used if they wanted to use a cheap PCBs would have been the PPGA and PQFP carriers since these can flex.

Or they could have simply spent money on cooling fans and heat sinks like Sony.

By: nxb

nxb — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:39:22 +0000

I fix a lot of 360s. Recently, I got a E74 on a non HDMI (no scalar bga) xbox. Reflowing the GPU brought it back. How can this be?

Microsoft must have changed something since previously no HDMI-less 360s got the E74.

By: coldwar23

coldwar23 — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:47:40 +0000

I had an E71 code last night. After a quick heart attack I tried cycling the PSU and then removed the hdd and booted it and played a game then backed out to dashboard then shut it off reattached hdd and fired her up. Everything worked fine and I could play COD but when I backed out to dashboard it gave me a save error message. It seems like the game was updating something in the background at dashboard. Probably a map patch for glitchers. Still, it usually asks you first. I guess I’ll delete my COD files and re-DL em. As a side note, I have read that setting the box to boot directly to game (instead of dashboard) helps a great deal with the E71 and E74 codes. I boot to dashboard because the wife likes her Netflix, but ya might wanna give it a try.

By: tecNik

tecNik — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:49:47 +0000

Awesome hack… Oh wait.. nvm. *sigh*