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	<title>Comments on: Through-hole Bus Pirate kit from Fundamental Logic</title>
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		<title>By: sjw</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-110393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sjw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris at fundamental logic sent me an e-mail along with his Phone Number;  Looks like the company hosting Fundamental Logic&#039;s e-mail has some issues and my e-mails did not get through... But Chris is taking care of my order for me.

Chris, thanks for your help and getting this resolved!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris at fundamental logic sent me an e-mail along with his Phone Number;  Looks like the company hosting Fundamental Logic&#8217;s e-mail has some issues and my e-mails did not get through&#8230; But Chris is taking care of my order for me.</p>
<p>Chris, thanks for your help and getting this resolved!</p>
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		<title>By: sjw</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-110302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sjw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris

I sent you an e-mail on Nov 30th (at the provided address above) and did not receive a reply.  I sent a follow-up e-mail on Dec 2nd in the event my first e-mail got lost.

You seem willing to help resolve this... But how on earth do I contact you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris</p>
<p>I sent you an e-mail on Nov 30th (at the provided address above) and did not receive a reply.  I sent a follow-up e-mail on Dec 2nd in the event my first e-mail got lost.</p>
<p>You seem willing to help resolve this&#8230; But how on earth do I contact you?</p>
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		<title>By: chris williams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chris williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@sjw

My name is Chris Williams and I run customer service at Fundamental Logic. If there&#039;s been a problem, or a series of problems with your order, please don&#039;t hesitate to me off an email (cwilliams@flogic.ca) and I can make sure whatever the issue, it&#039;s resolved, be it refunding, replacing, or expediting via FedEx or UPS.

Thank you and that goes for anyone else who&#039;s had an issue as well. We&#039;re a small company and we trade on our reputation. We&#039;d like to make right any and all issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sjw</p>
<p>My name is Chris Williams and I run customer service at Fundamental Logic. If there&#8217;s been a problem, or a series of problems with your order, please don&#8217;t hesitate to me off an email (cwilliams@flogic.ca) and I can make sure whatever the issue, it&#8217;s resolved, be it refunding, replacing, or expediting via FedEx or UPS.</p>
<p>Thank you and that goes for anyone else who&#8217;s had an issue as well. We&#8217;re a small company and we trade on our reputation. We&#8217;d like to make right any and all issues.</p>
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		<title>By: sjw</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-109355</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sjw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone else had issues with just horrible customer service from Fundamental Logic?  I placed an order for a MaxSerial Freeduino board over a month ago (on Oct 28) and it has not shipped yet.  I have sent three e-mails asking when the item would be shipped but with no response to date.  I called a number of times and was finally able to get someone on the phone two weeks ago -- they told me the part was in stock and would should in a few days... Two weeks later, I am still waiting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone else had issues with just horrible customer service from Fundamental Logic?  I placed an order for a MaxSerial Freeduino board over a month ago (on Oct 28) and it has not shipped yet.  I have sent three e-mails asking when the item would be shipped but with no response to date.  I called a number of times and was finally able to get someone on the phone two weeks ago &#8212; they told me the part was in stock and would should in a few days&#8230; Two weeks later, I am still waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-106794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@mt - I think so, and they seem to have run out months ago. I think everyone is using surface mount Bus Pirates now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mt &#8211; I think so, and they seem to have run out months ago. I think everyone is using surface mount Bus Pirates now.</p>
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		<title>By: mt</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-106733</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is fundamental logic the only website to buy the bus pirate PTH?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is fundamental logic the only website to buy the bus pirate PTH?</p>
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		<title>By: spiffed</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-68903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spiffed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The PICkit serial analyzer and the Bus Pirate have alot of overlap, but:
 * The PICkit has proprietary windows software while the Bus Pirate is an open serial interface.
 * The bus pirate supports 1-wire; jtag; and pc-keyboard, while the PICKit supports I2C slave and LIN.
 * The bus pirate has external AUX and analog-to-digital lines
 * The bus pirate is RS232 serial (or soon USB emulated serial) while the PICkit is a USB HID device.
 * The PICkit contains a single selectable voltage supply between ~2v and 5v, the Bus Pirate includes dual (software switched) 3.3v and 5v supplies.

Really, both are great bits of hardware and software. Having both devices on hand, I obviously side with the Bus Pirate, but mostly it&#039;s down to personal preference. I&#039;m also a huge fan of the serial terminal over the clunky feeling windows GUI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PICkit serial analyzer and the Bus Pirate have alot of overlap, but:<br />
 * The PICkit has proprietary windows software while the Bus Pirate is an open serial interface.<br />
 * The bus pirate supports 1-wire; jtag; and pc-keyboard, while the PICKit supports I2C slave and LIN.<br />
 * The bus pirate has external AUX and analog-to-digital lines<br />
 * The bus pirate is RS232 serial (or soon USB emulated serial) while the PICkit is a USB HID device.<br />
 * The PICkit contains a single selectable voltage supply between ~2v and 5v, the Bus Pirate includes dual (software switched) 3.3v and 5v supplies.</p>
<p>Really, both are great bits of hardware and software. Having both devices on hand, I obviously side with the Bus Pirate, but mostly it&#8217;s down to personal preference. I&#8217;m also a huge fan of the serial terminal over the clunky feeling windows GUI.</p>
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		<title>By: therian</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-68874</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[therian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by the way how Bus Pirate kit  different from PICkit Serial Analyze ? http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&amp;nodeId=1406&amp;dDocName=en028600]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way how Bus Pirate kit  different from PICkit Serial Analyze ? <a href="http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&#038;nodeId=1406&#038;dDocName=en028600" rel="nofollow">http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&#038;nodeId=1406&#038;dDocName=en028600</a></p>
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		<title>By: therian</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-68872</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[therian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt;&quot;get off your butts and buy a set of hot tweesers and a real soldering station and SMT becomes easier than TH.&quot;

hot tweesers + soldering station + oven + heat pad + fan + microscope +.....  = 1000$ = no weed this month again :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&#8221;get off your butts and buy a set of hot tweesers and a real soldering station and SMT becomes easier than TH.&#8221;</p>
<p>hot tweesers + soldering station + oven + heat pad + fan + microscope +&#8230;..  = 1000$ = no weed this month again :(</p>
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		<title>By: Hackius</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-68844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hackius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are we going to start the SMD vs DIP discussion again?

Some of us prefer DIP
Some prefere SMD

shut up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we going to start the SMD vs DIP discussion again?</p>
<p>Some of us prefer DIP<br />
Some prefere SMD</p>
<p>shut up</p>
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		<title>By: fartface</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-68826</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fartface]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can solder smt faster than through hole.   Just because you guys are afraid of it or dont have the right tools does not mean the old clunky TH is good.

get off your butts and buy a set of hot tweesers and a real soldering station and SMT becomes easier than TH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can solder smt faster than through hole.   Just because you guys are afraid of it or dont have the right tools does not mean the old clunky TH is good.</p>
<p>get off your butts and buy a set of hot tweesers and a real soldering station and SMT becomes easier than TH.</p>
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		<title>By: ragnar</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-68812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ragnar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for keeping up the good &#039;Ol Through-hole. With circuits like this it&#039;s just a Pita to waste time on smd, when you could have soldered it in half the time and without magnifying glasses...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for keeping up the good &#8216;Ol Through-hole. With circuits like this it&#8217;s just a Pita to waste time on smd, when you could have soldered it in half the time and without magnifying glasses&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: obnauticus</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-68779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[obnauticus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya, I think I will wait until Hack A day releases v2 and someone makes an SMT kit for it. I have no means of creating PCB&#039;s at the moment...so it&#039;s much easier and cheaper to just buy a kit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, I think I will wait until Hack A day releases v2 and someone makes an SMT kit for it. I have no means of creating PCB&#8217;s at the moment&#8230;so it&#8217;s much easier and cheaper to just buy a kit.</p>
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		<title>By: spiffed</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-68766</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spiffed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The original (v0) design was PTH, but v1 added several features.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original (v0) design was PTH, but v1 added several features.</p>
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		<title>By: obnauticus</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/03/31/through-hole-bus-pirate-kit-from-fundamental-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-68765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[obnauticus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;so we&#039;ve taken their design and converted to entirely through hole parts with plenty of working space&quot;
...
Wasn&#039;t the original just a thru-hole?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;so we&#8217;ve taken their design and converted to entirely through hole parts with plenty of working space&#8221;<br />
&#8230;<br />
Wasn&#8217;t the original just a thru-hole?</p>
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