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	<title>Comments on: Plant fasting: robotic gardening</title>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-72457</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 06:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When it flashes at the very end just before she says &quot;it is so cute&quot; what is it doing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it flashes at the very end just before she says &#8220;it is so cute&#8221; what is it doing?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd S.</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-72088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@pt: i have never used digg, and i have read slashdot a few times at most, i have never registered there.  so i am really not familiar w/ those sites.  however, thanks for your feedback, will keep it in mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pt: i have never used digg, and i have read slashdot a few times at most, i have never registered there.  so i am really not familiar w/ those sites.  however, thanks for your feedback, will keep it in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: pt</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-72084</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@todd s. i don&#039;t think it&#039;s possible to offend ladyada or myself. 

i&#039;m sure the commenters on digg and slashdot &quot;love&quot; their sites too, but that doesn&#039;t mean the comments are constructive or in any way encouraging.

so consider my comments feedback on your feedback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@todd s. i don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s possible to offend ladyada or myself. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m sure the commenters on digg and slashdot &#8220;love&#8221; their sites too, but that doesn&#8217;t mean the comments are constructive or in any way encouraging.</p>
<p>so consider my comments feedback on your feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: sol</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-72080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wonderful project. It never ceases to amaze me what people complain about in these forums. get your snarky comments out of the way on fark or someplace and then come back here for actual discussion, you naysayers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wonderful project. It never ceases to amaze me what people complain about in these forums. get your snarky comments out of the way on fark or someplace and then come back here for actual discussion, you naysayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd S.</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-72055</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@pt, i am sorry, it seems i have offended you and ladyada.  however, i was being the devil&#039;s advocate in that, yes, the site may have matured since it was started, and that people do and will expect more.  if the site did not mature, there would be no progress.  also, you chose to disregard my direct and indirect compliments for hackaday - i mentioned that i love the site.  it is permanently bookmarked on my iGoogle home page, and i have learned a tremendous amount from it.  if not else, it gives a person confidence that anyone can build sophisticated applications.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pt, i am sorry, it seems i have offended you and ladyada.  however, i was being the devil&#8217;s advocate in that, yes, the site may have matured since it was started, and that people do and will expect more.  if the site did not mature, there would be no progress.  also, you chose to disregard my direct and indirect compliments for hackaday &#8211; i mentioned that i love the site.  it is permanently bookmarked on my iGoogle home page, and i have learned a tremendous amount from it.  if not else, it gives a person confidence that anyone can build sophisticated applications.</p>
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		<title>By: Bushi</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-72028</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bushi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I knew just from watching the video that was Ladyada! I found nothing wrong with the questions asked in the video. It&#039;s pretty stupid that there is some serious dialogue going on here and yet people are still posting comments making fun of the speaker in the video.

While I don&#039;t agree with the people making comments about the people in the video, I can see where they are coming from. As you said he didn&#039;t know he was being filmed so that could explain the sparse details. I&#039;m sure if he did a formal presentation it would be much better.

I for one would like to apologize on behalf of hackaday commentors. Recently they have gone downhill but I hope great minds do not stray away from the site because of the opinion of a small few. There are many more, less vocal people, that enjoy the site and it&#039;s contributors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew just from watching the video that was Ladyada! I found nothing wrong with the questions asked in the video. It&#8217;s pretty stupid that there is some serious dialogue going on here and yet people are still posting comments making fun of the speaker in the video.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t agree with the people making comments about the people in the video, I can see where they are coming from. As you said he didn&#8217;t know he was being filmed so that could explain the sparse details. I&#8217;m sure if he did a formal presentation it would be much better.</p>
<p>I for one would like to apologize on behalf of hackaday commentors. Recently they have gone downhill but I hope great minds do not stray away from the site because of the opinion of a small few. There are many more, less vocal people, that enjoy the site and it&#8217;s contributors.</p>
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		<title>By: pt</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-72027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@todd - in your own words...

&quot;the woman asking the questions is ANNOYING!&quot; 

ladyada, engineer...

&quot;She asks “is it automated?” - now, what kind of question is that? She’s the reason I did not watch the entire video.&quot;

perhaps the most asked question while i was there filming it as others stopped in...

but just to recap, you didn&#039;t watch the video, follow the links or do anything at all to better understand the project yet you demand the hackaday team to only have polished projects here? perhaps things changed from when i started the site, but the point is to -not- have polished projects... for that, check out the iphone or the latest gadget from sony, those are pretty polished... &quot;fair game&quot; indeed...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@todd &#8211; in your own words&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;the woman asking the questions is ANNOYING!&#8221; </p>
<p>ladyada, engineer&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;She asks “is it automated?” &#8211; now, what kind of question is that? She’s the reason I did not watch the entire video.&#8221;</p>
<p>perhaps the most asked question while i was there filming it as others stopped in&#8230;</p>
<p>but just to recap, you didn&#8217;t watch the video, follow the links or do anything at all to better understand the project yet you demand the hackaday team to only have polished projects here? perhaps things changed from when i started the site, but the point is to -not- have polished projects&#8230; for that, check out the iphone or the latest gadget from sony, those are pretty polished&#8230; &#8220;fair game&#8221; indeed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jimslippper</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-72026</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimslippper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[aaaaaaaauummmmmmmm.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aaaaaaaauummmmmmmm&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd S.</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-71993</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, I *LOVE* Hackaday, and the way I see the site is that it&#039;s a competitive medium where projects are striving to be announced.  That&#039;s why I had problems with the presentation - I simply expect more from a project featured at Hackaday and expect the site staff to filter out work that is not yet ready for prime time, or get them to improve their presentations so that they won&#039;t be ridiculed by a sharp audience who don&#039;t tolerate the less than polished projects.

I think the regulars here feel that any project featured here is fair game for critique in both technical aspects and for PRESENTATION.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I *LOVE* Hackaday, and the way I see the site is that it&#8217;s a competitive medium where projects are striving to be announced.  That&#8217;s why I had problems with the presentation &#8211; I simply expect more from a project featured at Hackaday and expect the site staff to filter out work that is not yet ready for prime time, or get them to improve their presentations so that they won&#8217;t be ridiculed by a sharp audience who don&#8217;t tolerate the less than polished projects.</p>
<p>I think the regulars here feel that any project featured here is fair game for critique in both technical aspects and for PRESENTATION.</p>
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		<title>By: pt</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-71986</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[when you call someone a &quot;chick&quot; or &quot;annoying&quot; or go for personal attacks you&#039;re really damaging the community here - everyone potentially has access to some very talented engineers and hackers, but i don&#039;t think you&#039;re going to see them comment on hackaday or enjoy having their projects featured any longer.

if i were a moderator i&#039;d jump in and help make the conversations more constructive - it&#039;s a shame, i started this site and the comments are comparable to digg and slashdot. so for the most part, this all pretty toxic, sad and for the regulars here that have brought the site down... it&#039;s never too late to change for the better, but it will take a lot of work if you&#039;d like to make the site the best it could be.

disclosure: i shot the 90 second video so it would fit on flickr - the photos and the post on adafruit talk more about the project. peter will have some other items including longer videos soon too. i was the founder of hackaday - now senior editor at MAKE and work with adafruit (ladyada) on projects...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you call someone a &#8220;chick&#8221; or &#8220;annoying&#8221; or go for personal attacks you&#8217;re really damaging the community here &#8211; everyone potentially has access to some very talented engineers and hackers, but i don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re going to see them comment on hackaday or enjoy having their projects featured any longer.</p>
<p>if i were a moderator i&#8217;d jump in and help make the conversations more constructive &#8211; it&#8217;s a shame, i started this site and the comments are comparable to digg and slashdot. so for the most part, this all pretty toxic, sad and for the regulars here that have brought the site down&#8230; it&#8217;s never too late to change for the better, but it will take a lot of work if you&#8217;d like to make the site the best it could be.</p>
<p>disclosure: i shot the 90 second video so it would fit on flickr &#8211; the photos and the post on adafruit talk more about the project. peter will have some other items including longer videos soon too. i was the founder of hackaday &#8211; now senior editor at MAKE and work with adafruit (ladyada) on projects&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Concino</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-71982</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and she says &quot;It&#039;s cute!&quot; :)

Despite the annoying questions and comments of the chick, this is the most useless demo I&#039;ve ever seen. It does not show what the robot does. He goes &quot;Yeah we have relays, arduino, 24V relays here, some more stuff here&quot; 
Dude we know you have relays, controllers, actuators, what does the damn thing do man?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and she says &#8220;It&#8217;s cute!&#8221; :)</p>
<p>Despite the annoying questions and comments of the chick, this is the most useless demo I&#8217;ve ever seen. It does not show what the robot does. He goes &#8220;Yeah we have relays, arduino, 24V relays here, some more stuff here&#8221;<br />
Dude we know you have relays, controllers, actuators, what does the damn thing do man?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-71980</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chemik, I&#039;m right there with you.

             &quot;ummmm&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chemik, I&#8217;m right there with you.</p>
<p>             &#8220;ummmm&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ladyada</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-71970</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ladyada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i talked to peter for about an hour about his system so i understand it pretty well. its the most advanced and well-made DIY robot i&#039;ve ever seen (second to Absolutemachines). the video was just a 90 second clip phil shot while i was talking to peter, it wasnt staged or prepped and we didnt even know it was being filmed.

so if someone here had a technical question, id be able answer it. you could even email peter and i&#039;m sure he&#039;d be happy to share how he built a 10x2&#039; steel xy gantry using bike chain, laser-cut MDF, windshieldwiper motors and trashfound parts.

but teasing peter because he&#039;s a shy (but brilliant!) roboticist is really immature and i&#039;m really disappointed in both hack-a-day and the site moderators. whats next? making fun of people because of the way they look? stop pissing on everything, and start asking detailed technical questions. you&#039;ll find people more willing to share what they know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i talked to peter for about an hour about his system so i understand it pretty well. its the most advanced and well-made DIY robot i&#8217;ve ever seen (second to Absolutemachines). the video was just a 90 second clip phil shot while i was talking to peter, it wasnt staged or prepped and we didnt even know it was being filmed.</p>
<p>so if someone here had a technical question, id be able answer it. you could even email peter and i&#8217;m sure he&#8217;d be happy to share how he built a 10&#215;2&#8242; steel xy gantry using bike chain, laser-cut MDF, windshieldwiper motors and trashfound parts.</p>
<p>but teasing peter because he&#8217;s a shy (but brilliant!) roboticist is really immature and i&#8217;m really disappointed in both hack-a-day and the site moderators. whats next? making fun of people because of the way they look? stop pissing on everything, and start asking detailed technical questions. you&#8217;ll find people more willing to share what they know.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd S.</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-71964</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good one strider_mt2k!!!  I completely missed the Silent Running connection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one strider_mt2k!!!  I completely missed the Silent Running connection.</p>
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		<title>By: roparom</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/04/27/plant-fasting/comment-page-1/#comment-71961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roparom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[anybody else thing the guy in this video sounds a lot like robert downey jr?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anybody else thing the guy in this video sounds a lot like robert downey jr?</p>
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