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	<title>Comments on: Palm Pre iPod spoofing confirmed</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-437690</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 05:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[could this mean that somone may be able to give the touchpad this feature and possibly allow for this device to be formated and have ios installed? If a hack could be made to trick itunes to think an iPad was connected then all you wound need is an ios port with touchpad hardware support. I may be wrong outfit seems doable?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could this mean that somone may be able to give the touchpad this feature and possibly allow for this device to be formated and have ios installed? If a hack could be made to trick itunes to think an iPad was connected then all you wound need is an ios port with touchpad hardware support. I may be wrong outfit seems doable?</p>
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		<title>By: unsecured wifi</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-119956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[unsecured wifi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for this im adding this blog to my twitter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this im adding this blog to my twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: coolfx35</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-78032</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[coolfx35]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My name is Brian, and I just got my Pre on Saturday by a stroke of sheer luck...  They &quot;Found&quot; 10 extra units in the back room when everywhere else was sold out. 

I LOVE this phone, but I&#039;m getting a little tired of hearing about how much better the iPhone is by Apple fans who haven&#039;t even touched the Pre. 

Yes, the iPhone is nice and all that, but come on..  let us enjoy our phones in peace.  There&#039;s no need to tell us that our phone sucks when we just laid 3-400 bucks down on the counter for it.

I hang out at http://www.PalmPreForum.org a site made for all Palm Pre owners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Brian, and I just got my Pre on Saturday by a stroke of sheer luck&#8230;  They &#8220;Found&#8221; 10 extra units in the back room when everywhere else was sold out. </p>
<p>I LOVE this phone, but I&#8217;m getting a little tired of hearing about how much better the iPhone is by Apple fans who haven&#8217;t even touched the Pre. </p>
<p>Yes, the iPhone is nice and all that, but come on..  let us enjoy our phones in peace.  There&#8217;s no need to tell us that our phone sucks when we just laid 3-400 bucks down on the counter for it.</p>
<p>I hang out at <a href="http://www.PalmPreForum.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.PalmPreForum.org</a> a site made for all Palm Pre owners.</p>
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		<title>By: pb is an idiot</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77622</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pb is an idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pierce Brosnan you are an IDIOT.  PalmOS was developed for PDA devices.  Then when cellphones started being integrated into PDA&#039;s there was a limitation on what could be done.  The only thing they could do was develop an OS specifically for a Phone with PDA second in mind instead of vise versa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pierce Brosnan you are an IDIOT.  PalmOS was developed for PDA devices.  Then when cellphones started being integrated into PDA&#8217;s there was a limitation on what could be done.  The only thing they could do was develop an OS specifically for a Phone with PDA second in mind instead of vise versa.</p>
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		<title>By: holy-terrorist</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77455</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[holy-terrorist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Me name is
*=* holy-terrorist *=*
the famoux hacker *=* hehehehe]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me name is<br />
*=* holy-terrorist *=*<br />
the famoux hacker *=* hehehehe</p>
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		<title>By: holy-terrorist</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77454</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[holy-terrorist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mm is script code C++, and i dpnt know english, is used for what *=*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mm is script code C++, and i dpnt know english, is used for what *=*</p>
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		<title>By: apu</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[apu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a bit like when an Apple computer joins a Windows network and reports its OS as &quot;Windows NT 4.9 Server&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a bit like when an Apple computer joins a Windows network and reports its OS as &#8220;Windows NT 4.9 Server&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I were apple, i&#039;d let it continue that way. Then when it messes up, apple doesn&#039;t have to employ the people to take the heat from frustrated customers :)

If the company wants offical support, then let them pay apple for the deal. otherwise i think getting at it any way you can should be kosher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were apple, i&#8217;d let it continue that way. Then when it messes up, apple doesn&#8217;t have to employ the people to take the heat from frustrated customers :)</p>
<p>If the company wants offical support, then let them pay apple for the deal. otherwise i think getting at it any way you can should be kosher.</p>
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		<title>By: Wwhat</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77421</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wwhat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[o, my big smile smiley didn&#039;t survive the lowercase treatment of course :/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>o, my big smile smiley didn&#8217;t survive the lowercase treatment of course :/</p>
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		<title>By: Wwhat</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77420</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wwhat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Palm can say that the apple ads encourages you to call yourself an apple! :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palm can say that the apple ads encourages you to call yourself an apple! :D</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of good and thoughtful comments.

Let the lawsuits begin!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of good and thoughtful comments.</p>
<p>Let the lawsuits begin!</p>
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		<title>By: nave.notnilc</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nave.notnilc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with mark here, I don&#039;t see how Palm thought they could get away with this.  they knew that Apple would do anything to kill their support for iTunes, and doing something illegal is just giving fodder to Apple&#039;s lawyers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with mark here, I don&#8217;t see how Palm thought they could get away with this.  they knew that Apple would do anything to kill their support for iTunes, and doing something illegal is just giving fodder to Apple&#8217;s lawyers</p>
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		<title>By: Wwhat</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wwhat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is under circumstances illegal to wilfully bypass security to gain access without permission, so in that sense a lawyer with the gift of gab could sell it as illegal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is under circumstances illegal to wilfully bypass security to gain access without permission, so in that sense a lawyer with the gift of gab could sell it as illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: lchurch2</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lchurch2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a version of ptunes for my Palm Tungstun E2 that Syncs with Itunes and Itunes identifies it as a first generation Ipod.   hmmmmm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a version of ptunes for my Palm Tungstun E2 that Syncs with Itunes and Itunes identifies it as a first generation Ipod.   hmmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: doomstalk</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/palm-pre-ipod-spoofing-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-77369</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[doomstalk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[whengreg: That&#039;s the Sega Genesis/Megadrive you&#039;re thinking of. It was slightly different there, since Sega&#039;s lockout code was literally &quot;S E G A&quot;, which they used as the basis for a copyright complaint ( http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Sega_v._Accolade)against Accolade (they lost). They added the &quot;Produced under license from...&quot; message to later revisions of the firmware, which was upheld as valid. The issue with the NES was much more clear cut. The American/European versions of the Famicom contained a lockout chip called 10NES ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10NES ) to prevent unauthorized software. Tengen copied its code in its entirety, and were sued for copyright infringement as a result. Since they copied non-functional portions of the 10NES code, they lost a copyright infringement suit brought by Nintendo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whengreg: That&#8217;s the Sega Genesis/Megadrive you&#8217;re thinking of. It was slightly different there, since Sega&#8217;s lockout code was literally &#8220;S E G A&#8221;, which they used as the basis for a copyright complaint ( <a href="http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Sega_v._Accolade" rel="nofollow">http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Sega_v._Accolade</a>)against Accolade (they lost). They added the &#8220;Produced under license from&#8230;&#8221; message to later revisions of the firmware, which was upheld as valid. The issue with the NES was much more clear cut. The American/European versions of the Famicom contained a lockout chip called 10NES ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10NES" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10NES</a> ) to prevent unauthorized software. Tengen copied its code in its entirety, and were sued for copyright infringement as a result. Since they copied non-functional portions of the 10NES code, they lost a copyright infringement suit brought by Nintendo.</p>
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