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		<title>By: andre</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/phototransistor-multitouch-with-a-twist/comment-page-1/#comment-77452</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hmm.. maybe use the SMD phototransistors from smashed road light PCBs (the little squre transistor based PCB)  ... i have a load someplace, can i find them maybe and try it?

these can be purchased from various suppliers, and are often used on laser printers etc as rotary sensors.
-A]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm.. maybe use the SMD phototransistors from smashed road light PCBs (the little squre transistor based PCB)  &#8230; i have a load someplace, can i find them maybe and try it?</p>
<p>these can be purchased from various suppliers, and are often used on laser printers etc as rotary sensors.<br />
-A</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi(I&#039;m the one that built this)

36chambers: Yes, it could be used for both of those things.  Its probably not fast enough at the moment to be used for musical composition, but it could certainly work for 3d imaging.  Albeit this one wouldn&#039;t work very well, it doesn&#039;t have a high enough resolution, like you said.

Darkfader, Ciberwizz:  No, this one is not really multi-touch.  The purpose of this was to test a bunch of different phototransistors to see which one worked best for my purposes.  I am currently waiting on BatchPCB to send me my circuit board so I can begin work on a larger one.  I have also tried using lasers instead of LEDs(so its an LLP effect instead of a DI effect).  That works really well, but not so much for this specific example because the rows are spaced so far apart.

Thanks everyone!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi(I&#8217;m the one that built this)</p>
<p>36chambers: Yes, it could be used for both of those things.  Its probably not fast enough at the moment to be used for musical composition, but it could certainly work for 3d imaging.  Albeit this one wouldn&#8217;t work very well, it doesn&#8217;t have a high enough resolution, like you said.</p>
<p>Darkfader, Ciberwizz:  No, this one is not really multi-touch.  The purpose of this was to test a bunch of different phototransistors to see which one worked best for my purposes.  I am currently waiting on BatchPCB to send me my circuit board so I can begin work on a larger one.  I have also tried using lasers instead of LEDs(so its an LLP effect instead of a DI effect).  That works really well, but not so much for this specific example because the rows are spaced so far apart.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: CiberWizZ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CiberWizZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imagine this on the floor with an holografic image on top, you could interact in so many ways!!!

Making Virtual sculptors :D 

awesome really :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine this on the floor with an holografic image on top, you could interact in so many ways!!!</p>
<p>Making Virtual sculptors :D </p>
<p>awesome really :D</p>
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		<title>By: DarkFader</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/phototransistor-multitouch-with-a-twist/comment-page-1/#comment-77354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DarkFader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[combobreaker!
I&#039;m quite sure this isn&#039;t touch though. Also, despite being sensitive, it&#039;s not accurate enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>combobreaker!<br />
I&#8217;m quite sure this isn&#8217;t touch though. Also, despite being sensitive, it&#8217;s not accurate enough.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not quite sure if that&#039;s really &quot;multi-touch,&quot; as I&#039;m not seeing much variation of places he&#039;s touching and places his hand is just over. That has got its uses, but probably not for multi-touch interfaces as we know it right now. Maybe putting a diffusing plastic above the sensors would make it more to what I&#039;m thinking of, only detecting the actual points you literally touch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite sure if that&#8217;s really &#8220;multi-touch,&#8221; as I&#8217;m not seeing much variation of places he&#8217;s touching and places his hand is just over. That has got its uses, but probably not for multi-touch interfaces as we know it right now. Maybe putting a diffusing plastic above the sensors would make it more to what I&#8217;m thinking of, only detecting the actual points you literally touch.</p>
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		<title>By: jproach</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/06/04/phototransistor-multitouch-with-a-twist/comment-page-1/#comment-77320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jproach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[adam: http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/

It looks like an advantage of the phototransistors over LEDs is much more usable range (without having to amplify the signal, etc.).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adam: <a href="http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/" rel="nofollow">http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/</a></p>
<p>It looks like an advantage of the phototransistors over LEDs is much more usable range (without having to amplify the signal, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Ziegler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Ziegler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/2/

http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/

-z]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/2/" rel="nofollow">http://hackaday.com/2006/02/21/low-cost-sensing-and-communication-with-an-led/2/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/" rel="nofollow">http://hackaday.com/2007/12/16/diy-led-multi-touch-panel/</a></p>
<p>-z</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Ziegler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Ziegler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wasn&#039;t something similar done with just LEDs awhile back.  Details are sketchy... but the LEDs ran at a frequency so that in the off state they could be used to sense light from surrounding LEDs that were on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t something similar done with just LEDs awhile back.  Details are sketchy&#8230; but the LEDs ran at a frequency so that in the off state they could be used to sense light from surrounding LEDs that were on.</p>
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		<title>By: 36chambers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[36chambers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good.

My 1st thought for application would be some type of air piano/synthesizer (musical interface). You could also use it to control the tilting of a plane, ie: Mercury Meltdown for wii

I may be wrong, but couldn&#039;t this also be used as a sort of 3d imaging? Albeit the resolution is dependent of the amount and the size of the ptrans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good.</p>
<p>My 1st thought for application would be some type of air piano/synthesizer (musical interface). You could also use it to control the tilting of a plane, ie: Mercury Meltdown for wii</p>
<p>I may be wrong, but couldn&#8217;t this also be used as a sort of 3d imaging? Albeit the resolution is dependent of the amount and the size of the ptrans.</p>
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