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		<title>By: or_muddslinger</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-99502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[or_muddslinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool project.. Think I might make some of these for my cat to chase around the house.... lol...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool project.. Think I might make some of these for my cat to chase around the house&#8230;. lol&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tane</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80624</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is very similar to the slashdot story today on an intravenous magnetically controlled/powered robot. (News article http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/149402,robot-invented-to-crawl-through-veins.aspx and /. story http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/07/07/0012256/Robot-Invented-To-Crawl-Through-Veins?art_pos=3 ) At least this one has a moving gripper and some form of functionality - and it&#039;s just one guy building it compared to an Israeli university.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very similar to the slashdot story today on an intravenous magnetically controlled/powered robot. (News article <a href="http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/149402,robot-invented-to-crawl-through-veins.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/149402,robot-invented-to-crawl-through-veins.aspx</a> and /. story <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/07/07/0012256/Robot-Invented-To-Crawl-Through-Veins?art_pos=3" rel="nofollow">http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/07/07/0012256/Robot-Invented-To-Crawl-Through-Veins?art_pos=3</a> ) At least this one has a moving gripper and some form of functionality &#8211; and it&#8217;s just one guy building it compared to an Israeli university.</p>
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		<title>By: colecoman1982</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80530</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[colecoman1982]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quote:

&quot;Get over yourself and show us something worthy and we’ll pay attention.&quot;

@stunmonkey: Funny, it seems like he&#039;s already got plenty of your attention.  If he didn&#039;t then we wouldn&#039;t have to listen to your whining.  

This isn&#039;t a serious research site, this is a hobbyist site.  You talk like we&#039;re discussing serious research here.  If you were a serious researcher, you&#039;d be working at an engineering company or as a researcher at a college and wouldn&#039;t be trying to make this site into the serious research site you seem to want it to be.

You don&#039;t even seem to understand the premise of &quot;hacking&quot;, it&#039;s not the hyper-narrowly defined term you seem to want to force on everyone else.  &quot;Hacking&quot; can be just as much about aesthetics as it is about functionality which flies in the face of your pissing in steam punk.  

Face it, this isn&#039;t &quot;The Stunmonkey Page&quot;, this is Hackaday.  Like every publication that isn&#039;t custom written for a target audience of one, you&#039;re guaranteed to find articles on subjects you aren&#039;t interested in.  Most normal, well adjusted, people just ignore the articles that don&#039;t interest them rather than whine, incessantly.

As for this article, I don&#039;t know if I agree with it being called a bot, much less the smallest one in the world, but I do find it, at least, worthy of being posted here.  Has similar work been done?  Sure, but this also has the advantage of showing how it can be done by a hobbyist rather than the commercial/research efforts of the past.  Personally, I&#039;d refer to it more as a remote manipulator than as a bot but the term &quot;bot&quot; is pretty nebulous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Get over yourself and show us something worthy and we’ll pay attention.&#8221;</p>
<p>@stunmonkey: Funny, it seems like he&#8217;s already got plenty of your attention.  If he didn&#8217;t then we wouldn&#8217;t have to listen to your whining.  </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a serious research site, this is a hobbyist site.  You talk like we&#8217;re discussing serious research here.  If you were a serious researcher, you&#8217;d be working at an engineering company or as a researcher at a college and wouldn&#8217;t be trying to make this site into the serious research site you seem to want it to be.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t even seem to understand the premise of &#8220;hacking&#8221;, it&#8217;s not the hyper-narrowly defined term you seem to want to force on everyone else.  &#8220;Hacking&#8221; can be just as much about aesthetics as it is about functionality which flies in the face of your pissing in steam punk.  </p>
<p>Face it, this isn&#8217;t &#8220;The Stunmonkey Page&#8221;, this is Hackaday.  Like every publication that isn&#8217;t custom written for a target audience of one, you&#8217;re guaranteed to find articles on subjects you aren&#8217;t interested in.  Most normal, well adjusted, people just ignore the articles that don&#8217;t interest them rather than whine, incessantly.</p>
<p>As for this article, I don&#8217;t know if I agree with it being called a bot, much less the smallest one in the world, but I do find it, at least, worthy of being posted here.  Has similar work been done?  Sure, but this also has the advantage of showing how it can be done by a hobbyist rather than the commercial/research efforts of the past.  Personally, I&#8217;d refer to it more as a remote manipulator than as a bot but the term &#8220;bot&#8221; is pretty nebulous.</p>
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		<title>By: tjhooker</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80450</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tjhooker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@stunmonkey: superb retort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@stunmonkey: superb retort.</p>
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		<title>By: razorconcepts</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[razorconcepts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While not a new idea I think this has intrigued many people about magnetic control. To some monkeys it may be a POC to you but not everyone else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While not a new idea I think this has intrigued many people about magnetic control. To some monkeys it may be a POC to you but not everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: F7</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80399</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too much bashing on this page, the bot has good function.

 As soon as I saw the video I was thinking how useful something derived from this might be for placing smd parts on tinned pads. Sure, I could do the same thing with tweezers, but this is cuter and has potential to run autonomously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too much bashing on this page, the bot has good function.</p>
<p> As soon as I saw the video I was thinking how useful something derived from this might be for placing smd parts on tinned pads. Sure, I could do the same thing with tweezers, but this is cuter and has potential to run autonomously.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhima</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80363</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bhima]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of a smaller and less functional ant, from MIT.  You can see them at the retired robots page.

http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/ants/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of a smaller and less functional ant, from MIT.  You can see them at the retired robots page.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/ants/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/ants/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stunmonkey</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80361</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stunmonkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It is narrow minded thinking and tunnel vision that keeps art and science from advancing. If you limit your self to the ideas and techniques of the past, you will severely limit everyones future.&quot;

First; This IS an idea and technique from the past. 

Secondly; If you are openly inclusive of every idea without regard to merit or substance, it is just as limiting as tunnel vision. If you don&#039;t parse crap than thats all you will eventually have - look at steampunk.

Third; Every third-rate hack and crank falls back on the old saw that everyone is simply too narrow-minded to see their greatness. Get over yourself and show us something worthy and we&#039;ll pay attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is narrow minded thinking and tunnel vision that keeps art and science from advancing. If you limit your self to the ideas and techniques of the past, you will severely limit everyones future.&#8221;</p>
<p>First; This IS an idea and technique from the past. </p>
<p>Secondly; If you are openly inclusive of every idea without regard to merit or substance, it is just as limiting as tunnel vision. If you don&#8217;t parse crap than thats all you will eventually have &#8211; look at steampunk.</p>
<p>Third; Every third-rate hack and crank falls back on the old saw that everyone is simply too narrow-minded to see their greatness. Get over yourself and show us something worthy and we&#8217;ll pay attention.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey77</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mikey77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As the maker of this robot, I beg to differ. If you know of a link to a smaller WHEELED ROBOT WITH A GRIPPER that can pick up things, please reveal it.

Nothing is truly autonomous. Even you and I are dependent on outside machinery and energy sources for our mobility (i.e. the earth and sun).

Moving as much as possible outside of the robot is literally out of the box thinking.
Is an industrial robot that has cables that go to an external power supply and computer controller not a robot?

By using a magnetic controller robots can, for example, operate untethered inside the human digestive track.

These techniques of magnetic control may limit the range of a robot, but for microscopic cell manipulation or medical robots that move through a human body that is not a problem. 
That is probably why there are scores of robotic researchers at dozens of universities experimenting with magnetically controlled robots of all shapes and sizes.

It is narrow minded thinking and tunnel vision that keeps art and science from advancing.

If you limit your self to the ideas and techniques of the past, you will severely limit everyone&#039;s future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the maker of this robot, I beg to differ. If you know of a link to a smaller WHEELED ROBOT WITH A GRIPPER that can pick up things, please reveal it.</p>
<p>Nothing is truly autonomous. Even you and I are dependent on outside machinery and energy sources for our mobility (i.e. the earth and sun).</p>
<p>Moving as much as possible outside of the robot is literally out of the box thinking.<br />
Is an industrial robot that has cables that go to an external power supply and computer controller not a robot?</p>
<p>By using a magnetic controller robots can, for example, operate untethered inside the human digestive track.</p>
<p>These techniques of magnetic control may limit the range of a robot, but for microscopic cell manipulation or medical robots that move through a human body that is not a problem.<br />
That is probably why there are scores of robotic researchers at dozens of universities experimenting with magnetically controlled robots of all shapes and sizes.</p>
<p>It is narrow minded thinking and tunnel vision that keeps art and science from advancing.</p>
<p>If you limit your self to the ideas and techniques of the past, you will severely limit everyone&#8217;s future.</p>
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		<title>By: Addictronics</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80325</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Addictronics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PC &gt; MAC oh wait.. wrong argument]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PC &gt; MAC oh wait.. wrong argument</p>
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		<title>By: TJHooker</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJHooker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed it is, and I didn&#039;t say it was a bot. I was just pointing out the irony.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it is, and I didn&#8217;t say it was a bot. I was just pointing out the irony.</p>
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		<title>By: calebkraft</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[calebkraft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was unique and decently done. It isn&#039;t groundbreaking or amazing, but it&#039;s definitely pretty cool. Have you ever seen a cnc rig used like this? I haven&#039;t.

Not every project can be insanely complex and advanced. We wouldn&#039;t want them to be, even if they could.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was unique and decently done. It isn&#8217;t groundbreaking or amazing, but it&#8217;s definitely pretty cool. Have you ever seen a cnc rig used like this? I haven&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Not every project can be insanely complex and advanced. We wouldn&#8217;t want them to be, even if they could.</p>
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		<title>By: RobotGuy</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80300</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RobotGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@stunmonkey

This guy actually does make robots (ICs, motors, everything).  Check his other Instructables contributions.


I think he just did this one to cater to the technologically disinclined.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@stunmonkey</p>
<p>This guy actually does make robots (ICs, motors, everything).  Check his other Instructables contributions.</p>
<p>I think he just did this one to cater to the technologically disinclined.</p>
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		<title>By: Stunmonkey</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80295</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stunmonkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neither cute, nor funny; some overinflated SOB actually takes this seriously and thinks he has created something revolutionary and world record breaking. An overinflated blog actually posts this as a hack.

 Explain the humor? Please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither cute, nor funny; some overinflated SOB actually takes this seriously and thinks he has created something revolutionary and world record breaking. An overinflated blog actually posts this as a hack.</p>
<p> Explain the humor? Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/03/tiniest-bot-sort-of-cnc-controlled/comment-page-1/#comment-80294</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@tjhooker

I think that&#039;s a dime

also, not a bot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tjhooker</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s a dime</p>
<p>also, not a bot</p>
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