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		<title>By: Oren Beck</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-83279</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oren Beck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The term applicable is contempt. Both in or for applications of our talents as hackers-and in comments on forums. The most blunt clue bat in all of existence seemingly cannot dent the impenetrable ignorance of many folks around us. 

We&#039;re supposed to be a public credit to hacking in forums like this, not a public shaming of the term hacker ok!


What am &quot;I&quot; doing posting such concepts here? Ah, I&#039;m hacking perceptions! 

we can express several of our &quot;perceptions.&quot; Ranging from &quot;Well Done!&quot; appreciation for the impressive work on this remake... Or whinging aboout the uses it&#039;s put to... Or we can perceive the bedrock truth.

that a microminature tv-b-gone is neither  inherently good or evil as an intrinsic &quot;fact&quot;

Which &quot;fact&quot; by extension then applies any differently between the micro version or to Mitch&#039;s original device incarnation?

As for the battery life issue of the micro? Simply pot one of these into a 9V battery shell with the emitter where the bottom of the battery had been-think hot melt or candle wax even... Hell, use a &quot;joule thief&quot; to snarf the last few tortured electrons from reclaimed 9v batteries &quot;not dead&quot; enough to harvest for shells&amp;clips... Oh? Tell me that last one&#039;s not a valid hack:&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term applicable is contempt. Both in or for applications of our talents as hackers-and in comments on forums. The most blunt clue bat in all of existence seemingly cannot dent the impenetrable ignorance of many folks around us. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re supposed to be a public credit to hacking in forums like this, not a public shaming of the term hacker ok!</p>
<p>What am &#8220;I&#8221; doing posting such concepts here? Ah, I&#8217;m hacking perceptions! </p>
<p>we can express several of our &#8220;perceptions.&#8221; Ranging from &#8220;Well Done!&#8221; appreciation for the impressive work on this remake&#8230; Or whinging aboout the uses it&#8217;s put to&#8230; Or we can perceive the bedrock truth.</p>
<p>that a microminature tv-b-gone is neither  inherently good or evil as an intrinsic &#8220;fact&#8221;</p>
<p>Which &#8220;fact&#8221; by extension then applies any differently between the micro version or to Mitch&#8217;s original device incarnation?</p>
<p>As for the battery life issue of the micro? Simply pot one of these into a 9V battery shell with the emitter where the bottom of the battery had been-think hot melt or candle wax even&#8230; Hell, use a &#8220;joule thief&#8221; to snarf the last few tortured electrons from reclaimed 9v batteries &#8220;not dead&#8221; enough to harvest for shells&amp;clips&#8230; Oh? Tell me that last one&#8217;s not a valid hack:&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Techie Talks</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-81749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Techie Talks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow nice info you have here.  I hope this will help a lot of people.  I will tell my friends to read this.  Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow nice info you have here.  I hope this will help a lot of people.  I will tell my friends to read this.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Chrisman</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80789</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chrisman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is so great about this version, its the same just with smd parts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so great about this version, its the same just with smd parts.</p>
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		<title>By: DeFex</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80704</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DeFex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do they make a brat b gone for movies and airplanes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do they make a brat b gone for movies and airplanes?</p>
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		<title>By: Wwhat</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wwhat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree tromoloy, it was a prank because there was a presentation, doing it when nobody is around is called &#039;pointless&#039; and a little sad.
I think the gizmodo thing was OK because it was a one time relatively unique thing, doing it again either by them or somebody else would not be funny but merely annoying.
I think gismodo getting &#039;punished&#039; with a ban was just silly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree tromoloy, it was a prank because there was a presentation, doing it when nobody is around is called &#8216;pointless&#8217; and a little sad.<br />
I think the gizmodo thing was OK because it was a one time relatively unique thing, doing it again either by them or somebody else would not be funny but merely annoying.<br />
I think gismodo getting &#8216;punished&#8217; with a ban was just silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80641</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jeremiah - you&#039;re kinda funny when you&#039;ve got a stick up your ass... lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jeremiah &#8211; you&#8217;re kinda funny when you&#8217;ve got a stick up your ass&#8230; lol</p>
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		<title>By: tromoly</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tromoly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Gizmodo did it when there was purely browsing, aka not during a presentation or anything, then it&#039;s merely a prank and is hilarious. During a key presentation, however, I do agree that it&#039;s inappropriate.

I want one of these, if anything so I can shut off the TVs at buffalo wild wings while my brothers are trying to watch the packers games, that&#039;ll teach them for not liking the Bears like their chicagoland heritage should.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Gizmodo did it when there was purely browsing, aka not during a presentation or anything, then it&#8217;s merely a prank and is hilarious. During a key presentation, however, I do agree that it&#8217;s inappropriate.</p>
<p>I want one of these, if anything so I can shut off the TVs at buffalo wild wings while my brothers are trying to watch the packers games, that&#8217;ll teach them for not liking the Bears like their chicagoland heritage should.</p>
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		<title>By: Bellerophon</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bellerophon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ jeremiah

(1) i use my tv-be-gones to turn off a doz plasmas in our empty tv lounges because that last undergraduate to leave can&#039;t be bothered to turn anything off-- gotta save the planet;

(2) and it has enhanced my love life when i give one to a syt-- much more effective than dinner and a movie.

hacking can be very sexy and is easily more attractive than spewing crap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ jeremiah</p>
<p>(1) i use my tv-be-gones to turn off a doz plasmas in our empty tv lounges because that last undergraduate to leave can&#8217;t be bothered to turn anything off&#8211; gotta save the planet;</p>
<p>(2) and it has enhanced my love life when i give one to a syt&#8211; much more effective than dinner and a movie.</p>
<p>hacking can be very sexy and is easily more attractive than spewing crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Daley</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80516</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah i&#039;ve kinda gotta agree with [threepointone] here. the folks at these conventions spend boatloads of time and money creating those presentations, and i&#039;d have to believe this could be argued as a case for vandalism. as much as i&#039;m not a huge fan of marketing folks (ask anyone in i.t. who their least favorite department is), morals and legalities come into play here. granted you&#039;re unlikely to get caught, and it sure is funny as heck to those &#039;in the know&#039;, but if it were you on stage trying to sell your idea you&#039;d be pissed. now doing this to the wife during american idol is perfectly acceptable and encouraged ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah i&#8217;ve kinda gotta agree with [threepointone] here. the folks at these conventions spend boatloads of time and money creating those presentations, and i&#8217;d have to believe this could be argued as a case for vandalism. as much as i&#8217;m not a huge fan of marketing folks (ask anyone in i.t. who their least favorite department is), morals and legalities come into play here. granted you&#8217;re unlikely to get caught, and it sure is funny as heck to those &#8216;in the know&#8217;, but if it were you on stage trying to sell your idea you&#8217;d be pissed. now doing this to the wife during american idol is perfectly acceptable and encouraged ;)</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80509</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want a car-stereo-b-gone for when I&#039;m at the gas station!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a car-stereo-b-gone for when I&#8217;m at the gas station!</p>
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		<title>By: skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skinner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Mephistopheles and others

Guys, remotes will be similar to how garage doors work today. Instead of switching DIP switches in your garage door opener to set the code (just like current universal remotes), you &#039;sync&#039; your garage door opener remote with your garage door opener.

It will work exactly the same with with televisions. A similar concept to understand is how the Wii controller and xbox 360 controller work. You have to &#039;sync&#039; the remotes with the systems. This will give the tv remotes a special key that must match the device for operation. It won&#039;t even be a hassle and universal remotes will be that much easier to program.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mephistopheles and others</p>
<p>Guys, remotes will be similar to how garage doors work today. Instead of switching DIP switches in your garage door opener to set the code (just like current universal remotes), you &#8216;sync&#8217; your garage door opener remote with your garage door opener.</p>
<p>It will work exactly the same with with televisions. A similar concept to understand is how the Wii controller and xbox 360 controller work. You have to &#8216;sync&#8217; the remotes with the systems. This will give the tv remotes a special key that must match the device for operation. It won&#8217;t even be a hassle and universal remotes will be that much easier to program.</p>
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		<title>By: threepointone</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80448</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[threepointone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[encryption is expensive. just cover the IR receiver.

honestly i think the gizmodo &quot;prank&quot; isn&#039;t really acceptable. let&#039;s just say that i come from a place where pranks are a thing, and that i&#039;ve been part of quite a number of them, and that we&#039;ve got guidelines that remind us that there&#039;s a point when a &quot;prank&quot; becomes vandalism. there might have been a way to do it right, but honestly the way they executed it would have been probably a violation of our honor code applied to pranking.

there are appropriate, amusing ways to use the tv-b-gone. but knowing how most people will handle these situations, most people will probably do something fairly malicious and not amusing to a more general audience. doing pranks right requires quite a bit of discussion and thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>encryption is expensive. just cover the IR receiver.</p>
<p>honestly i think the gizmodo &#8220;prank&#8221; isn&#8217;t really acceptable. let&#8217;s just say that i come from a place where pranks are a thing, and that i&#8217;ve been part of quite a number of them, and that we&#8217;ve got guidelines that remind us that there&#8217;s a point when a &#8220;prank&#8221; becomes vandalism. there might have been a way to do it right, but honestly the way they executed it would have been probably a violation of our honor code applied to pranking.</p>
<p>there are appropriate, amusing ways to use the tv-b-gone. but knowing how most people will handle these situations, most people will probably do something fairly malicious and not amusing to a more general audience. doing pranks right requires quite a bit of discussion and thought.</p>
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		<title>By: sol</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80442</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bob

soon enough I imagine universal remotes will have firmware that can be updated wirelessly or by usb. Encryption can be added that way and it will be no more inconvenient than the half-dozen things you probably already have that use updateable firmware.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bob</p>
<p>soon enough I imagine universal remotes will have firmware that can be updated wirelessly or by usb. Encryption can be added that way and it will be no more inconvenient than the half-dozen things you probably already have that use updateable firmware.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharky</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the best thing is what are companys going to do about it RF-remotes?too expensive, change codes?,we&#039;ll just read em off the chip&#039;s.

You can&#039;t stop us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the best thing is what are companys going to do about it RF-remotes?too expensive, change codes?,we&#8217;ll just read em off the chip&#8217;s.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t stop us.</p>
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		<title>By: Etan</title>
		<link>http://hackaday.com/2009/07/04/world-smallest-tv-b-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-80436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Etan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still want a cellphone-b-gone like what LadyAda put together...

http://www.ladyada.net/make/wavebubble/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still want a cellphone-b-gone like what LadyAda put together&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ladyada.net/make/wavebubble/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ladyada.net/make/wavebubble/</a></p>
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